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Boomerang ricochet and two with one blow

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#1
scudgod31
Feb 08, 2009 1:41:41 If I were to use the boomerang ricochet feat from RoE would it stack with the Two with one blow feature of the master thrower? In text it appears that it would which could always be flavored as bouncing off of one into the adjacent one back to the original or another adjacent foe. Just asking what you guys thought.
#2
hoffen
Feb 12, 2009 15:33:21 1. I was playing with the same thought a little while back. I don't have an answer, but instead of making my own thread I'll bring this one back to live.

2. Also, as far as I remember you can't sneak attack with ricochet with the boomerang on the second target, but the skiprock and warsling doesn't say. I suppose its the same - yes/no?

3. Is "two with one blow" considered a ricochet in this context? I don't suppose you could sneak attack the second target with TWOB - yes/no?

Cheers!
#3
malkavon
Feb 13, 2009 1:39:12 I don't see why you couldn't use Two with One Blow and Boomerang Ricochet (or Chakram Ricochet from Champions of Ruin, for that matter) together. Based on the wording, it seems reasonable to be able to apply sneak attack with TwOB (Boomering Ricochet specifically mentions it, so I would assume that means that unless it is otherwise stated, you can sneak attack with Two with One Blow).

You could pull off a WoW paladin-style Avenger's Shield move with the above combo, Boomerang Daze and an aptitude shield. Hurl your shield, hopefully dazing anyone you hit. Add in Bloodstorm Blade and Shield Sling and you can potentially hit multiple foes with a maneuver of your choice, force a save vs. daze, and force trip attempts against all of them.

It's a shame you can only TwOB/Boomering Ricochet only adjacent targets. If you went Bloodstorm Blade 10, you could use Blade Storm to attack every foe in range, getting ricochets/TwOB off on any opponents that qualified. Forcing everyone within your weapon range to make (potentially multiple) saves vs. daze and trip attempts is pretty good, all things considered.
#4
hoffen
Feb 14, 2009 14:05:21 Thanks for the reply Malkavon

I guess you are right about the sneak attack.

The build you are talking about seems pretty nasty, even if it's only within 5 ft. Might even consider it very soon hehe ;)

Cheers mate, and thanks!

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#1 scudgod31 Feb 08, 2009 1:41:41	If I were to use the boomerang ricochet feat from RoE would it stack with the Two with one blow feature of the master thrower? In text it appears that it would which could always be flavored as bouncing off of one into the adjacent one back to the original or another adjacent foe. Just asking what you guys thought.
#2 hoffen Feb 12, 2009 15:33:21	1. I was playing with the same thought a little while back. I don't have an answer, but instead of making my own thread I'll bring this one back to live. 2. Also, as far as I remember you can't sneak attack with ricochet with the boomerang on the second target, but the skiprock and warsling doesn't say. I suppose its the same - yes/no? 3. Is "two with one blow" considered a ricochet in this context? I don't suppose you could sneak attack the second target with TWOB - yes/no? Cheers!
#3 malkavon Feb 13, 2009 1:39:12	I don't see why you couldn't use Two with One Blow and Boomerang Ricochet (or Chakram Ricochet from Champions of Ruin, for that matter) together. Based on the wording, it seems reasonable to be able to apply sneak attack with TwOB (Boomering Ricochet specifically mentions it, so I would assume that means that unless it is otherwise stated, you can sneak attack with Two with One Blow). You could pull off a WoW paladin-style Avenger's Shield move with the above combo, Boomerang Daze and an aptitude shield. Hurl your shield, hopefully dazing anyone you hit. Add in Bloodstorm Blade and Shield Sling and you can potentially hit multiple foes with a maneuver of your choice, force a save vs. daze, and force trip attempts against all of them. It's a shame you can only TwOB/Boomering Ricochet only adjacent targets. If you went Bloodstorm Blade 10, you could use Blade Storm to attack every foe in range, getting ricochets/TwOB off on any opponents that qualified. Forcing everyone within your weapon range to make (potentially multiple) saves vs. daze and trip attempts is pretty good, all things considered.
#4 hoffen Feb 14, 2009 14:05:21	Thanks for the reply Malkavon I guess you are right about the sneak attack. The build you are talking about seems pretty nasty, even if it's only within 5 ft. Might even consider it very soon hehe ;) Cheers mate, and thanks!