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| #1torunJun 07, 2010 0:34:34 | I need to make a character who will make an awesome tank class. Warblade was recommended to me however i have no experience with them could someone tell me exactly what PHB race/non exotic race would be best for a tank class and will a warblade be my best choice. If so what feats should i focus on? If not what class/race/feats should i look for? |
| #2gorfnad_the_shiznitJun 07, 2010 1:01:56 | May I suggest instead a crusader or a mix of crusader and warblade
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| #3lormadorJun 07, 2010 7:52:28 | Warblade is an excellent tanking class, the other being Crusader. There are ways to tank with other things, depending on books allowed. I will in passing give an honorable mention to the Deepwarden, a dwarven PrC from Races of Stone with sick, beautiful abilities. Rather than pontificate on the varieties of Crusader/Warblade, and which combination of the two is the best in your particular case, I'll take this opportunity to lay out (at the risk of misplacing myself) a more literal 'tank' character. A Soulbow is not generally considered a Tank character. But I will say, that if you can use Crystalkeep material, there's a little variant under Fighter called Targetteer. They get a nice little ability that gives.... drum roll.... Dex to damage with ranged weapons! Now look under Ranger. There's a nice variant called Moon-Warded Ranger that gives Wis to AC. But look! You can wear armor and use a shield! Now check out Soulbow. You can use a shield with that, too! With Wis and Dex on damage + AC + 2 of your saves, in armor with a Tower shield, this is well on the way to Tankland. Unlike most tanks, you don't even need to be in melee. Once the encounter starts, just point and shoot. For the cool points, play a Dwarf and get a level of Dwarven Defender or something. Then you can sit there and hammer away with Greater Psionic Shot + Manyshot. |
| #4carnivoreJun 07, 2010 15:03:14 | if you wan to use Soulbow .... you dont need Targeteer .... just focus on Wis.... you could do very nicely like this: Dwarf Monk 4/ Soulknife 3/ Soulbow 8/ Deepwarden 2/ Dwarven Defender 3 BAB +16 Wis to AC, Attack, Damage Con to AC Greater Flurry with Mind Arrows(feats required: Monastic Training, Tashalatora, Flowing Blade) ![]() |
| #5BloodDragonJun 08, 2010 11:19:24 | if you wan to use Soulbow .... you dont need Targeteer .... just focus on Wis.... you could do very nicely like this: Out of curiosity why 4 levels of Monk instead of Monk 2 and something else? |
| #6carnivoreJun 08, 2010 11:36:46 | the main goal is to get 11 effective levels of Monk for Greater Flurry.... also you dont want to loose any more BAB ..... Monk 2/ Soulbow 10 would lose another BAB ... Monk 2/ Soulbow 8/ xx? would not get Greater Flurry ... unless the PrC progressed Flurry of Blows ... could go with Disciple of the Eye(Races of the Dragon) ... but it would also lose another BAB![]() |
| #7BloodDragonJun 08, 2010 12:10:42 | Hmn. Would that stack with Rapid Shot? Also Soulbow doesn't give Wis to Attack but it can get Zen Archery as a bonus feat so easily fixed. |
| #8torunJun 09, 2010 1:29:28 | Robilar’s Gambit just says that it allows an opponent who attacks you a bonus to attack and dmg but u get a AoO but it does not specify how much of a bonus it gives? anyone know? |
| #9Maat_MonsJun 09, 2010 3:53:48 | Are you just reading the excerpt on the website? That only contains the table of feat summaries that appears at the beginning of the feat section in Player's Handbook II. The full text of the feat specifies the bonus quite clearly. When you Google something, it's often worth checking out the second result before giving up. |
| #10carnivoreJun 09, 2010 4:57:44 | they gain +4 to hit and damage if you are using Robilars Gambit.... notice: Robilar's Gambit Type: General By offering Robilar's Gambit, you absorb damage to place yourself in an advantageous position. This dangerous sacrifice is not for the unfit or the unwise, for one failed retaliatory strike can undo the advantage gained. lord Robilar, a rash and impetuous fighter, gained fame using this technique against his enemies. Prerequisite: Combat Reflexes, base attack bonus +12. |
| #11spiral_rider_hJun 09, 2010 8:10:50 | I played a dwarven Warblade like this: Warblade 7/Deepwarden 2/Dwarven Defender 10/Deepwarden +1 Prerequisites for Deepwarden were a bit tough since Heal, Knowledge (dungeoneering) and Survival are cross-class. Luckily that 4+Int skill points made up for it. I just dumped Dex and did this for feats: 1. Insightful Reflexes* 3. Dodge 5. Endurance (Warblade) 6. Improved Toughness (take Toughness here if your DM won't let you qualify with Improved) 9. Heavy Armor Optimization* 12. Greater Heavy Armor Optimization* 15. Shield Specialization (heavy)* 18. Shield Ward* Feats marked with an asterisk could be changed to feats associated with a lockdown build if so inclined to make it more tankish. |
| #12torunJun 11, 2010 17:42:02 | that is a pretty nice build from what i can tell spiral. seems like it defenitly has alot of defensive capabilities. and thank you carnivore that helped me tremendously. |
| #13carnivoreJun 12, 2010 10:12:18 | you a welcome.... i would second Gorfnad_the_shiznits suggestions, they are very good what are you looking for? ![]() |
| #14torunJun 12, 2010 21:23:59 | well as someone who has not played in a really long time i wanted a simple outline build of a tank character who could not only tank but deal okay dmg and be self sufficient as our healer doesnt heal. Our dm insist on puttin us up against hard targets that require team effort and coordination. but since our cleric doesnt heal i need something that can tank better than just a heavy armor fighter/samurai. but that can also heal themselves in ways that wont require a healer. the simpler the build/class/feats are the better off i am as i havent really played since 2002. lol. the Human 20 crusader build that gorfnad listed is what i am leaning towards atm unless someone gives me a better idea ^_^. |