3.5 Optimized Druid or Ranger

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#1

daiyouko

Oct 11, 2009 15:35:08

Alright, so my DM is starting a new campaign next week.  He has told us point blank that he's going to be doing everything in his power to kill us, and to break our characters to combat this.  I was originally going to just do a monk, but I always play them.  Therefore, I've decided to play either a Druid or a Ranger.  I'm just not sure which yet.


Now, here are the rules that he gave us:


We're starting at tenth level.


We're allowed to ignore up to a +4 Level Adjustment


We're allowed to use ANY book that we can find.


And we are given 100,000 GP for magic items.


 


Now, I've played monks for the past year, and before that clerics.  I have no idea how to optimize a ranger or a druid, and so I've come to you, the Wizards community.  Could you please help?

#2

Endarire

Oct 11, 2009 15:47:59

An optimized Druid10 is better than a Ranger10 or a Ranger multiclass.  There's even a Druid Handbook!

#3

bruceleeroy

Oct 11, 2009 15:53:58

Can you only use one race/template for that level adjustment? or can you use as many templates as you want until the LA reaches +4?


 


 

#4

daiyouko

Oct 11, 2009 16:28:28

He hasn't said specifically, but it's been accepted among the players that the +4 LA can be a combination of both an unusual race and template.

#5

daiyouko

Oct 11, 2009 16:50:59

Oh, I forgot to add.


He gave us stat scores of 18, 18, 18, 16, 16, 16

#6

felgoroth

Oct 11, 2009 16:57:59

Play a doppelganger or a satyr, you get a bonus to almost every ability.

#7

bruceleeroy

Oct 11, 2009 17:50:40

And some racial HD dragging you down like an anchor bolted to your bunghole.


 


Play a PIXIE.


  • No racial HD

  • +4 LA

  • -4 Str, +8 Dex, +6 Int, +4 Wis, +6 Cha

  • Greater Invis at will

  • DR 10/ cold iron

  • SR 15 + class level

  • some other stuff that doesn't really matter

 


if you can manage to acquire mind blank, even true seeing won't work against you. 10 levels of your favorite full caster (for eminent survivability, I prefer divine).

#8

Endarire

Oct 11, 2009 19:04:42

Because no one expects a flying invisible pixie to turn into a 6-armed dire lion with a triceratops horn and fall out of the sky, dive-bombing a target with his equally invisible dire eagle.

#9

daiyouko

Oct 11, 2009 21:16:31

I'm am amused to no end by that imagery... but i'm not sure if it's possible.  If it is... I SHALL DO IT.

#10

Endarire

Oct 11, 2009 21:32:11

Pixie Druid10
1: Improved Initiative
3: Natural Bond (Complete Adventurer)
6: Natural Spell
9: Leadership

Natural Bond treats your animal companion as 3HD higher to a max of your HD.  Get a dire eagle companion (Races of Stone 185) so you can fly.  Feed it a potion of invisibility or have someone buff it.

Before battle, Wild Shape into a dire lion. Cast master air, wings of air, girallon's blessing and charge of the triceratops on yourself. (Each is in Spell Compendium.) Persist these spells if you can, such as taking Leadership at L9 and getting an Incantatrix cohort. (See Player's Guide to Faerun for Incantatrix.)

I'm going simple for your Incantatrix cohort: Gray Elf Generalist Domain Wizard5/Incantatrix3. Get him +41 Spellcraft and he can take 10 to Persist any buff of level 5 or less. If you 'only' have +38, he can persist level 4 or less.

Alternatively, make a Hood (newer and board-screwed version). Done correctly, you can do hundreds of damage per round at level 10.  You could even have your cohort take Leadership at L6 to nab a Hood cohort-cohort.

#11

cru

Oct 12, 2009 3:38:22

Pixie is a decent flier on her own, no need for an aerial companion. I would see pixie druid rather as a master summoner, staying invisible and hidden, letting her summons to do the dirty job.

12 Str
26 Dex
18 Con
22 Int
22 Wis, +2 levels, +6 item = 30
22 Cha

AC 31: 10 + 8 (dex) + 1 (size) + 11 (monk's belt) + 1 (NA)
touch AC: 30
DR 10/cold iron
greater invisibility at will
SR 25 (15+class level)

equip:
13000 - monk's belt
36000 - periapt of wisdom+6
8000 - ring of the beast (complete champion), treat SNA as 1 level higher
43k free

feats: SF conjuration, augment summoning, flyby attack, natural spell

usual tactics:
summon something, buff summons and pet with animal growth, watch the show
consider some reserve feat to rain death from afar
cast via flyby attack, returning to a safe place (with cover) each round
wild shape is only used for utility (to get swim/burrow speed, to break through adamantine walls, etc.)

Edit: To break the game, consider druid 5/planar shepherd 5 (Faiths of Eberron)