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Boosting spell DC

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#1
isahn
Apr 08, 2008 5:31:18 I read the FAQ, I looked through the library, I googled the board, but I couldn't find a thread that gave me tips as to how to boost a char's spell DC besides the spell focus and GSF feats. Can someone please point me to one? I refuse to believe that there is none.
#2
phaedrusxy
Apr 08, 2008 12:40:10 Spell Focus Cold + Snowcasting (+ Eschew Materials) from Frostburn

Spell Focus Evil (+ Corrupt Spell, BoVD)

Heighten Spell (maybe with Divine Metamagic)
#3
vicen_korel
Apr 08, 2008 12:46:03 A couple of bardic music feats can do it too. Rage mage (iffy class) can boost DC too.
#4
xoraxx
Apr 08, 2008 12:47:45 Heighten Spell (and similar feats like Improved sigil (krau)/Earth Magic/Sanctum spell) (PhB, RoD, RoS and CArc)
Spell Rehearsal --> feat (RotDragon)
Arcanamoi --> race (MM5)
Sherem-lar sorcery, Sherezem-lar sorcery (sorcerer only) --> feat (Ghostwalk)
Corrupt arcane studies --> feat (Ghostwalk)

Thats all I can remeber from the top of my head, hope it helps.

EDIT:
Spell Focus Cold + Snowcasting (+ Eschew Materials) from Frostburn

Speaking of this one, there is also the aura from Dragon Magic that boosts all your Cold spell DC's by alot (+4 I think, when you have the dragonblood subtype).
#5
banor
Apr 08, 2008 14:42:07 http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1010928

For Necromancer specialist, it's pretty effective
#6
saragon42
Apr 08, 2008 16:58:40 For enchantment and illusion spells (which tend to only target Will saves, necessitating higher DCs to compensate for that inflexibility), there are a couple of good options:

Fey Heritage + Fey Power. Fey Heritage is pretty useless, granting a small bonus to saves vs. certain enchantment effects, but Fey Power grants +1 to both Enchantment and Illusion DCs.

Wild Soul PrC. A good class in its own right despite 9/10 spellcasting progression. At 8th level, you get +1 to Illusion DCs and at 10th level, you get +1 to Enchantment DCs.
#7
secretkld
Apr 09, 2008 18:29:38 If you're a dwarf sorcerer with the 5th lvl substitution and standing on earth . . . Not a great option but it doesn't cost a feat. Of course you'd have to play a dwarven sorcerer and this isn't an un-optimization board.

Why would anybody want to play a dwarf sorcerer?!
#8
zarzak
Apr 09, 2008 18:43:23 Check out my enchanter's handbook for lots of way to boost spell DCs.
#9
bauglir
Apr 09, 2008 19:23:56
If you're a dwarf sorcerer with the 5th lvl substitution and standing on earth . . . Not a great option but it doesn't cost a feat. Of course you'd have to play a dwarven sorcerer and this isn't an un-optimization board.

Why would anybody want to play a dwarf sorcerer?!

A Gold Dwarf sorcerer, on the other hand, would be quite awesome and still qualify. +2 Con, -2 Dex? Sign me up!
#10
adslahnit
Apr 10, 2008 0:16:20
Arcanamoi --> race (MM5)

I can't find this race anywhere in the Monster Manual V, and Google doesn't turn anything up. Where is this "arcanamoi" race?
#11
wih
Apr 10, 2008 0:51:13 Circle Magic.
Leadership+Cooperative Spell.
Elemental Savant, for your element.
#12
vilenatas
Apr 10, 2008 0:55:47 Fatespinner(Complete Arcane) Class Feature(on a limited basis)
Auspician(Faiths and Pantheons) Class Feature
#13
vicen_korel
Apr 10, 2008 1:00:59 Luckstealer PrC out of Races of Wild.
#14
wih
Apr 10, 2008 1:02:39 Also, consider lowering the opponent's save rather than increasing the DC - Touch of Idiocy and Mind Fog for Will Saves, Ray of Clumsiness for Reflex etc etc.
#15
vicen_korel
Apr 10, 2008 1:04:20 Dark companion alt feature for hexblades *PHB2* for save lowering.

Luckstealer does it to on top of DC raising.
#16
xoraxx
Apr 10, 2008 2:57:14
I can't find this race anywhere in the Monster Manual V, and Google doesn't turn anything up. Where is this "arcanamoi" race?

Well I'm AFB atm (@ school) but its under a different heading (like all the demons are under one heading for example) in the MM5 (cant remember where though). Its basically a 4 hd 4LA monstrous humanoid which automatically gains 4th lvl sorcerer casting. And after casting a spell he gains a +1 bonus to spell DC's, +2 Deflection bonus to AC and +2 to spell damage for a minute. And the effect stacks 5 times.

So after 5 spells you would have +5 DC, +10 AC, +10 Spell damage. Still the LA is a killer but I like the race. Seems a good combo for Spell Rehearsal.

EDIT:I think I misremembered the name of the race, its Arkamoi under the Ushemoi Heading.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 isahn Apr 08, 2008 5:31:18	I read the FAQ, I looked through the library, I googled the board, but I couldn't find a thread that gave me tips as to how to boost a char's spell DC besides the spell focus and GSF feats. Can someone please point me to one? I refuse to believe that there is none.
#2 phaedrusxy Apr 08, 2008 12:40:10	Spell Focus Cold + Snowcasting (+ Eschew Materials) from Frostburn Spell Focus Evil (+ Corrupt Spell, BoVD) Heighten Spell (maybe with Divine Metamagic)
#3 vicen_korel Apr 08, 2008 12:46:03	A couple of bardic music feats can do it too. Rage mage (iffy class) can boost DC too.
#4 xoraxx Apr 08, 2008 12:47:45	Heighten Spell (and similar feats like Improved sigil (krau)/Earth Magic/Sanctum spell) (PhB, RoD, RoS and CArc) Spell Rehearsal --> feat (RotDragon) Arcanamoi --> race (MM5) Sherem-lar sorcery, Sherezem-lar sorcery (sorcerer only) --> feat (Ghostwalk) Corrupt arcane studies --> feat (Ghostwalk) Thats all I can remeber from the top of my head, hope it helps. EDIT: Spell Focus Cold + Snowcasting (+ Eschew Materials) from Frostburn Speaking of this one, there is also the aura from Dragon Magic that boosts all your Cold spell DC's by alot (+4 I think, when you have the dragonblood subtype).
#5 banor Apr 08, 2008 14:42:07	http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1010928 For Necromancer specialist, it's pretty effective
#6 saragon42 Apr 08, 2008 16:58:40	For enchantment and illusion spells (which tend to only target Will saves, necessitating higher DCs to compensate for that inflexibility), there are a couple of good options: Fey Heritage + Fey Power. Fey Heritage is pretty useless, granting a small bonus to saves vs. certain enchantment effects, but Fey Power grants +1 to both Enchantment and Illusion DCs. Wild Soul PrC. A good class in its own right despite 9/10 spellcasting progression. At 8th level, you get +1 to Illusion DCs and at 10th level, you get +1 to Enchantment DCs.
#7 secretkld Apr 09, 2008 18:29:38	If you're a dwarf sorcerer with the 5th lvl substitution and standing on earth . . . Not a great option but it doesn't cost a feat. Of course you'd have to play a dwarven sorcerer and this isn't an un-optimization board. Why would anybody want to play a dwarf sorcerer?!
#8 zarzak Apr 09, 2008 18:43:23	Check out my enchanter's handbook for lots of way to boost spell DCs.
#9 bauglir Apr 09, 2008 19:23:56	If you're a dwarf sorcerer with the 5th lvl substitution and standing on earth . . . Not a great option but it doesn't cost a feat. Of course you'd have to play a dwarven sorcerer and this isn't an un-optimization board. Why would anybody want to play a dwarf sorcerer?! A Gold Dwarf sorcerer, on the other hand, would be quite awesome and still qualify. +2 Con, -2 Dex? Sign me up!
#10 adslahnit Apr 10, 2008 0:16:20	Arcanamoi --> race (MM5) I can't find this race anywhere in the Monster Manual V, and Google doesn't turn anything up. Where is this "arcanamoi" race?
#11 wih Apr 10, 2008 0:51:13	Circle Magic. Leadership+Cooperative Spell. Elemental Savant, for your element.
#12 vilenatas Apr 10, 2008 0:55:47	Fatespinner(Complete Arcane) Class Feature(on a limited basis) Auspician(Faiths and Pantheons) Class Feature
#13 vicen_korel Apr 10, 2008 1:00:59	Luckstealer PrC out of Races of Wild.
#14 wih Apr 10, 2008 1:02:39	Also, consider lowering the opponent's save rather than increasing the DC - Touch of Idiocy and Mind Fog for Will Saves, Ray of Clumsiness for Reflex etc etc.
#15 vicen_korel Apr 10, 2008 1:04:20	Dark companion alt feature for hexblades PHB2 for save lowering. Luckstealer does it to on top of DC raising.
#16 xoraxx Apr 10, 2008 2:57:14	I can't find this race anywhere in the Monster Manual V, and Google doesn't turn anything up. Where is this "arcanamoi" race? Well I'm AFB atm (@ school) but its under a different heading (like all the demons are under one heading for example) in the MM5 (cant remember where though). Its basically a 4 hd 4LA monstrous humanoid which automatically gains 4th lvl sorcerer casting. And after casting a spell he gains a +1 bonus to spell DC's, +2 Deflection bonus to AC and +2 to spell damage for a minute. And the effect stacks 5 times. So after 5 spells you would have +5 DC, +10 AC, +10 Spell damage. Still the LA is a killer but I like the race. Seems a good combo for Spell Rehearsal. EDIT:I think I misremembered the name of the race, its Arkamoi under the Ushemoi Heading.