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| #1stageverwildeMay 29, 2008 23:11:32 | This ia a build that I've been looking at for a while not that I'ld like some help tuning. One level of barbrian and enough levels of bard to get into war chanter for enough BAB for 4 attacks hopfully. the only two feats that I'm dead set one are extra rage and battle caster. I have thought of dropping war chanter altogether and going Barb 1/ bard 19 and being an angery medium armor wearing bard. Thoughts, comments, concerns? am I just a dumb n00b that wants to do some thing that won't work? BTW: Posting from work don't have the books to look up most of this stuff sorry. ![]() |
| #2kurashuMay 30, 2008 0:24:48 | Probably do something like bard/barbarian/sublime chord/rage mage would be interesting for a bardbarian gish. Top it off with elditch knight or something. Bardic music realy suffers, though. Might be better served with barbarian 1/bard/druid/druid-bard PrC whose name escapes me right now. There's a bard PrC that advances songs in CArc: Seeker of the Song. Barbarian 1/bard/totemist/sublime chord/soulcaster if you have magic of incarnum. Someone else will probably post something a thousand times more useful than this. |
| #3surrealMay 30, 2008 1:11:53 | What books do you have available? Do you want to focus more on singing or do you want to go into Sublime Chord for casting? What level are you starting at? Rage Mage is ok. I would probably do something with Barbarian/Duskblade/Abjurant Champion in that case though. Seeker of the Song is just bad. Stay away from it. I like the idea of tossing in a level (or 5) of Bear Warrior just for the sake of being a singing bear. |
| #4stageverwildeJun 02, 2008 18:19:59 | What books do you have available? Do you want to focus more on singing or do you want to go into Sublime Chord for casting? What level are you starting at? I have all the completes, races (minus ebboron), and most of the other books. most notably book of exalted, nine swords, incarnium, and most of the hero's series (horror, battle, ect... ) I'm willing to throw casting out the window for more sneakyness/angry Great Ax hate. He will focus on melee and song primarily (was thinking of warchanter) This guy is like a battle singer for a barbarian tribe or something the like. who goes into battle singing some song or another and does the typical barbarian thing in a bar (brawling, carousing, ect...) The idea of a singing bear IS hilarious but I'm not sure that it will work by RAW (bears can't really "sing" can they?). |
| #5surrealJun 03, 2008 0:59:23 | I would highly recommend checking out the various ToB threads (there are several in my "handy links") and look up any of the builds that work with the Song of the White Raven feat. It basically combines bard with crusader/warblade levels. Toss on a few levels of Barbarian or anything else along those lines and you're set. And as a note, just because you're the battle singer/leader for a barbarian tribe it doesn't necessarily make you a barbarian (although I'd still consider a level dip of barbarian/bear warrior. Note that you can inspire your troops in many ways, not just music. I think growling and mauling qualifies as inspiration). |
| #6stageverwildeJun 03, 2008 1:45:35 | Are there any other options other than ToB? I don't currently have that book available. Also can some one please send over the bard handbook (Google hates me). Is warchanter worth the 10lvls to invest in or, should I just stick with basic classes? Note that you can inspire your troops in many ways, not just music. I think growling and mauling qualifies as inspiration). Good point but, what perform would that be? It's a touch hard to use that one in a bar too but it makes it easy to figure out how a bear can use inspire courage. |
| #7surrealJun 03, 2008 2:38:28 | Check the "handy links" in my sig. Browse down to the bard section to find the handbook (as well as tons of other stuff). Warchanter is a decent class. If your teammates/followers are built for it, it can be very good. If you have access to the Champions of Valor web enhancement (available online), the paladin harmonius knight sub levels can get you early entry. Whether or not all 10 levels is worth it is dependant on your team and what kind of enemies you face. Something similar in flavour to consider is the Warchief from the Miniatures Handbook. As for the perform skill, as a bear I would say that falls under singing or oratory. In speech a simple mantra or shout could be all that's needed to inspire your troops. As a bear, it's reasonable to assume that your roar would be sufficient to keep them inspired. After all, you're a grizzly mowing down the front lines. |
| #8stageverwildeJun 04, 2008 16:26:17 | Great stuff Surreal but your siggy isn't workin or somethin (it's not visable from here) but I'll deffenitly look into the bear warrior bard if for no other reason than it sounds cool :P |
| #9surrealJun 04, 2008 17:27:51 | You might have signatures turned off in your forum view settings. Here's the link: http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=482636 |