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#1
Kingofswing
Dec 25, 2012 8:13:23 Marry HO HO to everyone.

As the titles says this is a back up char incase my char dies and I have a great idea but I need a little help figuring out what way I should travel in this buld

The build is going to be a monk/Tattoo monk/Barbarian/ x I have not desided to add something in there or not but was looking at the warshaper to put in there I was going to be a human but now with warshaper changling is looking alot better but with the barbarian class in there Half-Orc would be a nice fit too. So my question is this is there a shapshifter race that would fit ths better of should I come up with some way of my human to get shapeshifter subtype mind you this is going to be a little hard as my DM has not put the eberron books on the list but I will try if changling is the best and I know for a fact he hates shifters thinks they are to over powered I say no but he hates them so they are out.

I also know that the PREQ for tattoo monk suck but I'm looking at only 7 levels in tattoo and maybe 9 but I do not know yest so t will look something like this

Monk 4 (5) / Tattoo 7/ \Lion totem barbaran 1/ War shaper 2             It will be monk 4 or 5 it all comes down to if I can get something to give me he +1 BAB for warshaper or not I may just fo 5 monk

Monk lv1 lv 2 unchnaged

Monk 3 Prayer of Meditaion

Monk 4 Holy strike

Monk 5 ( unchnged but maked my 1st tattoo worth the crap)

Tattoo Monk Lv1 Tattoo: Crane: immune to disease poisons and aging ( good thing since he is age 52)

Tattoo Monk Lv3 Tattoo: oceans (maybe but my DM is not normally that bad on not eating drinking and we have rings of substanece ) If not oceans then I do not know what

Tattoo Monk lv5 Not sure

Tattoo monk lv7 Pheonix SR 15+ class level

Lion totem barbarian lv 1 rage and pounce

Warshaper Lv1 (unchanged)  if changling

Warshaper lv 2 unchanged

If human or something else I'm stuck on this and yes his alignment changes from lawful good to chaotic good anyone lend me a hand with this


#2
draco1119
Dec 25, 2012 9:18:01 If your alignment changes away from Lawful, don't you lose most of your monk (and probably Tattooed Monk) abilities?
#3
Andarious-Rosethorn
Dec 25, 2012 11:00:16 Non-lawful monks cannot advance as monks. That's it. As much as he's doing it wrong, he's doing it right there at least. Becoming a Monk after Barbarian ruins the Barbarian Rage, but doing it the other way around doesn't really lose you much.
#4
frost.fire
Dec 25, 2012 13:13:36 May I urge you away from tattooed monk maybe towards fist of the forest
#5
Maat_Mons
Dec 25, 2012 16:11:18
Complete Warrior has an entry on page 16 called “Meeting Class Requirements.” It says that if you stop qualifying for a prestige class, you lose the class features it gave you.

Another way to eliminate ability score penalties for aging is the crystal master prestige class. The change shape alternative class feature for egoist gives minor change shape without being a changeling.
#6
Kingofswing
Dec 25, 2012 17:31:14 Yes I understand that what the complete warrior states but it states in the PHB that a monk maintaines his monk abilities if his alignment changes since the tattoo monk stacks with monk I can not see that ruling not being the same for that class as well but you could be right it would be the call of my DM I still do not understand what wrong part is if you are a Barb then go monk you lose your rage and all Barb class features.

If this is not going to work I was also looking at a Xeph monk/Tattoo monk/Barb....This is for total max attack off of a charge attack so it would work like this ( I think )

Monk 5 Tattoo 7 Barb 1 ( this is not changed ) this would give me a Flurry of blows or +9/+9/+9/+4 add in the +2 for the charge makes it a +11/+11/+11/+6 befor eany bonuses lete give him a str of 16 for a +3 that is +14/+14/+14/+9 Now we give him haste that gives him another attack so that makes it +14/+14/+14/+14/+9 ok ths is getting better we will also give him xeph clarity feat which allows you to give up your racial burst to speed for an extra attack at your highest rating. Now it says 1 or more for an extra attack this makes no sense wxcept that each burst you give up you get another attack so we give him the racial feat extra bursts per day for a total of 3 burst so you give up 1 per attack if you see it that way and I do that gives you +14/+14/+14/+14+14/+14/+9 while charging Not done yet. You give the monk TWF now this is starting to get a little sick here but fun at the same time that makes this a +12/+12/+12/+12/+12/+12/+12/+7 Ok now we add n the dage bonus part this bring all them +12 back up to +14 and a +9 with no magic yet. give him a +2 hand wrappings and this is now +16/+16/+16/+16/+16/+16/+16/+11 now time for damage shall be

First off we have his unarmed damage of 1D10 +7* 8

Second we make sure he has flyng kick add 1D12 to damage while charging

make sure he has the holy strike class feature offer Ki strike magic that adds anothe 1D6 damage to evil creatures

Now if you can get circle kick into ths I think you have the makings of a major damage dealer that is not a Frenz Bezerk

so what you think ?

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#1 Kingofswing Dec 25, 2012 8:13:23	Marry HO HO to everyone. As the titles says this is a back up char incase my char dies and I have a great idea but I need a little help figuring out what way I should travel in this buld The build is going to be a monk/Tattoo monk/Barbarian/ x I have not desided to add something in there or not but was looking at the warshaper to put in there I was going to be a human but now with warshaper changling is looking alot better but with the barbarian class in there Half-Orc would be a nice fit too. So my question is this is there a shapshifter race that would fit ths better of should I come up with some way of my human to get shapeshifter subtype mind you this is going to be a little hard as my DM has not put the eberron books on the list but I will try if changling is the best and I know for a fact he hates shifters thinks they are to over powered I say no but he hates them so they are out. I also know that the PREQ for tattoo monk suck but I'm looking at only 7 levels in tattoo and maybe 9 but I do not know yest so t will look something like this Monk 4 (5) / Tattoo 7/ \Lion totem barbaran 1/ War shaper 2 It will be monk 4 or 5 it all comes down to if I can get something to give me he +1 BAB for warshaper or not I may just fo 5 monk Monk lv1 lv 2 unchnaged Monk 3 Prayer of Meditaion Monk 4 Holy strike Monk 5 ( unchnged but maked my 1st tattoo worth the crap) Tattoo Monk Lv1 Tattoo: Crane: immune to disease poisons and aging ( good thing since he is age 52) Tattoo Monk Lv3 Tattoo: oceans (maybe but my DM is not normally that bad on not eating drinking and we have rings of substanece ) If not oceans then I do not know what Tattoo Monk lv5 Not sure Tattoo monk lv7 Pheonix SR 15+ class level Lion totem barbarian lv 1 rage and pounce Warshaper Lv1 (unchanged) if changling Warshaper lv 2 unchanged If human or something else I'm stuck on this and yes his alignment changes from lawful good to chaotic good anyone lend me a hand with this
#2 draco1119 Dec 25, 2012 9:18:01	If your alignment changes away from Lawful, don't you lose most of your monk (and probably Tattooed Monk) abilities?
#3 Andarious-Rosethorn Dec 25, 2012 11:00:16	Non-lawful monks cannot advance as monks. That's it. As much as he's doing it wrong, he's doing it right there at least. Becoming a Monk after Barbarian ruins the Barbarian Rage, but doing it the other way around doesn't really lose you much.
#4 frost.fire Dec 25, 2012 13:13:36	May I urge you away from tattooed monk maybe towards fist of the forest
#5 Maat_Mons Dec 25, 2012 16:11:18	Complete Warrior has an entry on page 16 called “Meeting Class Requirements.” It says that if you stop qualifying for a prestige class, you lose the class features it gave you. Another way to eliminate ability score penalties for aging is the crystal master prestige class. The change shape alternative class feature for egoist gives minor change shape without being a changeling.
#6 Kingofswing Dec 25, 2012 17:31:14	Yes I understand that what the complete warrior states but it states in the PHB that a monk maintaines his monk abilities if his alignment changes since the tattoo monk stacks with monk I can not see that ruling not being the same for that class as well but you could be right it would be the call of my DM I still do not understand what wrong part is if you are a Barb then go monk you lose your rage and all Barb class features. If this is not going to work I was also looking at a Xeph monk/Tattoo monk/Barb....This is for total max attack off of a charge attack so it would work like this ( I think ) Monk 5 Tattoo 7 Barb 1 ( this is not changed ) this would give me a Flurry of blows or +9/+9/+9/+4 add in the +2 for the charge makes it a +11/+11/+11/+6 befor eany bonuses lete give him a str of 16 for a +3 that is +14/+14/+14/+9 Now we give him haste that gives him another attack so that makes it +14/+14/+14/+14/+9 ok ths is getting better we will also give him xeph clarity feat which allows you to give up your racial burst to speed for an extra attack at your highest rating. Now it says 1 or more for an extra attack this makes no sense wxcept that each burst you give up you get another attack so we give him the racial feat extra bursts per day for a total of 3 burst so you give up 1 per attack if you see it that way and I do that gives you +14/+14/+14/+14+14/+14/+9 while charging Not done yet. You give the monk TWF now this is starting to get a little sick here but fun at the same time that makes this a +12/+12/+12/+12/+12/+12/+12/+7 Ok now we add n the dage bonus part this bring all them +12 back up to +14 and a +9 with no magic yet. give him a +2 hand wrappings and this is now +16/+16/+16/+16/+16/+16/+16/+11 now time for damage shall be First off we have his unarmed damage of 1D10 +7* 8 Second we make sure he has flyng kick add 1D12 to damage while charging make sure he has the holy strike class feature offer Ki strike magic that adds anothe 1D6 damage to evil creatures Now if you can get circle kick into ths I think you have the makings of a major damage dealer that is not a Frenz Bezerk so what you think ?