Anjurant Chmp says anything with Armor Bonus or Shield Bonus. Like what the description says. I'm afraid that since the spell Mage Armor is a Conjuration spell it will not work with the Abjurant Armor Class ability. Can anyone help me?
Mark
Also, polymoprh into something fun, like a wartroll, an ent, a sword archon. They all have very high natural armor bonuses.
Dragonskin and spiderskin from SpC are both some nice spells too.
Shield is a good AC spell.
A good abjuration spell is protection from evil, with abjurant champion it gives a 7 bonus to deflection AC, agaisnt evil attackers.
whats that thing called in BOED, luminous armor or something? abjuration level 3 and gives 8 AC, as well as lower melee attacks by -4.
Also, polymoprh into something fun, like a wartroll, an ent, a sword archon. They all have very high natural armor bonuses.
Dragonskin and spiderskin from SpC are both some nice spells too.
Shield is a good AC spell.
A good abjuration spell is protection from evil, with abjurant champion it gives a 7 bonus to deflection AC, agaisnt evil attackers.
Thanks for the reply. But im sure that all those spells listed will not fall under the Abjurant Armor class ability besides Shield. It stats only Armor and Shield Bonuses to AC. Not deflection or natural armors. Any other ideas?
Thanks
Mark
That and shield will give you armor and shield bonuses, however, since bonuses with the same type don't stack, you don't need to look any further...
luminous armor is level 2 IIRC, you need greater luminous armor.
That and shield will give you armor and shield bonuses, however, since bonuses with the same type don't stack, you don't need to look any further...
Im not sure but i think my DM says BoED is considered 3.0 and not 3.5. (Pls Correct him if he is wrong). Is there anything else?
A polymorph can easily net you +15 to AC, and dragonskin another +5.
Cast a swift (throught swift abjuration) scintillating scales in battle and suddenly, your hard to hit with rays too.
You're concentrating on ONE aspect of the Abjurant Champion--and it's not even a good one. Yes you get a little boost from Shield (in most campaigns) and that's it. The other reasons to play AbC is for the BAB=CL, better hp, and swift Abj spells. If you don't like those either, don't play one.
I don't think i'm concentrating on ONE aspect ofthe AC. I fully understand the main strengths of the class but am trying to shore up some weaknesses and get the most AC out of 2-3 Spells i can.
I like the Polymorph Idea also.
However, as mentioned - Greater luminous Armor and Shield will take care of your AC completely. Your AC will be awsome - and that shield spell is a swift action.
The BAB CL is good for a Gish build. However, AC is still a great PrC for a full caster, non-meleer as well.
Lots of great abilities with an AC.
Any time you cast an abjuration spell that grants you an armor bonus or shield bonus to AC, you can increase the value of the bonus by your abjurant champion class level. Abjurant champions rely on mage armor, shield, and similar spells instead of actual armor.
There's a strong case to be made to your DM(in case BoED is not an option): although the ability specifies abjuration spells, the example lists mage armor as a stock spell for this ability. I think you could easily convince most DMs that this ability ought to include mage armor spells, as that seems to be the intent of the authors, even if they didn't think it all the way through.
Im not sure but i think my DM says BoED is considered 3.0 and not 3.5. (Pls Correct him if he is wrong). Is there anything else?
He is wrong. BoED is 3.5 (BoVD, on the other hand, is 3.0).
Some good abjurations include protection against alignment, magic circle against alignment, dispel magic to a point, and resist energy.
He is wrong. BoED is 3.5 (BoVD, on the other hand, is 3.0).
Addition: BoeD was issued in October 2003, and D&D 3.5 was launched in July 2003. that's all the proof needed
If your DM allows this combo it could net you +14 AC at high levels.
I always wanted to try Ectoplasmic Armour (SpC) metamagiced with Transdimensional Spell (CAr). Ectoplasmic Armour should only work on ghosts and the like, and Transdimensional spell should allow spells to affect creatures on the Material Plane and Shadow (or whatever) Plane.
If your DM allows this combo it could net you +14 AC at high levels.
Does this work. the way i read transdimensional spell, i think not. if so for a 1st level spell an AC could get a maximum of 19 to AC.
A Spellcaster/Argent Savant 5/Abjurant Champion 5 can cast both greater mage armor and shield on herself to gain a whopping +24 to AC (if the DM rules that the Abjurant Champion ability applies to the mage armor line of spells).
With that, Abjurant Champion, Argent Savant, and Paragnostic Apostle, I think you can get up to +34 to AC ((8+5+2+2+2)+(4+5+2+2+2)) from shield and greater luminous armor.
I'm AFB right now, but I think that's right. If so, that's 44 AC and a -4 on enemie's melee attacks from just 2 spells and a few hundred gp. If you add in polymorph and a couple of other buffs then you could get some pretty impressive numbers.
As an aside: I refused to use Greater Mage Armour when it had a 50gp material component, let alone a few hundred go one...
I hate gp component spells...Is Luminous Armour a Force effect? If not, then Argent Savant doesn't work on it.
As an aside: I refused to use Greater Mage Armour when it had a 50gp material component, let alone a few hundred go one...
Good thing it's material component free now. :D
whats that thing called in BOED, luminous armor or something? abjuration level 3 and gives 8 AC, as well as lower melee attacks by -4.
Also, polymoprh into something fun, like a wartroll, an ent, a sword archon. They all have very high natural armor bonuses.
Dragonskin and spiderskin from SpC are both some nice spells too.
Shield is a good AC spell.
A good abjuration spell is protection from evil, with abjurant champion it gives a 7 bonus to deflection AC, agaisnt evil attackers.
Luminous provides an Armour Bonus, and if it is abjuration would work. Only castable by good (or at minimum non evil) and prepared casters.
Polymorh does not provide Armour bonus to AC and wouldn't work.
I am not sure if Dragonskin/Spiderskin provide Armour Bonus or Natural Armour Bonus, if Natural they would not work. If they provide indirect AC they would not work.
Shield provides an Armour bonus? Or is it shield bonus or deflection? If Deflection it wouldn't work. Does AbCham work for Shield bonus?
Protection From Evil provides deflection, so it doesn't work.
Use Mage Armour
No longer works for A.Champ's abilities in Errata.
Could someone point out what material componenet this guy is talking about that allows an additional 2 to ac for shield and (mage or luminious?) armor....
A bit expensive to use on a regular basis, but it helps get your AC even higher in a BBEG fight or something.
Between Shield, Luminous Armor, SpiderSkin, there is another +3AC to tack on.
Shield of Faith or the like (deflection) would boost to +4. There might be other spells that add AC bonuses from other non-enhancement sources such as a dodge bonus, or a sacred bonus or competence, morale, etc.