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#1 esyt Feb 03, 2009 16:54:36	were all level 14 so far i only have like 11 levels done so build is Human Ex-samurai 1/Fighter 3/Bard 1/War chanter 3/Ronin 2/fighter1 Feats 1(Human: Weapon focus (Bastard sword), Samurai: EWP (Bastard sword), Level: Combat reflexes), 2(Fighter: Power attack), 3(Fighter: Combat expertise, Level: Dodge), 6(Level: Karmic strike), 9(Level: Mobility)11(figher:spring attack) http://forums.gleemax.com/wotc_archive/index.php/t-144104 is where i got the meat of the build i need to fit in shock trooper and am allowed 2 flaws(should i use flaw slot for shock trooper or what?) i need to optimize spring attack aswell also im gonna be fighting a copy of myself so i dunno how thats gonna work my dm says i need to "earn" equipment so that basicly means i get to start with the starting package and a weapon which i chose a valurous wrathful-healing bastard sword(can change)(id go frenzied barb if i started with right wealth) one free templete and im thinking of going with feral or something with extreme dex bonus(or both if anybody has anything)
#2 emy Feb 03, 2009 23:48:09	Spring Attacking? Are you sure you don't just want Whirling Frenzy Lion Totem Barbarian 1?
#3 sled Feb 04, 2009 0:01:29	Spring Attacking? Are you sure you don't just want Whirling Frenzy Lion Totem Barbarian 1? empty quoting dis
#4 esyt Feb 04, 2009 1:15:43	lion totem? basicly my goal i wanna go for is no ac but run in hit something and run out. or run around provokeing Aoo like a mad man im new at minmaxin i have the ability to use builds posted on here and similar easy stuff and i dont suck that bad at character generation but my knowledge of whats good and whats bad is still preety much limited to the PHB
#5 emy Feb 04, 2009 1:27:09	Links: Barbarian Whirling Frenzy (alternate form of Rage) The Lion Totem alternate class feature is in Complete Champion. It replaces the Barbarian's Fast Movement ability with Pounce.
#6 esyt Feb 04, 2009 19:33:30	all very simple so yes a 1 level dip i see is inorder is there anyway for me to get that druken master charge ability where i can charage any which way i want?
#7 jameswilliamogle Feb 04, 2009 19:39:48	Any which way is tough, but in the SRD there's this and a similar skill trick in Complete Scoundrel that doesn't require psionics.
#8 metagon Feb 04, 2009 23:08:10	Boots of the Battle Charger lets you charge as a standard action up to your speed (instead of twice your speed). Unfortunately it's only twice a day. The Twisted Charge skill trick is only once per encounter, and Psionic Charge requires expending psionic focus. There is also the Diamond Mind maneuver Bounding Assault that lets you take two move actions as part of your charge, but its subject to the same refresh rate as other maneuvers. Travel Devotion lets you have the ability to move as a swift action for a minute once a day, so then you can charge for the rest of the round.
#9 esyt Feb 05, 2009 1:51:55	i see battle charger boots and a belt of battle for one free turn so i guess ill go with that anyone else have anything neat to suggest?
#10 emy Feb 05, 2009 1:57:59	i see battle charger boots and a belt of battle for one free turn so i guess ill go with that anyone else have anything neat to suggest? Yeah, check out Endarire's dragoon thread. You might find a few ways to multiply your damage on a charge. Many of them involve jumping though, so they may not mesh that well with the character you've already established.
#11 saxis Feb 05, 2009 11:08:06	I've got a build that does something similar, not sure if you'd be interested: Human, LN 1. Cobra Strike Monk: *Dodge, *Carmendine Monk, Combat Reflexes 2. Cobra Strike Monk: *Mobility, *Evasion 3. Swashbuckler: *Weapon Finesse, Exotic Weapon Prof (spiked chain) 4. Swashbuckler: 5. Swashbuckler: *Insightful Strike 6. Fighter: *Combat Expertise, Improved Trip 7. Fighter: *Weapon Focus (spiked chain) 8. Fighter: 9. Fighter: *Spring Attack, Power Attack 10. Exotic Weapon Master: *Exotic Weapon Trip 11. Duelist: *Canny Defense 12. Duelist: Elusive Target 13. Duelist: 14. Duelist: 15. Duelist: Robilar's Gambit 16. Duelist: 17. Duelist: *Elaborate Parry 18. Duelist: Bounding Assault 19. Fighter: 20. Fighter: *Rapid Blitz *Bonus feats/notable class abilities Basically, you fight defensively and go Spring Attacking, trying to provoke as many AoO's as you can by NOT tumbling. Something to boost your speed and size is extremely helpful. Basically, you assume they're going to miss your ramped up AC. You get Int to AC twice from Carmendine and Duelist, and to damage from Swashbuckler. When they do miss, you make your free trip and free attack from Elusive Target and Improved Trip. If you had Robilar's activated, you get another attack. You still get your 3 attacks from Rapid Blitz on the Spring Attack. Lather, Rinse, Repeat.
#12 esyt Feb 05, 2009 14:21:09	alrighty love the build posted above should i take a flaw to get shock trooper to ramp up damage and stuff?
#13 saxis Feb 05, 2009 17:28:01	Well, the point is really the tripping, which the majority of comes with the Cause Overreach from Elusive Target. You need your enemies to MISS you on their AoO, so if you start dropping your AC to Power Attack, they have a much better chance of hitting. Granted, it's fairly easy to get this build's AC around 70 by 20th level... I play this in a party of 7 with 2 other damagers, so I'm not as concerned about damage, although I still do pretty well. I usually only Power Attack 4 or so, which is made up by any tripped opponents -4 to AC. PS: This build also suffers a bit from MAD. He uses Dex to attack and AC, Str for damage and tripping power, Int for damage and AC, and as a melee fighter, Con isn't bad to have either... With 32 pt-buy, I went Str 14, Dex 17, Con 12, Int 15, Wis 10, Cha 8