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Bookless Anima Mage

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#1
BloodDragon
Jul 21, 2008 9:54:52 Long time no see OP boards… Wondering if I can partake in the communal knowledge once again.

Without getting into the full story of why and how. I am about to play an Anima Mage who will be replacing my current character in an ongoing Greyhawk-ish Campaign.

We are starting at level 10 so I was thinking the standard: Wizard 2 / Binder 1 / Anima Mage 7. Using Precocious Apprentice as early entry.
1 - Precocious Apprentice, Metamagic feat?
3 - Improved Binding
6 - Ignore Special Requirement
9 – Metamagic feat?

Now here is the catch: My character is not going to be able to choose his starting items in fact he won’t start with any gold at all, he doesn’t even get to start with a Spellbook!

It’s not all bad however the party treasure actually has a Vestige Phylactery, Implement of Binding, and a Veil of allure (thanks to a previous Binder, from another player). In addition I have been given the option to take the Spell Mastery and Uncanny Forethought(EoE) feats at the cost of flaws. Since I am starting without a spell book I will be taking this offer.

So my questions are this: Which metamagic feats are best for my character? I really wanted to do Extend Spell/Persist spell cheese but given my situation I think Quicken/Empower (or Twin) would be a better options.

Also I’m a little lost on what spells I should start with (through Spell Mastery) assuming my Int will start at 20, what should I be picking up right now? And what should I be aim for first?

This character is going to focus more on the spell casting side… and finding a Spellbook ASAP for the future.

Books books... No Eberron or FR, that's it.

Any advice is appreciated please and thank you.

P.S. Bloodline cheese is sadly not allowed :D, and I'm working on swinging an Arcane Apostle of the Green Lady but I'll have to see how that plays out.
#2
sinfire_titan
Jul 21, 2008 10:00:10 You NEED a spellbook just to use Uncanny Forethought properly. SPell Mastery alone won't cut it, and you can only use UF a number of times per day equal to your Int modifier. Your DM is gimping you considerably. No WBL is also a problem. You may as well use Sorcerer for Anima Mage, as you will need it just to be playable.
#3
BloodDragon
Jul 21, 2008 10:15:44
You NEED a spellbook just to use Uncanny Forethought properly. SPell Mastery alone won't cut it, and you can only use UF a number of times per day equal to your Int modifier. Your DM is gimping you considerably. No WBL is also a problem. You may as well use Sorcerer for Anima Mage, as you will need it just to be playable.

I know Uncanny Forethought is useless without a book, I don't have a choice. It's the "whole deal" with SM or nothing, and It's not like I'll be without a spell book forever. Two/Three game sessions and we'll more then likely get back to town if I don't find one sooner. Can't be thinking of the short term all the time.

But your right. I'll be rather useless off the get go. I wanted to avoid the Sorcerer class but mabye I should give it a second thought.

Thanks for the (really) fast reply. Suggestions for a Metamagic Sorcerer then?

Edit: Oh yeah... We already have a Sorcerer (Blaster) that's why I wasn't picking Sorcerer. Hmn.
#4
sinfire_titan
Jul 21, 2008 10:28:19 PH2 variant that ditches your familiar for reducing the Metamagic cost. Other than that, Twin spell can be more useful than Quicken spell. Grab Repeat if you get Twin spell. Note that you can choose different targets for Twin spell. If you are going for a buffer character, then I'd actually say Reach spell is better for you. If not, then Twin.
#5
avatar_of_kragg
Jul 21, 2008 19:40:20 In complete arcana, there is a spellbook varient that allows you to have tattooed your spells on your skin as opposed into your spellbook. I suggest you pick a few good spells to start off with, and have them tattooed on yourself, then later find a spellbook, then transfer them over.
#6
BloodDragon
Jul 22, 2008 10:53:12
In complete arcana, there is a spellbook varient that allows you to have tattooed your spells on your skin as opposed into your spellbook. I suggest you pick a few good spells to start off with, and have them tattooed on yourself, then later find a spellbook, then transfer them over.

Awesome. That allows me to keep wizard then.

Any good suggestions since I'm limited on spells? I was planning on Battlefield control more then blasting/buffing.

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#1 BloodDragon Jul 21, 2008 9:54:52	Long time no see OP boards… Wondering if I can partake in the communal knowledge once again. Without getting into the full story of why and how. I am about to play an Anima Mage who will be replacing my current character in an ongoing Greyhawk-ish Campaign. We are starting at level 10 so I was thinking the standard: Wizard 2 / Binder 1 / Anima Mage 7. Using Precocious Apprentice as early entry. 1 - Precocious Apprentice, Metamagic feat? 3 - Improved Binding 6 - Ignore Special Requirement 9 – Metamagic feat? Now here is the catch: My character is not going to be able to choose his starting items in fact he won’t start with any gold at all, he doesn’t even get to start with a Spellbook! It’s not all bad however the party treasure actually has a Vestige Phylactery, Implement of Binding, and a Veil of allure (thanks to a previous Binder, from another player). In addition I have been given the option to take the Spell Mastery and Uncanny Forethought(EoE) feats at the cost of flaws. Since I am starting without a spell book I will be taking this offer. So my questions are this: Which metamagic feats are best for my character? I really wanted to do Extend Spell/Persist spell cheese but given my situation I think Quicken/Empower (or Twin) would be a better options. Also I’m a little lost on what spells I should start with (through Spell Mastery) assuming my Int will start at 20, what should I be picking up right now? And what should I be aim for first? This character is going to focus more on the spell casting side… and finding a Spellbook ASAP for the future. Books books... No Eberron or FR, that's it. Any advice is appreciated please and thank you. P.S. Bloodline cheese is sadly not allowed :D, and I'm working on swinging an Arcane Apostle of the Green Lady but I'll have to see how that plays out.
#2 sinfire_titan Jul 21, 2008 10:00:10	You NEED a spellbook just to use Uncanny Forethought properly. SPell Mastery alone won't cut it, and you can only use UF a number of times per day equal to your Int modifier. Your DM is gimping you considerably. No WBL is also a problem. You may as well use Sorcerer for Anima Mage, as you will need it just to be playable.
#3 BloodDragon Jul 21, 2008 10:15:44	You NEED a spellbook just to use Uncanny Forethought properly. SPell Mastery alone won't cut it, and you can only use UF a number of times per day equal to your Int modifier. Your DM is gimping you considerably. No WBL is also a problem. You may as well use Sorcerer for Anima Mage, as you will need it just to be playable. I know Uncanny Forethought is useless without a book, I don't have a choice. It's the "whole deal" with SM or nothing, and It's not like I'll be without a spell book forever. Two/Three game sessions and we'll more then likely get back to town if I don't find one sooner. Can't be thinking of the short term all the time. But your right. I'll be rather useless off the get go. I wanted to avoid the Sorcerer class but mabye I should give it a second thought. Thanks for the (really) fast reply. Suggestions for a Metamagic Sorcerer then? Edit: Oh yeah... We already have a Sorcerer (Blaster) that's why I wasn't picking Sorcerer. Hmn.
#4 sinfire_titan Jul 21, 2008 10:28:19	PH2 variant that ditches your familiar for reducing the Metamagic cost. Other than that, Twin spell can be more useful than Quicken spell. Grab Repeat if you get Twin spell. Note that you can choose different targets for Twin spell. If you are going for a buffer character, then I'd actually say Reach spell is better for you. If not, then Twin.
#5 avatar_of_kragg Jul 21, 2008 19:40:20	In complete arcana, there is a spellbook varient that allows you to have tattooed your spells on your skin as opposed into your spellbook. I suggest you pick a few good spells to start off with, and have them tattooed on yourself, then later find a spellbook, then transfer them over.
#6 BloodDragon Jul 22, 2008 10:53:12	In complete arcana, there is a spellbook varient that allows you to have tattooed your spells on your skin as opposed into your spellbook. I suggest you pick a few good spells to start off with, and have them tattooed on yourself, then later find a spellbook, then transfer them over. Awesome. That allows me to keep wizard then. Any good suggestions since I'm limited on spells? I was planning on Battlefield control more then blasting/buffing.