Bloodline rules...

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#1

kyprioth

Sep 27, 2009 15:53:52

Where can I find them? I just need a quick answer, and will delete this thread as soon as I see the answer to prevent a comepletly useless thread from taking up space on the boards.


Thank you.

#2

walking_dream

Sep 27, 2009 16:04:00

www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/races/bloodli...

#3

awaken_D_M_golem

Sep 29, 2009 16:45:42

Note - there were lots of debates, about how exactly Bloodlines work. No truly exact answer was forthcoming.


"Similarly, the stunning attacks of a 3rd-level monk with one bloodline level have a save DC equal to 12 (10 + one-half class level) plus her Wisdom modifier, since the bloodline level is treated as if it were a monk class level when calculating the save DC. A 3rd-level monk/3rd-level sorcerer with two bloodline levels would be treated as a 5th-level spellcaster and a 5th-level monk for determining level-based abilities."


This seemed to be the easiest - if you could call it that - rule based way to understand what a Bloodline did. Monk 3 keeps only up to monk 3 class abilities / Sorc 3 keeps only up to sorc 3 abilities / Bloodline 2 adds 2 levels to  pre-existing class abilities only. You are a Monk 5 but with only the Monk 3 abilities , and a Sorc 5 with only the Sorc 3 abiilties. And even then, it's still arguable what happens.


Phoenix00 spotted many tricks, some of which are still Search findable. An attempt at a guide happened, but where did it go ??


 

#4

phaedrusxy

Sep 29, 2009 16:56:05

will delete this thread


If you figure out how to do that, you make sure and let us know, ok? Tongue out

The really abusive bloodline stuff comes from interpretations where you stack the bloodline levels multiple times onto the same thing by multiclassing into things that all progress the same ability.



For example, how much does a greater bloodline increase the caster level of a wizard 5/X5/Y5/Z5, where X, Y, and Z are all prestige classes that progress wizard casting?

#5

kyprioth

Sep 29, 2009 21:05:39

Yeah, I thought I would be able to delete this, but apparently not.


What I am doing is similar, but with a warlock. Say you are a 9 warlock/3 hellfire warlock, and then take bloodline levels after that, your eldritch blast damage would be very high.


6d6 from base warlock, 6d6 from hellfire warlock, not too bad, but not amazing.
Then the bloodline kicks in, and bloodline advances spell like abilities (eldritch blast.) and class abilities. The hellfire warlock's ability is that for each class level, you gain 2d6 to your eldritch blast damage, and there is no cap stated, so 3 extra levels brings that up plus 12d6 damage on your eldritch blast, just from HFW. Then you get a bit more from advancing base warlock and...


Tada! 21d6 damage without magic items or anything. At will.


This gets crazy with infusions, and the metamagic spell like ability feats, not to mention if you have several PrC's that all improve warlock levels or eldritch blast damage.