Venerable Desert Kobold Sorceror
Kobold Sorceror 6 / Dracolexi 4 / Fate Spinner 1 / Dracolexi 6 / Fate Spinner 3
Templates Taken:
Feral: +10 Land Speed, +6 natural AC, 2 claw attacks 1d6, Special attacks (Improved Grab, Pounce, Rake, Rend), Ability Score adjustments, Fast Healing 5, Darkvision 120ft.
Vecna-blooded: Enigma Aura (for 1 minute creatures within 120ft intermittently forget you are there - 50% to be unable to attack the Vecna-blooded in any way, including spells & special abilities), Hidden Spell (1/day as a swift action, cause flat-footed opponents to take a -4 on saves against spells), Cloak of Mystery (All knowledge of the Vecna-blooded fades from the world, immune to all divination spells cast against or to learn information - they also learn the name and information who attempted the divination).
Both Templates LA+1 & bought off as per rules
Variants Taken:
Dragonblood Sorceror
Metamagic Specialist
Loredrake (+2 Sorceror Levels when available to be picked up)
Rites Completed
Draconic Rite of Passage
Greater Draconic Rite of passage (6th Level +1 Sorceror Level)
Feats Taken:
1. Dragonwrought
1. Draconic Heritage (Bonus)
1. Draconic Power (Flaw)
3. Draconic Reservior
6. Still Spell
8. Eschew Materials (Bonus)
9. Silent Spell
12. Draconic Breath (Acid)
15. Explosive Spell
18. Practical Metamagic - Explosive Spell
Magic Items so far:
Head: Circlet of Rapid Casting MIC 15,000gp
Face: Third Eye: Clarity 3,000gp
Throat: Periapt of the Sullen Sea 6,000gp
Shoulders: Cloak of Cha +6 with Resistance +5 61,000gp
Torso: Shirt of Wraith Stalking
Body: Robe of the Arcane Might (Evocation) 21,000 gp
Waist: Belt of Battle 12,000gp
Rings: Ring of Spellbattle 12,000gp
Rings: Ring of Arcane Might 20,000gp
Arms: Bracers of the Entangling Blast 2,000gp
Hands: Gauntlets of Ghost Fighting 4,000gp
Feet: Anklets of Translocation MIC 1,800gp
General:
Heward's Handy Haversack 2500gp
Tome of Leadership +5 137,500gp
Tomebound Eye of Boccob 7,000gp
Memento Magica (2nd Level) 6,000gp
Memento Magica (3rd Level) x2 40,500gp
Memento Magica (4th Level) x2 48,000gp
Runestaff of the Assassin 10,000gp
Runestaff of Divination 21,000gp
Runestaff of Transmutation 25,000gp
Metamagic Rod of Empower 32,500gp
Ioun Stone - Orange Prism +1 CL 30,000gp
Spellblade (PGtF - Greater Dispel Magic) 6,000gp
Scrolls:
Leomund's Tiny Hut 375 gp
Mordenkainen's Magnificent Mansion 2,275 gp
Rope Trick 150 gp
13,400gp of 540,000gp left to spend..
Others:
Permanent Create Magic Tattoo: +2 Charisma
Permanent Create Magic Tattoo: +1 Caster Level
At 20th level his Charisma will be 38 (start of 17 +5 Levels +3 Venerable +5 Tome +6 Cloak +2 Tattoo)
Caster level 25 (26 Evocation, 26 Draconic or 27 both) thus far even having dropped one spellcasting level due to PrC!
Spells Per Day:
9 / 10 / 9+1 / 9+3 / 9+2 / 9 / 8 / 8 / 8 / 6
Spells Taken:
0 Level: Caltrops, Detect Magic, Ghost Sound, Light, Mending, No Light, Prestidigitation, Read Magic, Sonic Snap
1st Level: Kelgores Fire Bolt, Magic Missile, Nerveskitter, Obscuring Mist, Ray of Enfeeblement
2nd Level: Dimension Hop, Heart of Air, Ray of Stupidity, Rope Trick, Wings of Cover
3rd Level: Battlemagic Perception, Dimension Step, Heart of Water, Mage Armor-Greater
4th Level: Flight of the Dragon, Heart of Earth, Orb of Fire, Wings of Flurry
5th Level: Cone of Cold, Flesh to Ice, Heart of Fire, Shroud of Flame
6th Level: Acid Fog, Antimagic Field, Dispel Magic-Greater
7th Level: Delayed Blast Fireball, Forcecage, Teleport-Greater
8th Level: Greater Arcane Fusion, Greater Celerity, Prismatic Wall
9th Level: Gate, Shapechange, Time Stop
Bonus Spells:
Limited Wish
1 to choose
Bonus 3 Power Words:
Power Word - Nauseate (6th level spell treated as 5th)
Power Word - Blind (7th level spell treated as 6th)
Power Word - Kill (9th level spell treated as 8th)
Dragonic Words Known:
Vor: +10 competence on Knowledge & Spellcraft checks
Ssearth: Target is healed for 10 points of damage or applies Extend feat to spell cast.
Veschik: Target regains one spell slot of the highest level of arcane spell it can and has cast spontaneously.
Valignat: Deals 5d6 points of fire damage to the target or applies Widen or Extend feat to Fire spell cast.
Abilities for this Build:
Spell Casting: without Metamagic costs on some spells due to Draconic Power Words, ability to cast without making a sound / movement or use materials, cast in complete silence or negate silence effects using the 8th level ability of Dracolexi, Bonus 3 Power Word spells also treated as one level lower for learning and casting out of spell slots.
This gives you the ability to kill opponents without making a sound or movement. If they have too many hitpoints you can hit them with a quickened CL 26 Wings of Flurry or CL 25 Empowered Orb of Fire then Power Word Kill. Use Power Word Nauseate to Disable opponents.
Thanks to all who have assisted with this build!
Archmage doesn't work because I don't want to waste three feats on it. Ultimate Magus won't work. Spellwarp Sniper is my Favourite Spellcasting PrC and I don't want to waste the feats on that either.. The feats I have taken are for flavour or fun
I would seriously consider adding/changing the following spells in your repertoire:
2nd: get Wings of Cover from Races of the Dragon, it's filled with awesomeness
4th: consider picking up Wings of Flurry from Races of the Dragon, it's quite potent when combined with the high save DC and CL boosts your character has acces too
7th: Arcane Spellsurge from Dragon Magic. This is a must have, it's silly powerful when combined correctly with metamagic.
8th: Get Greater Arcane Fusion from Complete Mage
Arcane Spellsurge+Greater Arcane fusion is arguably pretty broken. You can cast a metamagicked spell as a standard action (since it makes full round castings standard) and then cast a Greater Arcane fusion as a swift action (since it makes the standard action swift) and cast 2 more spells.
There's more spell recommendations as well as item ones I can make, I'll try to fit them in later if others don't get around to it first.
Thanks for the spell ideas Reis
Hmm..
Additionally, what good spells for the rest of my list should I have? Polymorph spells are out
1 Obscurring Mist
2 Fog Cloud
3 Stinking Cloud, Contagious Fog
4 Solid Fog
5 Cloudkill
6 Acid Fog
8 Incindiary Cloud
I took the L3-L6 options on my current Sorcerer (having never played w/ them that much before), and they absolutely freakin' rock. SR? No problem... Meanwhile, the Wizard can't land a single Disintigrate against the monsters we face every freakin' combat (ridiculous Fort saves - the save DC is 26, and he's landed one this whole campaign, and it didn't even freakin' kill the thing!). He preps like 6 every day.
Smoky mage knows best.
I also really like Plane Shift. Its offensive / utility / defensive in one spell.
:D
Dimension Hop if you're missing it.
Take four levels of Fatespinner. It's from C. Arc. You must have 5 ranks in Profession: Gambler, ten in Knowledge: Arcana, and be able to cast 4th level spells, including one Divination of 1st level or higher.
I will have a look and see how it adds to the build.. Thanks
Edit: Nice :D thanks for your help!
Cloud spells.
1 Obscurring Mist
2 Fog Cloud
3 Stinking Cloud, Contagious Fog
4 Solid Fog
5 Cloudkill
6 Acid Fog
8 Incindiary Cloud
I took the L3-L6 options on my current Sorcerer (having never played w/ them that much before), and they absolutely freakin' rock. SR? No problem... Meanwhile, the Wizard can't land a single Disintigrate against the monsters we face every freakin' combat (ridiculous Fort saves - the save DC is 26, and he's landed one this whole campaign, and it didn't even freakin' kill the thing!). He preps like 6 every day.
Smoky mage knows best.
I also really like Plane Shift. Its offensive / utility / defensive in one spell.
:D
Will look. Thanks James :D
If you don't have planeshift, you are not a main-line caster.
Dimension Hop if you're missing it.
Planeshift seems popular huh.. I've never used it. Will obviously have to have a read :D
However, I have Dimension Step as a Party Battlefield Control spell..
How does that draconic words thingamajob works? You can apply it to every spell? Is there a limit per day?
From the book
Speaking a word is a swift action that activates the word’s effect; if the word affects a particular creature, you can target any creature (including yourself) within 30 feet. A silence spell or similar effect prevents you from using Draconic words; if you are deafened, you have a 20% chance of misspeaking a Draconic word when using it (this counts as a use of the word but has no effect).
Beginning at 4th level, you can choose to incorporate a known Draconic word into the verbal component of a spontaneously cast arcane spell as you cast it (which requires no action other than the normal casting of the spell). In this case, the word takes effect at the end of the spell’s casting time, just before the spell takes effect. If the Draconic word would normally target a specific creature, it can only target a creature that is targeted by the spell, or a single creature within the area of the spell. A spell cast without a verbal component can’t have a Draconic word added to its effect.
You can use each Draconic word any number of times per day, but no more than one word can be used each round (nor can you use the same word more than once per round). No creature can be targeted by the same Draconic word twice in a 24-hour period.
If a saving throw is allowed against the power of the Draconic word, the save DC is 10 + your dracolexi level + your Cha modifier.
So you can apply them to your spells that have Verbal components as much as you want, however only one word per round.
You can only affect one target per 24 hours, but if you are Empowering (Etc) a spell with a word, then you can do this as often as you want as long as it is affecting that which is stipulated, Eg Valignat: can either empower or widen a spell but it must be of the Fire descriptor.
Any ideas for magic items?
Cloak of Cha +6 with Resistance (36000 + 25000 = 61,000g)
Circlet of Rapid Casting (MIC 15,000g)
Anklets of Translocation (MIC 1,800g)
Raiment of the Four set (MIC ~20,000g for 4 pieces)
Amulet of Con +6 (36,000g)
Lesser Rod of Empower Spell
Gloves of Forunate Striking (MIC)
Third Eye: Clarity (MIC)
After that, maybe a Runestaff or so to augement your spells known and a few Momento Magicas for 1st and 2nd level.
Also, unless you have something adjusting spell levels that I don't know of, you have Wings of Flurry as a 3rd level spell. Its 4th. And you have Draconic Breath, but no metabreath spells. Get at least 1 like Blinding Breath so you can double dip your breath weapon as a disable.
I tend to ignore them, as it leads to sillyness. Specifically, stupid ability scores. Why buy a +6 item when 6 +1 items, of different types, all unslotted, cost so much less!
And that's the least of it.
Wall of Stone/Iron/Force is also pretty useful to have around for control purposes.
Rope trick or Mordenkainen's Magnificent mansion are very nice for being able to rest in less than safe areas, although for a sorcerer you might be well advised to pick these up in scroll or wand (for the former) form.
here are some other good magic items for your character as well:
Heward's Handy Haversack (DMG)- minor bag of holding, and retrieving items is a move action. Every adventurer should have one.- 2500g
Ring of Arcane Might (Complete Arcane)- +1 caster level, enough said. -20k
will add more as I think of them.
As I mentioned about rope trick/MMM part of the trick of playing a sorcerer is knowing what spells you will need to cast often and taking those for your spells known, and keeping the spells you occasionally might need for utility or in an emergency around in scroll/wand/staff etc form.
For gear
Cloak of Cha +6 with Resistance (36000 + 25000 = 61,000g)
Circlet of Rapid Casting (MIC 15,000g)
Anklets of Translocation (MIC 1,800g)
Raiment of the Four set (MIC ~20,000g for 4 pieces)
Amulet of Con +6 (36,000g)
Lesser Rod of Empower Spell
Gloves of Forunate Striking (MIC)
Third Eye: Clarity (MIC)
After that, maybe a Runestaff or so to augement your spells known and a few Momento Magicas for 1st and 2nd level.
Also, unless you have something adjusting spell levels that I don't know of, you have Wings of Flurry as a 3rd level spell. Its 4th. And you have Draconic Breath, but no metabreath spells. Get at least 1 like Blinding Breath so you can double dip your breath weapon as a disable.
Nice ideas.. Not sure if the whole rainment is worthwhile but the Periapt of the Sullen Sea looks interesting
I thought metamagic rods would be the go.. But hadn't thought of Runestaff or ?Momento Magicas? What are these? Thanks
If you're picking up cloud spells for battlefield control I also recommend freezing fog (5th level, Spell compendium)
Wall of Stone/Iron/Force is also pretty useful to have around for control purposes.
Rope trick or Mordenkainen's Magnificent mansion are very nice for being able to rest in less than safe areas, although for a sorcerer you might be well advised to pick these up in scroll or wand (for the former) form.
here are some other good magic items for your character as well:
Heward's Handy Haversack (DMG)- minor bag of holding, and retrieving items is a move action. Every adventurer should have one.- 2500g
Ring of Arcane Might (Complete Arcane)- +1 caster level, enough said. -20k
will add more as I think of them.
As I mentioned about rope trick/MMM part of the trick of playing a sorcerer is knowing what spells you will need to cast often and taking those for your spells known, and keeping the spells you occasionally might need for utility or in an emergency around in scroll/wand/staff etc form..
Haha that's why I thought Prismatic Wall.. I was thinking of getting a Staff that allowed me to cast Wall spells rather than have them in my list
Rope trick definately in scroll version and probably Leomunds hut too.
Ring of Arcane Might (Complete Arcane).. God, how could I miss that gem?!
Thanks Reis!! :D
Dang those custom item rules.
Actually, MIC introduced rules for adding basic stats to existing magic items the occupy the same affinity slot for the price of each item seperately, instead of the DMG's 1.5x multiplier.
Since Cha and Resistance go on a cloak, and since both are basic stats, you could start with a Cloak of Resistance and add Cha, or start with a Cloak of Cha and add Resistance.
You couldn't start with a Cloak of the Bat and add Montebanke though. Basic stats only.
If you don't like that, just get a Vest of Resistance (CAdv). I didn't have anything occupying the torso slot, so it would be an idea. There are some nice torso slots, so double up if you can.
What is the definition of a basic stat, by the way?
I'm liking the way this is coming together.. Thanks for all your input guys (and girls maybe?) :D
Deflection
Natural Armor
Resistance (+all saves)
+Stats (Str, Dex, Con, Int, Wis, Cha)
The rule was invented because these are items that almost all characters need, and with the advent of a ton of new magic items in the MIC, there is too much competition for body slots. And certain classes really got the shaft. The fact that Wis and Con always occupied the neck slot ment that Monks, Clerics, and Druids couldn't get a Con bonus easily, and everyone had to choose between NA and Con if they wanted either.
EDIT:
Oh, and OP, I just noticed that you have both a Cloak of Cha +6 and an Ioun Stone. They both give Enhancement bonuses to Cha, thus wouldn't stack with each other. Thus, drop the Ioun Stone, since its more cash for less bonus.
Check out MIC. Its basically...
Deflection
Natural Armor
Resistance (+all saves)
+Stats (Str, Dex, Con, Int, Wis, Cha)
The rule was invented because these are items that almost all characters need, and with the advent of a ton of new magic items in the MIC, there is too much competition for body slots. And certain classes really got the shaft. The fact that Wis and Con always occupied the neck slot ment that Monks, Clerics, and Druids couldn't get a Con bonus easily, and everyone had to choose between NA and Con if they wanted either.
EDIT:
Oh, and OP, I just noticed that you have both a Cloak of Cha +6 and an Ioun Stone. They both give Enhancement bonuses to Cha, thus wouldn't stack with each other. Thus, drop the Ioun Stone, since its more cash for less bonus.
The Orange Prism increases caster level by one, not Cha :D
Dang those custom item rules.
I tend to ignore them, as it leads to sillyness. Specifically, stupid ability scores. Why buy a +6 item when 6 +1 items, of different types, all unslotted, cost so much less!
And that's the least of it.
What you do is make them dodge bonuses to your ability scores, since dodge bonuses stack
What you do is make them dodge bonuses to your ability scores, since dodge bonuses stack
DM: "And the Roper's Strands sap your Strength for 7 points of ability damage."
Player: "I dodge."
At 20th level his Charisma will be 36 (start of 17 +5 Levels +3 Venerable +5 Tome +6 Cloak +2 Ioun Stone)
No, this is what I was refering to with regards to the Ioun Stone. You can't have a +6 Cloak AND a +2 Ioun Stone, both are enhancement bonuses...
The Orange Ioun Stone is fine, and should stay put.
No, this is what I was refering to with regards to the Ioun Stone. You can't have a +6 Cloak AND a +2 Ioun Stone, both are enhancement bonuses...
The Orange Ioun Stone is fine, and should stay put.
Ahh.. Thank you
I had adjusted the final figure, just not removed the text.Ray Deflection (SC), Wind Wall, and Energy Immunity are probably other good spells to have in scroll/wand/staff form
DM: "And the Roper's Strands sap your Strength for 7 points of ability damage."
Player: "I dodge."
I think I can arrange this.
9th Level: Wish
You misspelled "Gate".
One ability of the Dracolexi: At 5th level, you can add any two language dependent spells from your class’s spell list to your list of spells known for that class. The spells must be of a level you are capable of casting, and the two spells must be of different levels. For example, a 5th-level sorcerer/5th-level dracolexi could add lesser geas (a 4th-level sorcerer spell) and suggestion (a 3rd-level sorcerer spell) to his list of spells known. He couldn’t learn command (since it’s a cleric spell) or mass suggestion (since it’s a 6th-level spell and beyond his ability to cast).
At 5th level Dracolexi, I will effectively be casting as a 13th level Sorceror (6 Sorceror/ 4 Dracolexi - 1st level dropped +2 Loredrake +1 Ritual) which means 6th level spells are my highest slot.
(I was thinking of dropping a level of Fatespinner in earlier so 7th level spells would be open to this - Limited Wish anyone?)
So what do you guys think I should take?
Hahaha.. So I should have Gate over Wish?
Short answer: Yes.
Long Answer: YYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One costs 5000XP, the other either 1000XP or nothing.
One can grant one wish,
the other can bring forth djinn, efreeti, balor, solar sockpuppets.
Several of them, in fact.
Well, let's see.
One costs 5000XP, the other either 1000XP or nothing.
One can grant one wish,
the other can bring forth djinn, efreeti, balor, solar sockpuppets.
Several of them, in fact.
I thought they took out wish in favor of gate in 3.5.
Oh wait, look, they did. ;)
Limited wish is definitely worth having though.
Any ideas on the bonus spells to take? Should I go Sorceror 6/ Dracolexi 4/ Fatespinner 1/ Dracolexi 5th so as to get Limited Wish (and something else)?
abusing called creatures ability to cast wish on your behalf is a great way to anger your DM and cause him to issue punitive rulings against you, but of course that never stops posters here from recommending it (RAW is all that matters amirite?)
I never recommended abusing it. Gate has serious potential side-effects both on and off the table. I just said it's probably a better spell than wish for a wide variety of reasons, such as being able to once-in-a-while duplicate wish. Remember, that these creatures are real creatures, no summoned figments, and they remember everything you made them do. Everything.
Being able to Summon a Demon or such to your side in a battle could be advantageous.
This is itemless, so definitely worth checking into.
It's... quite hard to hide from a wish.
Arguable..
Cloak of Mystery (Su):
All knowledge of the Vecna-blooded creature fades from the world. Its original name, its deeds before becoming Vecna-blooded, and so forth, disappear from memory. Only Vecna and the Vecna-blooded creature retain this knowledge. A Vecna-blooded creature gains immunity to all divination spells cast against it or cast to learn information about it.
Such divination fails to reveal any information. The Vecna-blooded creature immediately learns the name, appearance, and location of the caster who attempted the divination.
Unlike other god-blooded abilities, the Vecna-blooded creature retains this special quality after it loses other abilities from this template.
A Wish cast to obtain information on you would be a divination spell as a Wish duplicates any wizard or sorcerer spell of 8th level or lower, provided the spell is not of a school prohibited to you, or 7th level or lower even if it’s of a prohibited school.
They try to find you using a spell, even Wish, and it fails with you gaining all knowledge of who there are etc..
Unless there is a spell that is not a divination that has the same effect as a divination spell?
If you are good-aligned, consider channeling a celestial. If you are evil-aligned, consider making a pact such that a fiend possesses you. This can give you a +4 sacred or +4 profane bonus to Charisma, as well. I'm not entirely sure about the +4 sacred bonus from the celestial. This may only work in Eberron (where the rules specifically say that channeling celestials works similarly to possessions by fiends).
This is itemless, so definitely worth checking into.
How does this work? Where can I find it? :D Thank you for the suggestion!!
Well considering they would never be able to find this character by any means except to ask around physically, he could abuse them.
you summon an efreeti and force him to cast wishes on your behalf. Afterwards the efreeti returns to the city of brass and complains to the Grand Sultan of the Efreeti, who uses his abilities as a greater power to snuff out your life with no save allowed or sends his divine rank 0, 30th level efreeti assassin hit squad to kill you and then snuff out your soul so you won't do anything so foolish again. This is what I will do to your character as DM if you abuse called creatures ability to use Wish spells.
To be nice I will make this information available to you beforehand with a DC 30 knowledge: the planes check or by asking any efreeti or balor before attempting such foolishness.
To quote fear of girls "You can't backstab the dungeon master."
I never recommended abusing it. Gate has serious potential side-effects both on and off the table. I just said it's probably a better spell than wish for a wide variety of reasons, such as being able to once-in-a-while duplicate wish. Remember, that these creatures are real creatures, no summoned figments, and they remember everything you made them do. Everything.
Just the same, a lot of late stage 3.5 RPGA modules, adventure paths, et al almost REQUIRED abuse of Gate. They started making the published stuff VERY hard.
How does this work? Where can I find it? :D Thank you for the suggestion!!
Well, Channeling Celestials is located in the Book of Exalted Deeds (chapter 1 or 2, i don't recall which), and possessions are listed in various books. The Fiend Folio has the Fiend of Possession prestige class for fiends. An Imp with at least a wisdom of 14 can qualify for the prestige class. Taking five levels would give it enough power to grant the +4 bonus. Then, with the Planar Binding spell, it can be forced into service as your possessing creature.
The Eberron Campaign Setting (pg 102) has information on Possessions in Eberron (where they are far more common). Additionally, there are likely other sources (I haven't checked the Fiendish Codex, Heroes of Horror, or anything like that) with additional information about possessions.
Just the same, a lot of late stage 3.5 RPGA modules, adventure paths, et al almost REQUIRED abuse of Gate. They started making the published stuff VERY hard.
Oh god, did they ever. And a lot of the difficulty got really really variable. I'd see players have no trouble with a boss encounter and then get trounced by a supposedly trivial fight.
you summon an efreeti and force him to cast wishes on your behalf. Afterwards the efreeti returns to the city of brass and complains to the Grand Sultan of the Efreeti, who uses his abilities as a greater power to snuff out your life with no save allowed or sends his divine rank 0, 30th level efreeti assassin hit squad to kill you and then snuff out your soul so you won't do anything so foolish again. This is what I will do to your character as DM if you abuse called creatures ability to use Wish spells.
To be nice I will make this information available to you beforehand with a DC 30 knowledge: the planes check or by asking any efreeti or balor before attempting such foolishness.
To quote fear of girls "You can't backstab the dungeon master."
Hahaha.. Fair enough
Summon something that grants wishes that is loyal to Vecna ;)
I wouldn't abuse gate in any event but I might mention this to my DM who has had a player abuse wishes from Gated creatures in the past..
Well, Channeling Celestials is located in the Book of Exalted Deeds (chapter 1 or 2, i don't recall which), and possessions are listed in various books. The Fiend Folio has the Fiend of Possession prestige class for fiends. An Imp with at least a wisdom of 14 can qualify for the prestige class. Taking five levels would give it enough power to grant the +4 bonus. Then, with the Planar Binding spell, it can be forced into service as your possessing creature.
The Eberron Campaign Setting (pg 102) has information on Possessions in Eberron (where they are far more common). Additionally, there are likely other sources (I haven't checked the Fiendish Codex, Heroes of Horror, or anything like that) with additional information about possessions.
Thank you tos_shai_hulud! I'll look into this when I get a chance :D
Oh god, did they ever. And a lot of the difficulty got really really variable. I'd see players have no trouble with a boss encounter and then get trounced by a supposedly trivial fight.
Yep.. Been in that position before..
Oh god, did they ever. And a lot of the difficulty got really really variable. I'd see players have no trouble with a boss encounter and then get trounced by a supposedly trivial fight.
It happened to us this last weekend.
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We're playing the Paizo "Second Darkness" portion of the Pathfinder AP right now. And we just cannot seem to get enough XP to match the damn setting's CR. So, the DM had us go through one of the side-quests. Walked through like 20 enemies, no issues whatsoever. Hezrou on top of that. Blasphemy, Blasphemy, etc.
I managed to get off an Empowered Ray of Enfeeblement after an Assay Spell Resistance before the first Blasphemy. Then took 8 Str penalty and basically my PC was out (also a Sorcerer). My Rogue cohort tried to tumble around to flank from the stairs we were going up and failed the pathfinder DC to tumble (now 15 + enemy BAB). Shank, shank, guess what combat reflexes, shank, shank (crit), and he's down to 30 HP. Spellcasters then Scorching Ray the only viable target (death, below -30 HP). Blasphemy again. Ranger (favored enemy elf) manages to kill all the mooks that screwed my cohort. Hezrou comes up and we can't do anything b/c we got like 40 Str penalty between all of us. Oh, but he does hit much weaker than he would've . So, I dimension door away, and Quasit familiar just tries to help out (he can't do anything against the remaining Hezrou... SR vs. wands... etc).
So, yeah... Going for another cohort, and this time something that can remove status effects... We don't have a Cleric, just my UMD.
I managed to get off an Empowered Ray of Enfeeblement after an Assay Spell Resistance before the first Blasphemy. Then took 8 Str penalty and basically my PC was out (also a Sorcerer). My Rogue cohort tried to tumble around to flank from the stairs we were going up and failed the pathfinder DC to tumble (now 15 + enemy BAB). Shank, shank, guess what combat reflexes, shank, shank (crit), and he's down to 30 HP. Spellcasters then Scorching Ray the only viable target (death, below -30 HP). Blasphemy again. Ranger (favored enemy elf) manages to kill all the mooks that screwed my cohort. Hezrou comes up and we can't do anything b/c we got like 40 Str penalty between all of us. Oh, but he does hit much weaker than he would've
. So, I dimension door away, and Quasit familiar just tries to help out (he can't do anything against the remaining Hezrou... SR vs. wands... etc).So, yeah... Going for another cohort, and this time something that can remove status effects... We don't have a Cleric, just my UMD.
See our group had the opposite, we encountered a Hezrou as well but he dropped quickly.. But the Beholder with class levels that we came across.. We ran because it was just too much!!