1/2 Fey lesser Aasimar
Lesser Aasimar
Lesser Aasimar +2 Wis +2 Cha, medium, 30 ft., light (sp), paladin, humanoid (planetouched), player’s guide to faerun pg.191
Double Aura(RotD)
Details ??
Any chance that this might work, with that poster child of bad psi-design, the Divine Mind?
All those SLA's, and no Magic in the Blood feat?? There's got to be a convenient way to switch from Human to something else for that... Definitely worth 2 feats (and 23 skill points) to get like 20 more SLAs per day...
the main drawback.... i would have to change Race.... but that would not necessarily be a bad thing:
Magic in the Blood[Regional](Player's Guide to Faerûn)
Prerequisite: Dwarf (Oldonnar or Underdark ), elf (Menzoberranyr), gnome (the Great Dale, Thesk, or Underdark ), planetouched (Calimshan, Mulhorand, or Unther), or spirit folk (Ashane).
Benefit: You can use your racial spell-like abilities more often than you otherwise could. Any ability that is otherwise usable once per day is now usable three times per day.
Special: You may select this feat only as a 1st-level character. You may have only one regional feat.
Double Aura(RotD)
Details ??
Any chance that this might work, with that poster child of bad psi-design, the Divine Mind?
Double Draconic Aura[General](Dragon Magic)Prerequisite: Character level 12th, ability to project two different draconic auras.
Benefit: You can project two draconic auras simultaneously. You must activate or dismiss your draconic auras separately.
i dont think it would work for a Divine Mind... since thier Auras are not considered Draconic Auras.... but the Marshal Major Auras are considered the same as Draconic Auras .... Divine Minds are up the creek, sorry
:D
Also, Motivate dexterity of this build is awesome. Think about the initiative bonus...
:D
Half-fey can be applied to any living corporeal creature. Why could a Lesser planetouched not be a half-fey?
More Cha synergy and qualifies (probably) for Magic in the Blood, too. I like that suggestion
.Reading of the rules on draconic auras (pg 86 Dragon Magic). Major auras are not considered draconic auras but you can learn a Draconic Aura in place of a Major Aura. Relevent text bellow:
text
The marshal can learn any of the draconic auras presented here in place of a major aura. The bonus granted by a draconic Aura equals the bonus normaly granted by the marshals aura, and otherwise follows the normal rules for the marshals auras. It is also considered a draconic aura for all effects that apply to such auras, such as the Double Draconic Aura feat.
The marshal can learn any of the draconic auras presented here in place of a major aura. The bonus granted by a draconic Aura equals the bonus normaly granted by the marshals aura, and otherwise follows the normal rules for the marshals auras. It is also considered a draconic aura for all effects that apply to such auras, such as the Double Draconic Aura feat.
Edit: To obtusehobbit - I think that the Marshal's auras count as Draconic auras. I remember seeing that somewhere...
Replace :
Major Auras
Motivate Care: Bonus to Armor Class.
Resilient Troops: Bonus on all saves.
Steady Hand: Bonus on ranged attack rolls.
replace with:
Draconic Vigor
and two other Draconic Feats
i am away from books now... so i dont know what would be useful.... IIRC, one will give a boost to Speed 4x bonus= +20'
:D
I like it, but... No Iaijutsu? No Imperious Command?
i dont have access to OA anymore ..... nor "Drow of the Underdark" or "Expedition to Demonweb pits"
Iaijutsu skill would be best for an Iaijutsu Master... since the Class ability is what makes the Skill useful
if you could post the Imperious Command feat.... that would be great... i can probably fit it in
:D
As a young child .... Sir Hubert, or Hugh as his friend call him, was tired of always being the Butt of Jokes. It seemed as if he was always bringing up the rear and never appreciated for his wide outlook on life.
Dude, you're a master wordsmith.
On a related note here is what I have been playing with to try to make the marshal work. All the below assumes you can gain the Dragonblood subtype.
the easy way... spend a feat.... :
Dragontouched [General](Dragon Magic)Prerequisite: Cha 11.
You have a trace of draconic power, a result of dragons in your ancestry or a spiritual connection between you and the forces of dragon kind.
Benefit: You gain the dragonblood subtype. You gain 1 hit point, a +1 bonus on Listen, Search, and Spot checks, and a +1 bonus on saving throws against paralysis and sleep effects. In addition, you can select draconic feats as if you were a sorcerer of your character level.
works great....
If you pick up the Draconic Aura feat (text bellow) at third level you could have a minor aura, a major aura, and a draconic aura active at the same time. Since the aura gained from the feat does not dount as a marshal aura.Draconic Aura
Benefit: When you select this feat, Choose a Draconic Aura, you can project this aura as a swift action. Its benefits applies to you and to all allies within 30 ft. the bonus of your draconic aura is +1. The aura remains in effect until you dismiss it, you rendered unconsious or dead, or your activate anothe draconic aura in its place.
Special: If you are of the dragonblood subtype the bonus of your draconic aura improves with your class level. the aura grants +2 at 7th level, a +3 bonus at 14th, and +4 bonus at 20th.
You can select this feat more then once. Each time you select it, you gain the ability to project another aura of you choice (but no more then one).
Sir Hugh Jass
Dude, you're a master wordsmith.
thank you
i was wondering when someone would see that;)
:D
Who´s Sir Hugh Jass?
Say it out loud, and repeatedly, particularly if you're at work.
Say it out loud, and repeatedly, particularly if you're at work.
ask if anyone Knows him ;)
:D
the easy way... spend a feat.... :
Dragontouched [General](Dragon Magic)Prerequisite: Cha 11.
You have a trace of draconic power, a result of dragons in your ancestry or a spiritual connection between you and the forces of dragon kind.
Benefit: You gain the dragonblood subtype. You gain 1 hit point, a +1 bonus on Listen, Search, and Spot checks, and a +1 bonus on saving throws against paralysis and sleep effects. In addition, you can select draconic feats as if you were a sorcerer of your character level.
works great....
Silverbrow human might work better-- or if you're going after the Magic in the Blood feat (worthwhile), stonehunter gnome or deepwyrm half-drow. With the first, you're not losing a feat-- and the only draconic feats you're likely to pick up are the draconic auras anyway, so Dragontouched doesn't gain much.
A 20th level Marshal...definitely not something you see in these parts anymore
I second Magic in the Blood :P
So how's the Lesser Aasimar idea?
actually it is quite good .... as follows:
Lesser Aasimar +2 Wis +2 Cha, medium, 30 ft., light (sp), paladin, humanoid (planetouched), player’s guide to faerun pg.191
try this:
1/2 Fey lesser Aasimar
Marshal 20
Attributes(32pt buy):
16 Str(10 +6 Belt)
18 Dex(10 +2 Racial +6 Belt)
18 Con(14 -2 Racial +6 Belt)
26 Int(16 +4 inherent +6 Belt)
20 Wis(10 +4 Racial +6 Belt)
38 Cha(16 +6 Racial +5 levels +5 Inherent+6 Belt)
Note: would appear Visually to simply be a Human Male, with rugged good looks... due to Hat of Disguise
Bladerager Troll Combat Form (from Skin of Proteus)
34 Str(28 +6 Belt)
22 Dex(16 +6 Belt)
34 Con(28 +6 Belt)
26 Int(16 +4 inherent +6 Belt)
20 Wis(10 +4 Racial +6 Belt)
38 Cha(16 +6 Racial +5 levels +5 Inherent+6 Belt)
Bladerager Troll(Monster Manual 5) large giant, 6HD... +5 Natural Armor, 28 Str, 16 Dex, 28 Con
he maintains this form constantly with Skin of Proteus .... but appears as a Normal Human
Feats:.... remove Quickdraw
Criminal Background(Stormreach)
Magic in the Blood
Undead Empathy
True Believer(Core Greyhawk Elven Pantheon ... includes Corellon and Ehlonna)
Knowledge Devotion(complete Champion)
Combat Panache(CW)
Quick Reconoiter(CAdv)
Double Aura(RotD)
Frightful Presence(Dracominicon)
actually it is much better ..... good catch Tshern.... and it qualifies for:
Magic in the Blood[Regional](Player's Guide to Faerûn)
Prerequisite: Dwarf (Oldonnar or Underdark ), elf (Menzoberranyr), gnome (the Great Dale, Thesk, or Underdark ), planetouched (Calimshan, Mulhorand, or Unther), or spirit folk (Ashane).
Benefit: You can use your racial spell-like abilities more often than you otherwise could. Any ability that is otherwise usable once per day is now usable three times per day.
Special: You may select this feat only as a 1st-level character. You may have only one regional feat.
very nice.... adds many more uses of Spell-like abilities ... as follows:
In each case, the caster level 10th. Save DCs, where applicable, are Charisma-based (10 + spell level + 7).
Level Spell-Like Abilities Gained
1st Charm person at will, hypnotism 3/day
1st Faerie fire or glitterdust 3/day
3rd Detect law 3/day
3rd Enthrall or sleep 3/day
5th Protection from law 3/day
7th Confusion or emotion 3/day
9th Eyebite or lesser geas 3/day
11th Dominate person or hold monster 3/day
13th Mass invisibility 3/day
15th Geas/quest or mass suggestion 3/day
17th Insanity or mass charm 3/day
19th Otto's irresistible dance 3/day
:D
Now, a quick question: how are the 20 levels of Marshall better than 20 levels of some other Cha based class with the same 1/2 fey template (some examples: Sorcerer, Dragon Shaman, Dragonfire Adept, Warlock, Bard, Binder, etc)? Because, I love auras, but I don't know that its worth the full 20 levels of Marshall, even in this case.
Now it rocks MORE
.But I second the question about what makes Half-fey on a Marshall better than on a Sorceror or a Dread Necro. I guess a sorc will have more trouble witht he LA early on. Later it's irrelevant, but unlike the Marshall he'll probably have trouble even using all those SLAs every day.
I'll tell you, though, Half-fey also rocks for Necros. And now I even know how to make it better yet. (Bone creature Half-fey Lesser Aasimar DN8+ with Magic in the Blood, loses flight, unfortunately.)
Now Half-fey on a Marshall does solve one problem: The fact that he never actually gets to DO anything. I mean the Marshall is the perfect NPC or DMPC, but as a player? Put him in the back and your players are happy, and you never need to even state an action for the DMPC. But with Half-fey you can viable have him do stuff instead of just making the odd attack roll, which qualifies as a viable PC.
So yeah, the gain from Half-fey is greater on a Marshall.
But I second the question about what makes Half-fey on a Marshall better than on a Sorceror or a Dread Necro. I guess a sorc will have more trouble witht he LA early on. Later it's irrelevant, but unlike the Marshall he'll probably have trouble even using all those SLAs every day.
I'll tell you, though, Half-fey also rocks for Necros. And now I even know how to make it better yet. (Bone creature Half-fey Lesser Aasimar DN8+ with Magic in the Blood, loses flight, unfortunately.)
Now Half-fey on a Marshall does solve one problem: The fact that he never actually gets to DO anything. I mean the Marshall is the perfect NPC or DMPC, but as a player? Put him in the back and your players are happy, and you never need to even state an action for the DMPC. But with Half-fey you can viable have him do stuff instead of just making the odd attack roll, which qualifies as a viable PC.
So yeah, the gain from Half-fey is greater on a Marshall.
One could use the same racial setup on Surreal's Mashall 4 / Dragon Shaman 16 and get similar capabilities, but also have lots of healing, and the breath weapon (since its only every d4 rounds, there's still plenty of actions left in subsequent rounds to use their SLAs). Plus, you get the awesomely versatile healing capabilities. Or a Paladin. Or on a non-melee Binder (which makes them very enchanter-feeling in practice).
The "I've got more things to do than time to do them" issue is valid for casters in particular, though... I definitely conceed that point.
Having played with Binders that have the Fey Heritage line, though, these kinds of abilities definitely add a lot of diversity on a Cha-based character.
some examples
same racial setup
Marshall 2 / Paladin 2 / Dragon Shaman 16
same SLAs
Cha to damage
8d6 breath weapon
tons of auras
can heal like a mo-fo
same racial setup
Binder 11 / Apostate of the Green Lady 4 / Knight of Sacred Seal 5
same SLAs
lots of crazy Binder abilities, usable every 5 rounds
same racial setup
Sorcerer / War Weaver
focused totally on long-duration party-buffs, spell-wise
uses SLAs while in combat
same racial setup
Marshall 2 / Paladin 2 / Dragon Shaman 16
same SLAs
Cha to damage
8d6 breath weapon
tons of auras
can heal like a mo-fo
same racial setup
Binder 11 / Apostate of the Green Lady 4 / Knight of Sacred Seal 5
same SLAs
lots of crazy Binder abilities, usable every 5 rounds
same racial setup
Sorcerer / War Weaver
focused totally on long-duration party-buffs, spell-wise
uses SLAs while in combat
One could use the same racial setup on Surreal's Mashall 4 / Dragon Shaman 16 and get similar capabilities, but also have lots of healing, and the breath weapon (since its only every d4 rounds, there's still plenty of actions left in subsequent rounds to use their SLAs). Plus, you get the awesomely versatile healing capabilities. Or a Paladin. Or on a non-melee Binder (which makes them very enchanter-feeling in practice).
The "I've got more things to do than time to do them" issue is valid for casters in particular, though... I definitely conceed that point.
Having played with Binders that have the Fey Heritage line, though, these kinds of abilities definitely add a lot of diversity on a Cha-based character.some examples
same racial setup
Marshall 2 / Paladin 2 / Dragon Shaman 16
same SLAs
Cha to damage
8d6 breath weapon
tons of auras
can heal like a mo-fo
same racial setup
Binder 11 / Apostate of the Green Lady 4 / Knight of Sacred Seal 5
same SLAs
lots of crazy Binder abilities, usable every 5 rounds
same racial setup
Sorcerer / War Weaver
focused totally on long-duration party-buffs, spell-wise
uses SLAs while in combat
you can still get a breath weapon and add 1/2 Fey..... use the
Savage Progressions, Level-Adjusted Races
"Half-fey" is usually an inherited template, but it could be acquired through other means as well. Certain mortals who are obsessed with the fey study fey magic and dwell in sylvan places in hopes of gaining power, and a few actually do manage to acquire the half-fey template. Such beings can advance in the half-fey template class, just as natural-born half-fey can if they wish to develop their powers more slowly.
thus you could start out as a Dragonborn(Heart aspect) Aasimar(+2 Con,+2 Wis,+2 Cha,-2 Dex) ... and add the 1/2 Fey Template to it..... the drawback is... NO LA buyoff, since you must take the Transition Class levels to acquire the Template..... depending on what is applied first... you could start as :
Dragonborn(Heart aspect) 1/2 Fey Aasimar... if Dragonborn is added first.. then 1/2 Fey(since Dragonborn resets Racial traits to Dragon born stuff and would cause you to lose the SLAs from 1/2 Fey if it were applied first)
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:D
1/2 Fey lesser Aasimar
Feats:
Criminal Background(Stormreach)
Magic in the Blood
Undead Empathy
True Believer(Core Greyhawk Elven Pantheon ... includes Corellon and Ehlonna)
Knowledge Devotion(complete Champion)
Combat Panache(CW)
Quick Reconoiter(CAdv)
Double Aura(RotD)
Frightful Presence(Dracominicon)
what do you think about the feats.... any adjustments....
emaNsdrawkcaB suggested adding:
Imperious Command
Prerequisite: Cha 15, Intimidate 8 ranks.
Benefit: If you successfully demoralize a foe in combat, the foe cowers for 1 round and is shaken in the following round.
but what could it replace.... would it be better to leave the feats as they are
what about obtusehobbits idea:
If you pick up the Draconic Aura feat (text bellow) at third level you could have a minor aura, a major aura, and a draconic aura active at the same time. Since the aura gained from the feat does not dount as a marshal aura.
Now if you invest in another feat and gain a second draconic aura via the Draconic Aura feat and then get the Double Draconic Aura feat (text bellow) you can have a minor, major, and 2 draconic auras active.
this would require a Major feat redo... would the return be better than what the Current feats provide?
:D
:D
what about obtusehobbits idea:
If you pick up the Draconic Aura feat (text bellow) at third level you could have a minor aura, a major aura, and a draconic aura active at the same time. Since the aura gained from the feat does not dount as a marshal aura.
Now if you invest in another feat and gain a second draconic aura via the Draconic Aura feat and then get the Double Draconic Aura feat (text bellow) you can have a minor, major, and 2 draconic auras active.
this would require a Major feat redo... would the return be better than what the Current feats provide?
:D
This would only really be of use if you are dragonblooded, which with your current race would require yet another feat for Dragontouched. 2 extra auras (the best of which, in my opinion, could boost your allies' speed by 20 feet) would not be bad at all, but 4 feats is very pricey.
You could drop Quick Reconnoiter and Undead Empathy pretty easily I think-- potentially Criminal Background as well. I would say the other feat to drop would be Knowledge Devotion. While it's a nice feat most of what you bring to the party is boosting the party, if you hit 10-15% less most of the time it isn't going to do much to impact your build. If it were something that applied to the entire party, then I would definitely say keep it, but as is, it could be dropped.
Criminal Background(Stormreach)
Magic in the Blood(Regional)
Undead Empathy
True Believer(Core Greyhawk Elven Pantheon ... includes Corellon and Ehlonna)
Knowledge Devotion(complete Champion)
Combat Panache(CW)
Quick Reconoiter(CAdv)
Double Aura(RotD).... since i already have it, and it can affect Draconic Auras i have Choosen instead of Major Auras
Frightful Presence(Dracominicon)
so Drop:
Quick Reconoiter
Undead Empathy
Criminal Background
pick up:
Dragon Touched
Draconic Aura#1
Draconic Aura#2
that means he would be entirely focused on boosting the Party... he should have some abilities of his own as well
What Draconic Auras would you recomend.... from what i saw(i dont have access to the book anymore).... he could also Pick from Dragon Shaman Auras
:D
can you list any others ....
:D
using:
72000gp +1 Splitting Force Composite Longbow
24024go 4x Raptor Arrows
23000gp +1 Sacred Disarming Adamantine Halberd
+15 BAB
Full Attack:
+15 BAB +5 Insight +5 Enhancement(GMW) + 12 Str +2 Morale(Hat) +4(Aura) ...
+38/+33/+28 with Halberd..... he can Trip, Disarm easily
+40/+40/+35/+35/+30/+30 with Raptor Arrows.... damage is Great, and they are all Force Effects
thats not bad at all
and he can boost it even further with a little tweaking of his equipment :P
:D
Vigor and the one that boosts speed were all that i could remember.....
can you list any others ....
:D
Will do this evening.
thank you sir.... :D
If you have several offensive casters, Power might be good, granting aura bonus to spell resistance checks. Could save them the feats of Spell Penetration (and Greater). It's an untyped bonus, so it would stack, too. But at low levels, this one isn't worth much. Definitely better in the late game.
The Senses aura gives a bonus to initiative, which would stack with Motivate Dexterity if you really wanted to boost initiative another +4. Bonuses to Spot and Listen don't suck either.
Stamina for the bonus to Fortitude saves might be worth it if you have party members with poor Fortitude saves, or to stack with Motivate Constitution prior to a particularly Fortitude-intensive encounter.
Vigor is the definitely the number one option by far.
For the auras, I would definitely recommend the speed one assuming you have a climb, fly, or swim speed-- this might be the second aura you pick up, since you'll want the party to have appropriate magic items to take advantage of it. If you have a character focused on a particular damage type, it might almost be worth picking up the save DC boosting one. Otherwise, I would probably go with one of the skill boosts-- possibly the Bluff, Diplomacy, and Intimidate aura. If you're not taking the minor aura for Marshal that boosts spell penetration, then that one might also be good.
Dragon Shaman auras aren't available via the Draconic Aura feat-- only the auras listed in the book. Dragon Shamans and Marshals have the option of choosing a draconic aura-- the reverse isn't true.
I apologize, but I've never seen this actually stated (I've assumed its true though). Not to bring up a debate, but where is it stated?
Anyways...
Dragon Magic Auras
- Power: pick an energy type. gain an untyped bonus to DCs of the abilities that use that descriptor.
- Insight: knowledge, spellcraft, decipher script
- Power: to beat SR or psionic resistance
- Presence: bluff, diplomacy, intimidate
- Resistance: pick an energy type. get energy resistance 5 X bonus
- Resolve: concentration, saves vs. fear/paralysis/sleep
- Senses: listen, spot, initiative
- Stamina: constitution checks and fort saves
- Speed: climb, swim, fly speed = 5 X bonus
- Toughness: DR 1/magic / bonus
Auras from PHB2 (apparently debatable on whether you can take them)
- Energy Shield: deals 2 damage / bonus to enemies that hit using non-reach melee or natural attacks
- Power: melee damage 1 / bonus
- Presence: as above
- Resistance: as above
- Senses: as above
- Toughness: as above
- Vigor: fast healing 1 / bonus up to 1/2 max HP
Speed is better on a Copper Totem Dragon Shaman, I agree.
Excluding the PHB2, Senses and Toughness look the most appealing.
for youThat makes sense, I suppose. Still... I could see it going either way depending on the DM and game...
Anyways...
Dragon Magic Auras
- Power: pick an energy type. gain an untyped bonus to DCs of the abilities that use that descriptor.
- Insight: knowledge, spellcraft, decipher script
- Power: to beat SR or psionic resistance
- Presence: bluff, diplomacy, intimidate
- Resistance: pick an energy type. get energy resistance 5 X bonus
- Resolve: concentration, saves vs. fear/paralysis/sleep
- Senses: listen, spot, initiative
- Stamina: constitution checks and fort saves
- Speed: climb, swim, fly speed = 5 X bonus
- Toughness: DR 1/magic / bonus
Auras from PHB2 (apparently debatable on whether you can take them)
- Energy Shield: deals 2 damage / bonus to enemies that hit using non-reach melee or natural attacks
- Power: melee damage 1 / bonus
- Presence: as above
- Resistance: as above
- Senses: as above
- Toughness: as above
- Vigor: fast healing 1 / bonus up to 1/2 max HP
Speed is better on a Copper Totem Dragon Shaman, I agree.
Excluding the PHB2, Senses and Toughness look the most appealing.
just a quick note:
"All bonuses granted by a marshal's auras are circumstance bonuses that do not stack with each other." .... so as long as you use the Feat Draconic Aura for these, they will stack with Marshal Auras
from this list .... this is my impression:
Dragon Magic Auras
- Power: pick an energy type. gain an untyped bonus to DCs of the abilities that use that descriptor.
this will benifit a Blaster type Caster/Manifester greatly.... - Insight: knowledge, spellcraft, decipher script.....
excellent for a party with an Incantatrix(spellcraft checks), or any party member who has Knowledge Devotion - Power: to beat SR or psionic resistance
meh... if you really really need to beat SR.... fine - Presence: bluff, diplomacy, intimidate
boost to Diplomacy is always helpful... also Intimidate and bluff - Resistance: pick an energy type. get energy resistance 5 X bonus
this is a nice way to give your entire Party Energy Resistance bonus that they might not have.... but can the choosen type be changed or is it fixed when you pick this aura?... if it is variable then this is awesome - Resolve: concentration, saves vs. fear/paralysis/sleep
useful for Psionic Characters... to Refocus, also for casters making Concentration checks vs Damage or rough motion or other things - Senses: listen, spot, initiative
awesome... i love this one... boost detection and initiative...!!!!! - Stamina: constitution checks and fort saves
this looks like it would be more useful than Resolve.... especially if you have several casters in your group - Speed: climb, swim, fly speed = 5 X bonus
at higher levels .... many in the party should be flying.... so this is nice... but not as good as i hoped - Toughness: DR 1/magic / bonus
this ok.... it keeps away the low level rif-raf ...... it would be better if it were DR 1/- /bonus
if Dragon Shaman auras are permitted....then here is my impression:
Auras from PHB2 (apparently debatable on whether you can take them)
- Energy Shield: deals 2 damage / bonus to enemies that hit using non-reach melee or natural attacks
awesome..... very useful!!!!! - Power: melee damage 1 / bonus
if gotten with Feat...great, stacks with Major aura - Presence: as above
if gotten with Feat...great, stacks with Major aura - Resistance: as above
if gotten with Feat...great, stacks with Major aura - Senses: as above
if gotten with Feat...Awesome!!! , stacks with Major aura - Toughness: as above
ok.... if it will stack with Major Aura... great - Vigor: fast healing 1 / bonus up to 1/2 max HP
awesome..... very useful!!!!!
:D
- Toughness: DR 1/magic / bonus
this ok.... it keeps away the low level rif-raf ...... it would be better if it were DR 1/- /bonus
Anyways, I see people say this about DR. I think that its important to note that unless one is constantly facing Constructs, most of the damage a creature can do is from multiple natural attacks, and the DR is going to be effective against each one, ie this aura is going to block an average of 2 damage per bonus per ally. In my experience, this adds up REALLY quickly, to be around 30-60 damage per turn overall (my Binder, with just DR 10/magic from KoSS, at 15th level, was preventing that much on just himself after using full Shocktrooper in the Age of Worms adventure path, which is a pretty deadly campaign). The magic thing is pretty specific to Dragons and other magic-equipped humanoids.
Of course its campaign specific, but I'd highly recommend it for the average game.
:D
Draconic Aura
Benefit: When you select this feat, Choose a Draconic Aura (see Page 86). You can project this aura as a swift action. Its benefits applies to you and to all allies within 30 ft. the bonus of your draconic aura is +1. The aura remains in effect until you dismiss it (free action), you rendered unconscious or dead, or your activate another draconic aura in its place.
Special: If you are of the dragonblood subtype the bonus of your draconic aura improves with your class level. the aura grants +2 at 7th level, a +3 bonus at 14th, and +4 bonus at 20th.
You can select this feat more then once. Each time you select it, you gain the ability to project another aura of you choice (but no more then one).
Benefit: When you select this feat, Choose a Draconic Aura (see Page 86). You can project this aura as a swift action. Its benefits applies to you and to all allies within 30 ft. the bonus of your draconic aura is +1. The aura remains in effect until you dismiss it (free action), you rendered unconscious or dead, or your activate another draconic aura in its place.
Special: If you are of the dragonblood subtype the bonus of your draconic aura improves with your class level. the aura grants +2 at 7th level, a +3 bonus at 14th, and +4 bonus at 20th.
You can select this feat more then once. Each time you select it, you gain the ability to project another aura of you choice (but no more then one).
...stuff...
I think we're past the debate, though. I stated that I agree that the restricted position is right.
BUT, it has lots of word-lawyery behind it (you needed quite a wall of text to explain all the nuances, for example), so always ask the DM, I say, as the worst they can say is no.
I think we're past the debate, though. I stated that I agree that the restricted position is right.
BUT, it has lots of word-lawyery behind it (you needed quite a wall of text to explain all the nuances, for example), so always ask the DM, I say, as the worst they can say is no.
Sorry I was gone for the weekend and since the debate was relevant to my concept for a marshal 20 I thought I should add my two-cents.
As for the if it is word-lawyery I don't think so. It doesn't need a lot of rules text to make the argument, you can do it with half the text my above post provided, I just decided to be through. But, as you say always talk to your dm about your choice.
As for the incorporation of the Draconic Aura trick I think dropping lesser Aasimar for Stonehunter Gnome (as suggested by Balthanon) is the way to go. You lose +2 to chr, but retain magic in the blood. You gain some more Spell-like abilities and don't need too take the Dragontouched feat.
Stonehunter Gnome Dragon Magic pg 8
Same racial traits as a gnome except
Dragonblood subtype
Hunter's insight: +2 climb and Survival
No +2 saving throw against illusions, and no +1 DC to Illusions spells.
Favoured class: Ranger
Same racial traits as a gnome except
Dragonblood subtype
Hunter's insight: +2 climb and Survival
No +2 saving throw against illusions, and no +1 DC to Illusions spells.
Favoured class: Ranger
As for the incorporation of the Draconic Aura trick I think dropping lesser Aasimar for Stonehunter Gnome (as suggested by Balthanon) is the way to go. You lose +2 to chr, but retain magic in the blood. You gain some more Spell-like abilities and don't need too take the Dragontouched feat.Stonehunter Gnome Dragon Magic pg 8
Same racial traits as a gnome(-2 Str, +2 Con) except
Dragonblood subtype
Hunter's insight: +2 climb and Survival
No +2 saving throw against illusions, and no +1 DC to Illusions spells.
Favoured class: Ranger
LSD
Anyone have some good flavor to explain the backstory and personality of a half-fey dragontouched gnome who has a criminal background but aspires to help others while empathizing with undead, devoutly following Corellon, being devoted to knowledge, awakening his inner dragon and loves turning into a horrible troll while disguised as a human male?
actually i do ... will try to get it posted later ;)
:D
If you have a cleric in the party, I would say Undead Empathy could be dropped pretty easily-- and probably even if you don't. Diplomacy is already useable on intelligent undead and mindless undead tend to be much less of a threat. The attack penalty from Combat Panache is likely to be useful far more often.
thanks for responding...
Combat Panache[Tactical, Fighter](PH2 p93)req: Bluff: 8 ranks, Intimidate: 8 ranks, Perform: 8 ranks
You may use the following 3 tactical maneuvers:[indent]
Fortuitous Tumble – On the round after being struck by an opponent in melee, you may make an opposed Bluff vs. Sense Motive check as a Move Action against the opponent. If successful, you may use an Immediate Action at the start of the opponent’s next round to designate a different creature he/she threatens as the target of his/her next melee attack (even if is the opponent’s ally).
Play Dead – As an Immediate Action after taking at least 10 hp of damage from a single hit, you may “play dead” by making a successful Bluff vs. Sense Motive check. If successful, you may later rise without generating an Attack of Opportunity against that foe, who also looses his/her Dexterity bonus to AC against your next attack. Only usable once per encounter.
Sneering Glower – On the round after you do at least 1 hp of damage to an opponent, you may make an Intimidate check as a Move Action to inflict a (Charisma modifier) penalty on the opponent’s attack rolls against you for the remainder of the encounter (unless you use this ability on another foe). Creatures that are Mindless or Immune to Fear effects are immune to this ability.[/indent]
Fortuitous Tumble and Sneering Glower seem the most useful.... Sneering Glower would be more useful to the party combined with the feat Goad
Goad
Goad[General, Fighter](CAdv p109)(Mini p26)req: Charisma 13, Base Attack Bonus +1
As a Move Action, you can goad an opponent who threatens you, has line of sight on you, can hear you, and has an Intelligence of 3 or higher (Goad is mind-affecting). On the goaded opponent’s next turn, if the above still applies, it cannot make melee attacks against anyone but you (WillNeg, DC = 10+ ½ character level + Charisma modifier). The opponent may still move, cast spells, and use ranged attacks normally.
As a Move Action, you can goad an opponent who threatens you, has line of sight on you, can hear you, and has an Intelligence of 3 or higher (Goad is mind-affecting). On the goaded opponent’s next turn, if the above still applies, it cannot make melee attacks against anyone but you (WillNeg, DC = 10+ ½ character level + Charisma modifier). The opponent may still move, cast spells, and use ranged attacks normally.
Very interesting build, but how are you getting the aura's to work to a range of 100'? According to the Marshal description the aura's only extend 60'.
I've currently got a Kobold Marshal 8 that I'm trying to optimize and decide on future choices. Thanks for the mention of Undead Empathy, I might grab that since we are currently in an area swarmed with mindless undead.
Very interesting build, but how are you getting the aura's to work to a range of 100'? According to the Marshal description the aura's only extend 60'.
look at the items.... notice:
51000gp Admiral’s Bicorne: This elaborately braided headgear is made of rich blue felt, embroidered with golden thread. It often has a showy badge called a cockade, proclaiming nationality, faith, family crest, and the like. A humanoid or monstrous humanoid who dons the admiral’s bicorne gains a +5 bonus on Profession (sailor) checks and all Charisma-based checks (including Leadership) as long as it is worn. The wearer’s voice is magically amplified, so that it can be heard clearly by anyone within 100 feet; class features and effects that depend on hearing the speaker benefit from the increased range. Finally, the admiral’s bicorne grants a +2 morale bonus on attack rolls, saves, and skill checks to allies within sound of the wearer’s voice (including the wearer).Strong conjuration; CL 10th; Craft Wondrous Item, eagle’s splendor; heroism, owl’s wisdom, ventriloquism. Price 51,000 gp; Weight 1 lb.
also notice:
Activating an aura involves haranguing, ordering, directing, encouraging, cajoling, or calming allies. A marshal sizes up the enemy, allies, and the terrain, then gives allies the direction that they can use to do their best.
Unless otherwise noted, a marshal's aura affects all allies within 60 feet (including himself) who can hear the marshal. An ally must have an Intelligence score of 3 or higher and be able to understand the marshal's language to gain the bonus. A marshal's aura is dismissed if he is dazed, unconscious, stunned, paralyzed, or otherwise unable to be heard or understood by his allies.
the Aura relies on sound(Voice) to be effective... thus the Hat boosts the range to 100'
:D
look at the items.... notice:
also notice:
the Aura relies on sound(Voice) to be effective... thus the Hat boosts the range to 100'
:D
Ahh, I missed the synergy there.
Neat bit of manipulation there!
Yet another use for the Admiral's Bicorne. That item is such a steal.