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#1
Griff
Jun 24, 2009 20:47:26 What is the most efficient way of a high level (17) party dropping off the radar from scrying, while on the move?

I'm aware of non-detection, but it grants a check.
Screen is a static location and we need to move.
Mind blank is a bit high level and places a big drain on our high level spells.

Have access to cleric, druid, wizard/sorc spells at 17th.
No easy access to new scrolls of high level spells for wizo tho.

And our enemy has access to probably whatever they need.
#2
dr_rocktopus
Jun 24, 2009 21:20:28 I'm a fan of hiding in Yuirwood myself, but I doubt you can get to faerun and then into the Yuirwood.
#3
blightersbane
Jun 24, 2009 21:44:58 well you all could take levels in Illithid Slayer
#4
lormador
Jun 24, 2009 22:35:28 One could craft an item with continuous Mind Blank. [(8th level spell)(caster level 15)(2000)]/2=120k each.

One could craft a staff with Mind Blank, and it might get through the campaign, which would cost (375gp)(8th level spell)(caster level 15)=45k. It would cover those days when you want to save the 8ths for different magic or attack magic, and it would come in handy after a fight when the all-day buffs might have been dispelled.

Scribing your own scrolls will give supplementary Mind Blanks at 1500gp each, which isn't too bad.

Maybe it would take a Psychic Reformation and some fairly specific feat choices, but Chain Spell, Practical Metamagic (Chain Spell) and Metamagic School Focus (Abjuration) could get a Chained Mind Blank as a 9th level spell. You're probably already using Chained Greater Dispel Magic anyway, and this works quite nicely with that. Alternatively, Incantatrix could get up Chained Mind Blanks quite easily.

If it's only the Scrying spell you're worried about, Spell Immunity can cover that base. Misses the 5th level Cleric version, though. It might work, and it's dead easy. Detect Scrying can serve as a scrying defense, too.

And finally, one could research a new spell. Perhaps one that only covered one from Divination, but did not provide the complete enchantment immunity that Mind Blank does? Hence it would be lower level.
#5
pithica
Jun 24, 2009 22:38:36 A once a day use activated mind blank item costs...

8 * 15 * 1,000gp / 5 = 24,000gp

At 17, that's not too far out of anyone's price range.

There's also the amulet of retributive scrying, 10d6 of unmitigated damage is enough to make anyone reconsider.
#6
kaszman
Jun 24, 2009 23:21:02 find out who wants to scry you, scry him, greater teleport, fireball, teleport back to party, continue on your merry way.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 Griff Jun 24, 2009 20:47:26	What is the most efficient way of a high level (17) party dropping off the radar from scrying, while on the move? I'm aware of non-detection, but it grants a check. Screen is a static location and we need to move. Mind blank is a bit high level and places a big drain on our high level spells. Have access to cleric, druid, wizard/sorc spells at 17th. No easy access to new scrolls of high level spells for wizo tho. And our enemy has access to probably whatever they need.
#2 dr_rocktopus Jun 24, 2009 21:20:28	I'm a fan of hiding in Yuirwood myself, but I doubt you can get to faerun and then into the Yuirwood.
#3 blightersbane Jun 24, 2009 21:44:58	well you all could take levels in Illithid Slayer
#4 lormador Jun 24, 2009 22:35:28	One could craft an item with continuous Mind Blank. [(8th level spell)(caster level 15)(2000)]/2=120k each. One could craft a staff with Mind Blank, and it might get through the campaign, which would cost (375gp)(8th level spell)(caster level 15)=45k. It would cover those days when you want to save the 8ths for different magic or attack magic, and it would come in handy after a fight when the all-day buffs might have been dispelled. Scribing your own scrolls will give supplementary Mind Blanks at 1500gp each, which isn't too bad. Maybe it would take a Psychic Reformation and some fairly specific feat choices, but Chain Spell, Practical Metamagic (Chain Spell) and Metamagic School Focus (Abjuration) could get a Chained Mind Blank as a 9th level spell. You're probably already using Chained Greater Dispel Magic anyway, and this works quite nicely with that. Alternatively, Incantatrix could get up Chained Mind Blanks quite easily. If it's only the Scrying spell you're worried about, Spell Immunity can cover that base. Misses the 5th level Cleric version, though. It might work, and it's dead easy. Detect Scrying can serve as a scrying defense, too. And finally, one could research a new spell. Perhaps one that only covered one from Divination, but did not provide the complete enchantment immunity that Mind Blank does? Hence it would be lower level.
#5 pithica Jun 24, 2009 22:38:36	A once a day use activated mind blank item costs... 8 * 15 * 1,000gp / 5 = 24,000gp At 17, that's not too far out of anyone's price range. There's also the amulet of retributive scrying, 10d6 of unmitigated damage is enough to make anyone reconsider.
#6 kaszman Jun 24, 2009 23:21:02	find out who wants to scry you, scry him, greater teleport, fireball, teleport back to party, continue on your merry way.