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#1
bloodofgods
Apr 06, 2008 17:59:08 Is there anything in any of the rules that says a Druid can't use a shield that has the animated property and still gain its benefits while in wildshape form?

Your not technically wearing it, thus it does not meld into your body, and it doesn't seem that there is any error in this logic...

Can anyone point me in the direction or rules that disallow this from happening, or the rules that allow this to happen?
#2
banor
Apr 06, 2008 18:07:47 Animated Shields are considered wielded by the users. The only thing they do is to free hands. Now you could easily put a Wilding Clasp on one as enjoy it while you tear people apart
#3
bloodofgods
Apr 06, 2008 18:09:23
Animated Shields are considered wielded by the users. The only thing they do is to free hands. Now you could easily put a Wilding Clasp on one as enjoy it while you tear people apart

That does seem to be the case.... so it would 13k for a +1 shield bonus that you could add to your character.. THat is totally worth it
#4
cricket_god
Apr 06, 2008 19:26:58
That does seem to be the case.... so it would 13k for a +1 shield bonus that you could add to your character.. THat is totally worth it

Technically, it would be a +3 bonus (+1 Animated Heavy Wooden Shield).
#5
stickboy2323
Apr 06, 2008 19:32:39
Animated Shields are considered wielded by the users. The only thing they do is to free hands. Now you could easily put a Wilding Clasp on one as enjoy it while you tear people apart

I thought Wilding Clasps could only be joined to amulet or cloak like items. Has there been an update or errata that has changed this?
#6
bloodofgods
Apr 07, 2008 2:21:37
Technically, it would be a +3 bonus (+1 Animated Heavy Wooden Shield).

Lol I know, a +3 shield is 9k.... wilding clasps are 4k....

So 13k for a shield that adds its base armor class plus 1 enhancement, thus a PLUS 1 SHIELD
#7
bloodofgods
Apr 07, 2008 2:22:08
I thought Wilding Clasps could only be joined to amulet or cloak like items. Has there been an update or errata that has changed this?

Does anyone have the quote from wilding clasps so I can read up on this and find out?
#8
aftercrescent
Apr 07, 2008 2:26:06 MIC p. 190. Wilding clasp will not stop a druid from losing his powers if attached to a metal shield.
#9
nebo
Apr 07, 2008 2:29:19 An animated shield strikes me as one of those items for which it is actually practical to just don after you wildshape.
#10
bloodofgods
Apr 07, 2008 2:29:23
MIC p. 190. Wilding clasp will not stop a druid from losing his powers if attached to a metal shield.

So according to Raw A druid can use an animated shield in animal form with no penalty and this is legal?
#11
ieniemienie
Apr 07, 2008 2:36:49 Not if its made from metal, but a Dragonhide Animated +1 shield with a wilding clasp, Yes
#12
aftercrescent
Apr 07, 2008 2:36:50 As long as it is not metal, yes. If it is metal she loses wildshaping while wielding the shield and for 24 hours after.

Edit: Ninja'd
#13
bloodofgods
Apr 07, 2008 19:38:18
Not if its made from metal, but a Dragonhide Animated +1 shield with a wilding clasp, Yes

Here's the problem with that assumptions, you DO NOT WEAR SHIELDS, you wield shields.

Thus the Wilding clasps do not work with them and boom, the entire idea is shot to hell..

Now, can a druid just use an animated shield while in wildshape form without using a wilding clasps, and if not, where do you get this rule?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 bloodofgods Apr 06, 2008 17:59:08	Is there anything in any of the rules that says a Druid can't use a shield that has the animated property and still gain its benefits while in wildshape form? Your not technically wearing it, thus it does not meld into your body, and it doesn't seem that there is any error in this logic... Can anyone point me in the direction or rules that disallow this from happening, or the rules that allow this to happen?
#2 banor Apr 06, 2008 18:07:47	Animated Shields are considered wielded by the users. The only thing they do is to free hands. Now you could easily put a Wilding Clasp on one as enjoy it while you tear people apart
#3 bloodofgods Apr 06, 2008 18:09:23	Animated Shields are considered wielded by the users. The only thing they do is to free hands. Now you could easily put a Wilding Clasp on one as enjoy it while you tear people apart That does seem to be the case.... so it would 13k for a +1 shield bonus that you could add to your character.. THat is totally worth it
#4 cricket_god Apr 06, 2008 19:26:58	That does seem to be the case.... so it would 13k for a +1 shield bonus that you could add to your character.. THat is totally worth it Technically, it would be a +3 bonus (+1 Animated Heavy Wooden Shield).
#5 stickboy2323 Apr 06, 2008 19:32:39	Animated Shields are considered wielded by the users. The only thing they do is to free hands. Now you could easily put a Wilding Clasp on one as enjoy it while you tear people apart I thought Wilding Clasps could only be joined to amulet or cloak like items. Has there been an update or errata that has changed this?
#6 bloodofgods Apr 07, 2008 2:21:37	Technically, it would be a +3 bonus (+1 Animated Heavy Wooden Shield). Lol I know, a +3 shield is 9k.... wilding clasps are 4k.... So 13k for a shield that adds its base armor class plus 1 enhancement, thus a PLUS 1 SHIELD
#7 bloodofgods Apr 07, 2008 2:22:08	I thought Wilding Clasps could only be joined to amulet or cloak like items. Has there been an update or errata that has changed this? Does anyone have the quote from wilding clasps so I can read up on this and find out?
#8 aftercrescent Apr 07, 2008 2:26:06	MIC p. 190. Wilding clasp will not stop a druid from losing his powers if attached to a metal shield.
#9 nebo Apr 07, 2008 2:29:19	An animated shield strikes me as one of those items for which it is actually practical to just don after you wildshape.
#10 bloodofgods Apr 07, 2008 2:29:23	MIC p. 190. Wilding clasp will not stop a druid from losing his powers if attached to a metal shield. So according to Raw A druid can use an animated shield in animal form with no penalty and this is legal?
#11 ieniemienie Apr 07, 2008 2:36:49	Not if its made from metal, but a Dragonhide Animated +1 shield with a wilding clasp, Yes
#12 aftercrescent Apr 07, 2008 2:36:50	As long as it is not metal, yes. If it is metal she loses wildshaping while wielding the shield and for 24 hours after. Edit: Ninja'd
#13 bloodofgods Apr 07, 2008 19:38:18	Not if its made from metal, but a Dragonhide Animated +1 shield with a wilding clasp, Yes Here's the problem with that assumptions, you DO NOT WEAR SHIELDS, you wield shields. Thus the Wilding clasps do not work with them and boom, the entire idea is shot to hell.. Now, can a druid just use an animated shield while in wildshape form without using a wilding clasps, and if not, where do you get this rule?