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blood magus or incatatrix

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#1
hibiscus
May 22, 2008 13:05:10 i am in a primarily combat based campaign and my base class is sorcerer.
i am very fond of messing around with the combat area and monsters over dealing damage I.E baleful transposition, touch of idiocy.

that being said i a torn on what prestige to take i like the ability to carry a bunch of spells around with me that cant be stolen via Scarification and Blood Draught. i also like being able to have more of my most handy spells. however the incatatrix seems very good for abusing spell permanence. i suppose incatatrix would fill the support role more powerfully but blood magus could fill the support role with more spell volume.

i know this is a character Optimization board so i know you guys would know the best each could be so i was hoping some one could help me.
thanks a ton ^_^

as an aside i am deeply sorry i this is a misplaced post.
#2
mittenninja
May 22, 2008 13:08:46 Incantrix: Full caster level progression, amazing abilities.

Blood Magus: Lost caster levels, toughness as a prereq, way below average class features.

You tell me?

While you "have more" to work with the blood magus, you'll actually get WAY more bang for your buck with Incantrix via the lessend metamagic costs, plus you won't slow you spell progression, which is vital when you're already behind a wizard.
#3
hibiscus
May 22, 2008 13:12:49 that is absolutly true. i missed the caster level loss thanks a ton
#4
gaffer
May 22, 2008 13:28:50 INCANTATRIX
#5
Dictum_Mortuum
May 22, 2008 14:26:28
INCANTATRIX

QFE
#6
eldariel
May 22, 2008 14:49:56
QFE

E? O I'd understand, and T, but E? Quoted for Efficiency?
#7
Dictum_Mortuum
May 22, 2008 15:44:48 emphasis :P
#8
eldariel
May 22, 2008 16:21:31
emphasis :P

Curses, foiled again!
#9
darksamuari
May 22, 2008 21:03:57 I would recommend Blood Magus only if you want a highly thematically flavored character constructed around the concept of blood.

If not, than mechanically Incatatrix is stronger.
#10
gaffer
May 22, 2008 21:56:07
I would recommend Blood Magus only if you want a highly thematically flavored character constructed around the concept of blood.

If not, than mechanically Incatatrix is stronger.

Character Development boards are over there *points*
#11
Endarire
May 23, 2008 0:28:19 For a full arcane caster, if you have a choice between Incantatrix and something else, default to Incantatrix: It's hard to beat.
#12
darksamuari
May 23, 2008 1:16:05
Character Development boards are over there *points*

Numbers ain't everything...
#13
Endarire
May 23, 2008 1:26:03
Numbers ain't everything...

Words are important too! :D
#14
dirkformica
May 23, 2008 2:26:44
Numbers ain't everything...

/walks into McDonalds: "I'd like to order a Whopper! :P
#15
darksamuari
May 23, 2008 9:38:03 Thematics and flavor are important aspects to a character and I personally try to focus on them during character creation.

This helps all my characters from not ending up being Planar Shepards.
#16
tshern
May 23, 2008 10:08:07
Thematics and flavor are important aspects to a character and I personally try to focus on them during character creation.

This helps all my characters from not ending up being Planar Shepards.

I agree, all Planar Shepherd is not nice. At least I need my fix of Incantatrix/Shadowcraft Mages and Artificers.
#17
darksamuari
May 23, 2008 12:07:10 I've already felt that a great optimizer is able to find a nice balance between making a character powerful and flavorful.

But thats just me.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 hibiscus May 22, 2008 13:05:10	i am in a primarily combat based campaign and my base class is sorcerer. i am very fond of messing around with the combat area and monsters over dealing damage I.E baleful transposition, touch of idiocy. that being said i a torn on what prestige to take i like the ability to carry a bunch of spells around with me that cant be stolen via Scarification and Blood Draught. i also like being able to have more of my most handy spells. however the incatatrix seems very good for abusing spell permanence. i suppose incatatrix would fill the support role more powerfully but blood magus could fill the support role with more spell volume. i know this is a character Optimization board so i know you guys would know the best each could be so i was hoping some one could help me. thanks a ton ^_^ as an aside i am deeply sorry i this is a misplaced post.
#2 mittenninja May 22, 2008 13:08:46	Incantrix: Full caster level progression, amazing abilities. Blood Magus: Lost caster levels, toughness as a prereq, way below average class features. You tell me? While you "have more" to work with the blood magus, you'll actually get WAY more bang for your buck with Incantrix via the lessend metamagic costs, plus you won't slow you spell progression, which is vital when you're already behind a wizard.
#3 hibiscus May 22, 2008 13:12:49	that is absolutly true. i missed the caster level loss thanks a ton
#4 gaffer May 22, 2008 13:28:50	INCANTATRIX
#5 Dictum_Mortuum May 22, 2008 14:26:28	INCANTATRIX QFE
#6 eldariel May 22, 2008 14:49:56	QFE E? O I'd understand, and T, but E? Quoted for Efficiency?
#7 Dictum_Mortuum May 22, 2008 15:44:48	emphasis :P
#8 eldariel May 22, 2008 16:21:31	emphasis :P Curses, foiled again!
#9 darksamuari May 22, 2008 21:03:57	I would recommend Blood Magus only if you want a highly thematically flavored character constructed around the concept of blood. If not, than mechanically Incatatrix is stronger.
#10 gaffer May 22, 2008 21:56:07	I would recommend Blood Magus only if you want a highly thematically flavored character constructed around the concept of blood. If not, than mechanically Incatatrix is stronger. Character Development boards are over there points
#11 Endarire May 23, 2008 0:28:19	For a full arcane caster, if you have a choice between Incantatrix and something else, default to Incantatrix: It's hard to beat.
#12 darksamuari May 23, 2008 1:16:05	Character Development boards are over there points Numbers ain't everything...
#13 Endarire May 23, 2008 1:26:03	Numbers ain't everything... Words are important too! :D
#14 dirkformica May 23, 2008 2:26:44	Numbers ain't everything... /walks into McDonalds: "I'd like to order a Whopper! :P
#15 darksamuari May 23, 2008 9:38:03	Thematics and flavor are important aspects to a character and I personally try to focus on them during character creation. This helps all my characters from not ending up being Planar Shepards.
#16 tshern May 23, 2008 10:08:07	Thematics and flavor are important aspects to a character and I personally try to focus on them during character creation. This helps all my characters from not ending up being Planar Shepards. I agree, all Planar Shepherd is not nice. At least I need my fix of Incantatrix/Shadowcraft Mages and Artificers.
#17 darksamuari May 23, 2008 12:07:10	I've already felt that a great optimizer is able to find a nice balance between making a character powerful and flavorful. But thats just me.