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#1 songnsilence Apr 19, 2008 19:01:54	Druid 20 or druid10/PlanarS10 may be best, but i'm trying to get the most versatile Druid possible without sacrificing too much power. So, here is my Phrenic Illumian Arcane Hierophant with Divine Metamagic & Aberrant Wildshape... Arcane Aberrant Psi-Hierophant CL Druid 22 (ioun stone, tatoo) or 26 (prayer beads), 9th lvl spells CL Wizard 19(ioun stone, tattoo) or 20 (if i had the money for 1 ring of arcane power), 6th lvl spells WS Druid 23 (18class +1 beast set + 4 wildshape amulet), Aberrations, gain ex. Attacks & Qualities AnimalC Druid 18 + wizard 11 familiar abilities (int, speak, touch spells, SR) Psion CL 20, via Phrenic (25Powers using ~400PP) Aeshkrau+Wildshape trick INSANE # of spells: Druid: 11/11/10/10/9/9/8/7/6 Wizard: 12/12/11/10/9/8 via Aeshkrau, persistent bite+dire polar bear Divine Metamagic: Persistent All the beautiful stuff a focused conjurer/ abrupt jaunter can do Problems low bab of 11@lvl 19 (12@lvl 20, fractional 13@19, 14@20) loss of 2 Druid levels (or 3 until Phrenic Template is away ) but Companion could be fixed by Natural Bond (didn't use it however) Caster level is fixed by Krau, Practiced Spellcaster (and further increased with ioun stone, prayer bead, tatoo Spells/day are no problem Phrenic Template should be gone at 17-18, so lvl 20 is reasonable Example lvl 14 Arcane Aberrant Psi-Hierophant Thoon Elder Brain (MM5 121) Form naked (no items, just 6 spells used: Enhanced Wildshape, Bite o.t. Wbear, G.Magic Fang, 3xtatoo) Melee: 8 tentacles + 31 each (1d6+19+2d6 acid), reach 10 AC: 34 [10 -1 size +3 Dex + 15 natural(creature) + 7enh natural(p.Bite)] HP: 166, fast healing 10 SR: 26 Special: Dual Action (1 mental + 1 physical action turn) 1 mile telepathy Druid CL 15 6th spells, Wizard CL 14 4th spells immunities, immediate teleport 10' The boosts with equipment and spell use would bring this little bugger to a challenge level of 25+ (e.g. AC: g.luminous +8 armor, force screen +7 shield, +5 insight defensive precognition, +deflection + wisdom (belt) etc...) Another very nice option is the Will O Whisp starting at lvl 11 (natural invisibility, magic immunity, perfect flight, high AC) Nice Stuff: Extended Persistent Bite + Strong Wildshape before sleep + Aeshkrau => Bonus Spells as if WIS and INT was ~ 50+ ! or/and Extended Persistent Owls Insight => WIS 44 (Bonus Spells, Monk Belt) Many Aberrations have an insane amount of attacks with very good ex abilities, e.g. the 12hd UROPHION with Extraction (strand+bite+grapple = dead, as in brain removal dead) If Assume Supernatural Ability is allowed, Aberration Wildshape is utterly completely broken. E.g. pick Eye Rays from Overseer => 13 Eye Rays + 8 Tentacles + 3 Bites (LoM). But Aberration WS is still awesome without Su Abilities... The build in detail Show Race Illumian (Krau, AeshKrau) STR 8 -> 8 DEX 8 -> 8 CON 8 +6 base ->14 (+4 tome -> 18) INT 8 +8 base + 2 phrenic ->18 (+6 enhancement + 4 tome -> 28) WIS 8 +8 base + 2 phrenic ->18 (+5 tome + 5 lvl + 6 enhancement -> 34) CHA 8 +6 base + 4 phrenic ->18 (+6 enhancement -> 24) 1 Cloistered Cleric - Aberration Blood(LoM), (Turn Undead 3+Cha) Domain Preparation-> (Extended Spell) Domain Undead-> (Extra Turning¹) Domain Knowledge-> All Knowledge Skills = Class Skills race (Sigil Krau) flaw1 - Persistent Spell flaw2 - Divine Metamagic: Persistent Spell 2 Druid 3 Druid - Improved Sigil: Krau race Sigil AeshKrau 4 Druid 5 Druid 6 Druid - Natural Spell 7 Druid 8 Wizard (Focused Specialist: Conjuration (CM), Abrupt Jaunt(PHB2)) 9 Arcane Hierophant³ - Aberration Wild Shape(LoM)² 10 AH 11 AH 12 AH - Feat 13 AH 14 AH 15 AH - Feat 16 AH 17 AH 18 AH - Feat 19 Druid (20 Druid) ¹ Not required, Cha 18 from lvl 1 -> 7xturn@first level ² really broken stuff :D ³ Wiz2 Spells requirement via Imp. Krau Base Wizard: 6/6/6/5/4/3 Base Druid: 5/5/5/5/4/4/3/2/1 Normal Druid: 8/8/8/8/6/6/5/4/2 Normal Wizard: 9/8/8/7/6/4 best lvl 19 Str 35 Wildshape + Extended Persistent Bite of the Wearbear -> 51 Str = Bonus Spell Base ... Druid: 10/9/9/9/8/7/6/5/4 ... Wizard: 11/10/10/9/8/7 best lvl 20 Str 39 Wildshape + Extended Persistent Bite of the Wearbear -> 55 Str = Bonus Spell Base ... Druid: 11/11/10/10/9/9/7/7/6 ... Wizard: 12/12/11/10/9/8 Saves: 10/5/16 (lvl20 11/5/17)
#2 awaken_D_M_golem Apr 20, 2008 13:22:22	LA buy-off gets rid of the +2 from phrenic by about level 17 or 18, so I'd go ahead with level 20. Druid has Mystic Theurge and Arcane Hierophant as a possibility, but I don't know the details. Clo Cle has Divine Power on it's list, so an item of it would help BAB.
#3 songnsilence Apr 20, 2008 17:45:27	@awaken_D_M_golem Mystic Theurge: Yes, that build would be a pure spellcasting build, like Dru3/Wiz1/MT6/AH10 for lvl 17 Wiz and lvl 19 Dru spellcasting. However, i really love the druids Wildshape and Animal Companion, which both get a very strong hit this way. Divine Power: As an item it would have a rather short duration (max rounds/level), would be great if i could get it as the 2nd Divine Metamagic Persistent spell... --- I looked at my books and found the following Aberration Shapes, anyone know good ones from Fiend Folio, Monsters of Faerun, Oriental Adventures, Serpent Kingdoms, Sandstorm... Aberration Shapes: Show Elan (XPsi 196) 1HD, medium base race Ixitaxachitl, vampiric (MM2 129) 2HD, small ... ex: fast healing 5 Howler Wasp (MM4 74)¹ 2-8HD Skum (MM1 228)¹ 2HD Larval Flayer (CPsi)¹ 2HD, tiny Kython (BoVD 179) 2-18HD, ok stats Mindshredder (MM3 102)¹ 2-13HD Lurking Strangler (MM3 100)¹ 2HD, tiny Grik (MM1 139) 4 tentacles + 1 bite 2HD, medium, 14str 14dex 11con. +4 natural. ex: DR10/magic, darkvision, scent Thought Eater (XPsi 211)¹ 3HD, small Anguillian (Storm 136) 2 pincers + 1 bite, 3HD, medium, 15str 14dex 15con, +4 natural, attach, blood drain. ex: DV 90, speak with eels, landwalking, light blindness, fire vulnerability Carrion Crawler (MM1 30) 8 tentacles(no dam, paralysis) + 1 bite, 3HD, large, 14str 15dex 14con, +6 natural, paralysis. ex: DV, scent Choker (MM1 34) 2 tentacles, 3HD, small, str16 dex14 con13, +4 natural, imp. grab, constrict. ex: darkvision Fihyr (MM2 100) 1 bite, 4HD, small, 7str 16dex 10con, +3 natural, frightful presence. ex: sunlight vulnerability, SR 10, DV Folugub (XPsi 197) 1 melee touch tongue+liquifycrystal + 1 bite, 4HD, medium, 10str 17dex 17con, +5 natural, liquify crystal ex: DV, scent Meenlock (MM2 146) 2claws+paralysis, 4HD, tiny, 6str 13dex 10con, paralysis. ex: telepathy 300, DV Glibbering Mouther (MM1 126) 6 bites +1 spittle+blindness, 4HD, medium, 10str 13dex 22con, +8 natural, spittle, imp. grab, blood drain, engulf. ex. amorphous, dr5/bludge, darkvision 60 Etheral Filcher (MM1 104)¹ 5HD, medium Neogi, Adult (MM2 159)¹ 5HD Cursed Cold One (Sand 145) 1slam+cold, 5HD, medium, 14str 18dex 11con, +6 natural, heat sucking claw. ex: DV, immunity fire, vulnerability cold, heat reliant Dustblight (Sand 160) 1 bite + 2 claws, 5HD, medium, 20str 17dex 12con, +7 natural. ex: low light vision, tremorsense Runehound (MM3 145) 1 bite or 1 ranged vile spew, 5HD, medium, 20str 14dex 17con, +4 natural, vile spew. ex: DR5/silver, extended reach, fast healing 3 Grell (MM2 121) 10 tentacles+paralyzation +1 bite, 5HD, medium, 12str 15dex 14con, +4 natural, imp. grab, paralysis. ex: blindsight 60, flight, immunity electricity & poison, tentacle regeneration Rust Monster (MM1 216) 1 antennae touch + 1 bite, 5 HD, medium, 10str 17dex 13con, +5 natural, rust; ex: DV, scent Harpoon Spider (MM3 80) 1 bite+poison or ranged 2 fangs+harpooning, 5HD, large, 17str 19dex 18con, +3 natural, harpooning, poison(dex). ex: DV 120, evasion, spines, web movement Ettercap (MM1 106) 1 bite+poison +2 claws, 5HD, medium, 14str 17dex 13con, +1 natural, poison (Dex), web. ex: low-light vision Wyster (MM2 200) 7 tentacle rakes, 5hd, huge, 22str 13dex 20con, +9 natural, bite, imp. grab. ex: blindsight 120, acid immunity Gauth (MM1 26)¹ 6HD Catoblepas (MM2 41) 1 tail slam+stun, 6hd, huge, 26str 13dex 21con +10 natural, stun. ex: DV, scent Otyugh (MM1 204) 2 tentacles + 1 bite, 6HD, large, 11str 10dex 13con, constrict, disease, imp. grab. ex: darkvision, scent Drider (MM1 89) weapon(s) + 1 bite+poison, 6HD, large, 15str 15dex 16con, +6 natural, poison (str). ex: darkvision, SR 11+HD Cloaker (MM1 36) 1 tail + 1 bite, 6HD, large, 21str 16dex 17con, +7 natural, moan, engulf. ex: darkvision Intellect Devourer (XPsi 202) 4 claws, 6HD, small, 13str 21dex 15con, +5 natural. ex: DR10/adamantine, immunity to fire, SR 23, electricity resistance 15, vulnerability to protection from evil, blindsight Morkoth (MM2 152)¹ 7HD Mimic (MM1 186) 2 slams, 7HD, large, 19str 12dex 17con, +5 natural, adhersive, crush. ex: mimic shape, acid immunity, darkvision Psurlon (MM2 171)¹ 7HD Vivisector (MM5 200) 2 claws + 1 sting+poison, 7HD, medium, 15str 18dex 14con, +6 natural, augmented critical, vivisection ex: immunity vs sonic, DV, deaf, unnatural biology Dharculus (PlanarHB 112) 6 tentacles, 8HD, medium, 12str 14dex 20con, +10 natural, etheral bite, imp. grab. ex: dualplanar , SR 20 Aboleth (MM1 9) 4 tentacles+slime, 8HD, huge, str26, dex12, con20, +7 natural, slime. ex: mucus cloud, darkvision Destrachan (MM1 49) 2 claws, 8HD, large, 18str 12dex 16con, +8 natural. ex: blindsight 100, sonic protection, immunity: gaze, visual, illusion Umber Hulk (MM1 249) 8HD, large Temporal Filcher (XPsi 210) 4 claws + 1 bite +1 horn, 8HD, large, 13str 17dex 14con, +3 natural, imp. grab. ex: DV Mind Flayer (MM1 187) 4 tentacles, 8HD, medium, 12str 14dex 12con, +3 natural, imp. grab, extract. ex: SR 17+HD, telepathy 100 Shadow Flayer (MM5 107) 4 tentacles, 8HD, medium, 12str 16dex 14con, +3 natural, poison?(str), impr. grab, extraction ex: poison use, telepathy 100, SR 25, DV Dread Harpoon Spider (MM3 80) 1 bite+poison or ranged 2 fangs+harpooning 9HD, huge, 25str 17dex 23con, +9 natural, harpooning, poison(dex). ex: DV 120, evasion, spines, web movement Otyugh, Lifeleech (MM3 119) 4 tentacles + 1 bite, 9HD, large, 27str 16dex 23con, +4 natural, +4 deflection, imp. grab, constrict ex: DV, fast healing 5 Darktentacles (MM2 54) 9 slams or melee, 9HD, large, 19str 15dex 17con, +7 natural, constrict, imp. grab ex: DV, enhanced multiweapon fighting, tentacle regeneration, tremorsense, weapon use Will O Whisp (MM1 255) 1 shock touch, 9HD, small, fly 50(perfect), 1str 29dex 10con, +9 deflection ex: natural invisibility, immune to magic, DV Roper, Prismatic (MM3 141) 4 tentacles+poison, 9HD, large, 22str 15dex 17con, +11 natural, poison(dex), hypnotic coloration. ex: DV, tremorsense Quarphon (MM3 128)¹ 9HD, large Sussurus (MM3 170)¹ 9HD, large Stonesinger (MM3 168) 1 bite+poison + 6 claws, 9HD, large, 20str 10dex 18con, +12 natural, poison (dex) ex: DR5/magic, DV 120 Avolakia (MM2 28) 1bite+poison + 8 claws , 10HD, large, 19str 16dex 17con, +6 deflection, poison (wis). ex: regeneration 4 (fire, acid, elecricity), fire resistence 10, DV, SR 10+HD Hook Horror (MM2 126) 2 claws + 1 bite, 10HD, large, 24str 17dex 14con, +10 natural, imp. grab, power sunder, rending bite. ex: blindsight, light sensitivity Seryulin (MM3 148) 2 slams+paintoxin + 1 bite, 10HD, large, 20str 12dex 14con, +10 natural, pain toxin, sticky spray. ex: slick, amphibious, cant be tripped, blindsense 30, DR5/piercing and slashing, DV, acid resistance 10 Madcrafter of Thoon (MM5 114) 1 bite+acid, 10HD, huge, 30str 10dex 26con, +12 natural ex: fast healing 5, acid immunity, DV, telepathy 100 Rot Reaver (MM3 142)¹ 10HD, medium Beholder (MM1 26)¹ 11HD Lodestone Marauder (MM4 90)¹ 11HD, large Uchuulon (Storm 163) 2 claws, 11HD, large, 18str 12dex 14con, +8 natural, constrict, paralytic tentacles, imp. grab. ex: amphibious, DV, poison immunity, SR 16, protective slime Chuul (MM1 35) 2 claws, 11HD, large, str20 dex16 con18, +10 natural, constrict, imp. grab, paralytic tentacles. ex: amphibious, darkvision 60, poison immunity Thoon Elder Brain (MM5 121) 8 tentacles+acid, 12HD, large, 26str 14dex 30con, +15 natural, dual action, acid burn, combat reflexes. ex: immunity acid&fear, SR 26, fast healing 10, DV, telepathy 1 mile Thought Slayer (XPsi 212) 1 bite, 14 HD, huge, 26str 13dex 21con, +14 natural ex: SR 21, DV Athach (MM1 21) 3 arms + 1 bite, 14HD, huge, str26, dex13, con21, +8 natural, poison (str). ex: darkvision Phasm (MM1 208)¹ 15HD Delver (MM1 39) 2slams+acid, 15HD, huge, str27 dex13 con21, +15 natural, corrosive slime. ex: shape stone, acid immunity, tremorsense 60, darkvision 60 Shrieking Terror, Five Headed (MM3 154) 5 bites+poison, 15HD, medium, 13str 18dex 15con, +7 natural, poison (unable to heal), Pounce. ex: DV, fast healing 5 Balhannoth (MM4 15) 2 slam + 1 bite, 15HD, large, 28str 17dex 23con, +9 natural, imp. grab, constrict. ex: camouflage, DR15/magic, SR18, immune vs. gaze & illusion & visual, dweomersight 120 Greater Fihyr (MM2 100) 4 bites, 16HD, medium, 11str 14dex 12con, +6 natural, frightful presence. ex: invisibility, SR 18, DV Julajimus (MM2 133) 1 bite + 2 claws, 16HD, Huge, 28str 15dex 20con, +12 natural. ex: enchantment immunity, sunlight vulnerability, DV, DR10/magic, fire resistance 10 Moonbeast (MM2 149) 10 tentacle rakes, 18HD, huge, 30str 15dex 21con, constrict, bite, imp. grab. ex: all-around-vision, SR22, DV Windghost (MM2 198) 1bite, 18HD, huge, 28str 23dex 18con, +7 natural, imp. grab, swallow whole. ex: fast healing 3, flight, immunity air and wind Odopi (MM3 114) 1?! claw or 4 stones, 20HD, huge, 25str 23dex 25con, +14 natural, imp. grab, swallow whole, throw stones, trample. ex: all-around-vision, fast healing 7, DR10/good and magic, resistance cold & fire 10, DV, scent, SR 22 Necrothane (MM3 143)¹ 20HD, medium Shrieking Terror, Five Headed (MM3 154) 10 bites+poison, 20HD, large, 21str 16dex 19con, +12 natural, poison (unable to heal), Pounce. ex: DV, fast healing 10 Etheral Defiler (MM5 54) 2 claws + 1 tail, 22HD, large, 27str 22dex 24con, +16 natural, ex: DR10/cold iron, DV, blindsense, SR 29, resist cold&fire 20 Neothelid (XPsi 204) 4 tentacle rakes, 25HD, gargantuan, 30str 7dex 27con, +24 natural, imp. grab, swallow whole, ex: blindsight 100, SR 25, DR5/- Spirrax (MM5 166) 26HD, gargantuan - epic... FF Ahuizotl (FF 14) 1 tail hand + 1 bite, 7HD, large, 21str 14dex 14con, +6 natural, blinding strike, drowning, imp. grap. ex: DV Chwidencha (FF 34) 4 leg rakes, 12 HD, large, 22str 17dex 20con, +9 natural, constrict, imp. grab. ex: DV. tremorsense, leg regeneration, sonic vulnerability Darkweaver (FF 38) 4 tentacle rakes + 1 bite, 9HD, medium, 17str 18dex 12con, +8 natural +4 deflection, imp. grab, ex: DR5/magic, fast healing 3, SR 16, all-around-vision, DV, tentacle regeneration, sunlight vulnerability Ethergaunt (FF 64)¹ 5-16HD, medium ex: total vision 40 Maulgoth (FF 123) 4 tentacles + 1 bite, 20 HD, huge, 29str 25dex 27con, +24 natural, constrict, etheral jolt, imp. grab ex: xorn movement, tremorsense, DV, perfect climbing, DR15/magic adamantine, Ocularon (FF 132) 4 tendrils, 12HD, large, fly 90 (perfect), 18str 15dex 17con, +10 natural, steal eyes, imp. grab, death throes. ex: DR10/magic, regeneration 4 (silver and keen), acid&poison immunity, DV, blindsight 80, all-around-vision Phiuhl (FF 135) 2 heat touches (fire), 9HD, large, 11str 20dex 19con, +2 natural, death gas(con), dessicate(2neg levels), heat aura. ex: gaseous form, inscrutable mind, acid&fire&poison immunity, DR10/magic, SR21, electricity resistance 20, DV Rukanyr (FF 144) 1 slam+stun + 6 claws + 3 bites+poison, 7HD, large, 21str 7dex 24con, +15 natural, poison(dex), stunning strike ex: fast healing 5, reflexive sunder, sonic immunity, stablilty, DV Skybleeder (FF 155) 3 claws + 8 tentacles+acid, 12HD, huge, 26str 17dex 18con, +11 natural, constrict, imp. grab. ex: acid immunity, no discernable anatomy, regeneration 5(fire&force), DV Slasrath (FF 158) 1 sting+poison, + 1 bite 8HD, large, 21str 14dex 19con, +6 natural, poison(str+dex,con), wing slash. ex: DV Spectral Lurker (FF 158) 2tentacles + 1 bite, 16HD, huge, -str 27dex 21con, +4 deflection, imp. grab, constrict. ex: DR15/magic, DV, blindsight, all-around-vision, SR28, immune to cold & electircity & sonic, [incorporal subtype] Tunnel Terror (FF 179) 2 tentacle slaps, 18HD, huge, 28str 15dex 20con, +8 natural, engulf, suffocating constriction. ex: DV, tremorsense Yuan-Ti Anathema (FF 193) 2 claws + 6 bites+poison, 22HD, huge, 27str 13dex 29con, +20 natural, constrict, poison(con), imp. grab. ex: acid&poison immunity, DR15/good and magic, electricity& fire resistance 10, regeneration(adamantine,force) 5, SR26, scent, DV, all-around-vision Frost Chilblain (Frost 114) 1 tail+cold + 4 claws+cold, 20HD, large, 28str 17dex 24con, +23 natural, cold aura, frost touch. ex: DR15/silver, DV 120, fast healing 10, immunity cold&paralysis&poison, SR 29, vulnerability to fire Malasynep (Frost 142) 1 bite + 1 slam, 8HD, huge, 25str 14dex 19con, +7 natural, imp. grab, swallow whole. ex: amphibious, DV, immunity cold, vulnerability fire Shivhad (Frost 152) 6 bites + 3 claws, 24HD, gargantuan crush. ex: DR15/epic, SR 34, DV, immunity cold, vulnerability fire Snowcloak (Frost 153) 1 tail slap + 2 bites + 2 wing claws+poison, 4HD, large, 14str 16dex 17con, +5 natural, poison(dex,paralysis). ex: DV, immunity cold&disease&poison, vulnerability fire, regeneration(fire,acid) 2, LoM Hive Mother (LoM 135) 1 bite, 20HD, huge, 24str 14dex 22con, +25 natural, improved grab, swallow whole ex:flight, all-around-vision, DV Director (LoM 137) 3 tentacles + 1 bite, 8HD, large ex: all-around-vision, DV, SR16, flight Eye of the Deep (LoM 138)¹ 12HD, large Overseer (LoM 139) 8 tentacles + 3 bites, 14HD, large, 22str 13dex 22con, +14 natural, constrict, imp. grab. ex: Fungus, SR23, all-around-vision, DV Spectator (LoM 140)¹ 4HD, medium Cildabrin (LoM 141) 2 pincers + 1 tailstinger+poison, 11HD, large, 24str 17dex 21con, +7 natural, constrict, poison(str), imp. grab. ex: DV, tremorsense Cloaker, Shadowcloak Elder (LoM 142) 10HD, huge ... template+sorc levels Elder Brain (LoM 144) 4 tendrils+extract, 26HD, large, 13str 13dex 38con, +20 natural, extract, imp. grab. ex: blindsight 240, DR15/adamantine, bud brain golem, regeneration(sonic,acid) 10, resistance cold&fire 10, SR34, Hound of the Gloom (LoM 153) 1 bite + 2 claws + 2 tentacle rakes+poison, 12HD, large, 22str 15dex 24con, +13 natural, poison(dex), pounce, imp. grab. ex: DV, scent Embrac (LoM 154) 4 tentacles+poison + 1 bite, 11HD, large, 18str 8dex 15con, +7 natural, constrict, poison(str), imp. grab. ex: DV Kigrid (LoM 155) 1 bite + 2 claws, 9HD, medium, 18str 13dex 14con, +8 natural, rake+poison, poison(dex), imp. grab. ex: DV, scent Saltor (LoM 156)¹ 5HD, small Mind Flayer, Ulitharid (LoM 158) 2 long tentacles + 4 short tentacles, 12HD, large, 16str 14dex 16con, +5 natural, extract, imp. grab. ex: SR27 telepathy 200 Silthilar (LoM 168) 9HD, fine Urophion (LoM 170) 6 ranged touch strands(drag+weakness) + 1 bite, 12HD, large, 19str 13dex 16con, +14 natural, extraction, weakness(str), drag, strands. ex: DV, low light vision, SR 30, immunity to electricity, resistance cold 10, vulnerability fire, telepathy 100 Zeugalk (LoM 171) 3 tentacles + 2 claws + 1 sting+poison, 16HD, huge, 28str 16dex 26con, +14 natural, augmented critical, pinning, poison(str), imp. grab. ex: DV, low light vision, SR21, immunity poison LEoF Foulwing (LEoF 172) 3bites +2 claws, 6HD, huge, 27str 12dex 20con, +8 natural, blood drain, crush. ex: DV Ixzan (LEoF 177) 1 tail sting+poison + 1 bite, 6HD, medium, 16str 14dex 14con, +4 natural, poison(con). ex: amphibious, DR10/slashing and magic, DV120, SR 16 Phaerim (LEoF 187) 1-19HD, tiny-huge, ex: implant, full vision 120, flight, immune to petrification&polymorph, DR
#4 friendlyfrog Apr 20, 2008 18:19:29	I'd use that Arcane disciple method to get a domain with Divine power on its list, myself. War works, but there are likely better ones out there as well. There are items that boost your Wild shape level. Magic of Faerun has one, there's one from Dragon magazine (no idea what issue), and an item in Complete champion gives at least a small boost. Those should help boosting your Wild shape to the maximum (and over it). I think the Master of Many Forms Bible (should be on Handy links) lists most of the great aberrations you can Wild shape into, and what you'll get from them. You can also get extraordinary special qualities from your Wild shape forms with the spell Enhance wild shape (Spell compendium). There should be a lot of excellent forms with regeneration, for example.
#5 songnsilence Apr 21, 2008 7:24:03	I'd use that Arcane disciple method to get a domain with Divine power on its list, myself. War works, but there are likely better ones out there as well. There are items that boost your Wild shape level. Magic of Faerun has one, there's one from Dragon magazine (no idea what issue), and an item in Complete champion gives at least a small boost. Those should help boosting your Wild shape to the maximum (and over it). I think the Master of Many Forms Bible (should be on Handy links) lists most of the great aberrations you can Wild shape into, and what you'll get from them. You can also get extraordinary special qualities from your Wild shape forms with the spell Enhance wild shape (Spell compendium). There should be a lot of excellent forms with regeneration, for example. Wow ! How could i overlook enhanced wild shape until now ? The Druid Set from CC is great (+1 Druid level for WS, +1WS/Day, swift WS, better natures ally... and cheap! :D ). I think Magic of Faerun is 3.0, otherwise the Wildshape Amulet would be deadly... (perhaps my DM has mercy) Ok, i think i will now update my aberration forms for more books and ex abilities... Thank you for those very good pointers ! --SongNSilence
#6 songnsilence Apr 22, 2008 9:53:27	Items and Spells Items Show Did i miss something ? tome +4 con 110,000 gp tome +4 int 110,000 gp tome +5 wis 137,500 gp => 357,000 gp Neck: Wildshape Amulet (MoF 167, 3.0?): +4HD druid level to WS 40000gp Neck: Collar of Umbral Metamorphosis (ToM) 22,000 gp + 11,000 gp Neck: Hand of the Mage (DMG) 900gp +450gp Neck: Reliquary Holy Symbol (MiC) 1000 gp + 500gp Neck: Wildling Clasps 4000gp Neck: => 79,850gp Head: Hat of Anonymity nondetection, +5hide (MIC) 12,500gp Head: Hat of Disguise, disguise self (SRD) 1,800 gp + 900gp Head: Wis+6 addon (MIC 233, Head, Throat) 36,000 gp Head: Int+6 addon (MIC 233, Head, Face) 36,000 gp Head: Wildling Clasps 4000gp Head: => 127,200 gp Shoulder: Mantle of the beast (CC): WS swift action, +1 enhancment to attacks in WS 18000gp Shoulder: Saves+5 addon (MIC 233, Shoulder, Torso) 25,000 gp Shoulder: Wildling Clasps 4000gp Shoulder: 47,000gp Body: Armor of the beast, melds in WS (CC 135): +1/day WS 26175gp Waist: Monks Belt, in WS only (SRD) 13000gp Waist: Wildling Clasps 4000gp Waist: => 17,000gp Ring1: Ring of Evasion (SRD) 25,000gp Ring1: Ring of adamantine touch (MiC 121): adamantine attacks vs DR (natural/armed) 6000gp +3000gp Ring1: Ring of Sustenance (DMG) 2500gp + 1250gp Ring1: Wildling Clasps 4000gp Ring1: => 41750gp Ring2: Ring of mighty summons (CM 127): summons max HP, duration halfed, 14000gp Ring2: Ring of enduring arcana (CM 127): +4CL vs dispelling, 6000gp +3000gp Ring2: Ring of the beast (CC): summon natures ally x->x+1 8000gp +4000gp Ring2: Wildling Clasps 4000gp Ring2: => 49000gp Slotless: Bead of Karma (divine) CL+4 10min/day (SRD) 20,000 gp Slotless: Orange Prism Ion Stone CL+1 30000gp All: 757,475gp max: 760,000 gp left: 2525gp If i get more money... Retributive Amulet(MiC 121) 9000gp + 4500gp Cha+6 addon (MIC 233 Head, Shoulders) 36,000 gp Deflection, Natural etx.
#7 echilda Apr 22, 2008 10:11:51	Can you use a wilding clasp on a ring? Im AFB but I thought you had to use it to attach something round you, like a cloak or belt?
#8 echilda Apr 22, 2008 10:16:00	Divine Power: As an item it would have a rather short duration (max rounds/level), would be great if i could get it as the 2nd Divine Metamagic Persistent spell... I think you can buy a continuous use item of Divine Power for 53kgp. Its a lot I know. You could also get an item of it at CL20 for 2 mins of Divine Power.
#9 songnsilence Apr 22, 2008 11:49:00	Can you use a wilding clasp on a ring? Im AFB but I thought you had to use it to attach something round you, like a cloak or belt? Well, its "can be attached to any item worn on the body"... so i think one can use it for rings (?). @divine power: Items are somewhat problematic, since i'm in wildshape all day -> problematic usage