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#1 flay_crimsonwind Apr 06, 2008 0:20:25	I'm trying to work out this character concept that so far I haven't seen done. To complete it, I need the most effective and efficient (means cheap, fast, and plausible) ways of getting fire and acid immunity on a human being. Some have probably caught on. I know of a few, scrolled through crystal keep and the SRD (away from my books, or I'd be scouring them), but I'm looking for any help, since they aren't great ways......... Alright, I know that the following templates grant immunity as listed: Show Voidmind - Acid - +1 LA and hellish roleplay problems Saint - Acid + others - +2 LA, must be good and stuff Half Fire Elemental - Fire - +3 LA Fire-souled - Fire (through fire subtype) - +3 LA
#2 ppaladin123 Apr 06, 2008 0:36:52	Shape soul meld (planar chausible) will give you fire resistance 10 if you are evil or lawful and another 5 for every point of essentia you invest. If you are an azurin (they are humans despite the name) you can boost this a bit.
#3 vicen_korel Apr 06, 2008 0:42:00	Get the Glimmering skin draconic graft. 30 resistance to 1 element and damage reduction 1/magic. Grab some more draconic grafts and the DR goes up. I think the Glimmering skin graft is like 30,000 gp though. Also 2nd level spell Resist Energy is the most useful of all energy resistance spells. It does 10 resistance first at CL 7 it does 20 and at CL 11 it does 30, and lasts for 10 min/level, with no max damage absorbtion.
#4 masterjoda999 Apr 06, 2008 1:23:32	Also, to answer your SR question, as I recall, SR does not stack, just overlaps.
#5 vicen_korel Apr 06, 2008 1:29:48	Energy Resistance from items typically doesn't stack as most items offer enhancement bonuses and enhancement bonuses don't stack with each other (YMMV by DM). Also if you grab a level in sorcerer you can take draconic heritage and the draconic feat that grants energy resistance, followed by the draconic feat that adds hp for every draconic feat you have.
#6 x-codes Apr 06, 2008 3:36:17	Sainted Human Dragon Shaman 9 w/ a Gold totem dragon.
#7 paradox-of-life Apr 06, 2008 5:38:33	Troll Blooded for regen/fire and acid, then add on Voidmind and FireSouled for the added effect of leadership.
#8 flay_crimsonwind Apr 06, 2008 16:31:51	Troll Blooded for regen/fire and acid, then add on Voidmind and FireSouled for the added effect of leadership. 'Xactly, trying to make an immune guy with trollblooded, but like you have displayed, best is at +4 LA, which I dun think my DM will let fly. Plus, I just don't like voidmind. Being enslaved to a brain-sucker, well, sucks. X-codes has given a good flavor and mechanics version, though I have to check up on the specifics. It's a bit late activating too, but hey, ECL 11 isn't terrible to gain immunity to damage. :D
#9 atomickitkat Apr 06, 2008 19:55:46	Blazing Berserker and Frozen Berserker from Sandstorm and Frostburn will get you Fire and Cold Subtypes when Raging.
#10 skydragonknight Apr 06, 2008 20:19:32	Flame's Blessing, 1st level Desert Wind Stance from Tome of Battle. Fire Resistance based on ranks in Tumble. 19+ is immunity. Elemental Savants get Immunity at high levels. Or you could cast the spell that gives energy immunity.
#11 necroramo Apr 06, 2008 21:32:44	If you're willing to wait a while, there's the mantle of the icy/fiery soul spells, which will give you the obvious respective subtype permanently. Level 9 spell, though
#12 x-codes Apr 06, 2008 23:08:52	If you're willing to wait a while, there's the mantle of the icy/fiery soul spells, which will give you the obvious respective subtype permanently. Level 9 spell, though Barring XP/GP costs, that's only 1530 GP to hire someone to cast it for you.
#13 flay_crimsonwind Apr 07, 2008 15:32:11	Noticing lots of ways for fire resistance/immunity, not a lot for acid. I'm not surprised by either. What's really needed is more acid immunities, if anyone knows of any. And I smack myself for not checking the special abilities thread; doing so now, will report if anything there. Because neither feat says that you can't take the other, what do you think the call is on the legality of both Frozen Berserker and Blazing Berserker, which would take out the fire immunity, and cover up the apparent new vulnerability to cold? Can you gain two subtypes? That still leaves acid, but this means it can be pulled off by a melee tank at around level six or seven, which is at least getting lower. Thanks Yekoj Bonded Summoner - Imm. to energy (fire or acid or cold or electricity) and flanking (9th) Risen Martyr - Imm. to acid (4th) Half-Dragon – imm. to 1 element (acid, fire, electricity or cold) & sleep (ECL +3) Saint template – imm. to acid, cold, electricity, & petrification(ECL +2) Thanks again Yekoj.
#14 skydragonknight Apr 07, 2008 18:05:31	I don't have Dungeonscape, but would an Acidborn Aquatic Human cover Acid Immunity?
#15 x-codes Apr 07, 2008 18:14:36	I don't have Dungeonscape, but would an Acidborn Aquatic Human cover Acid Immunity? Acidborn requires either Animal or Magical Beast type, so you need another template inbetween there that changes a Humanoid to a Magical Beast (Animal won't work because of the whole 2 intelligence thing).
#16 Jack_Hartwig Apr 07, 2008 18:25:19	By spell just use 2 Energy Immunities (Wiz 7) spells. Lasts for 24 hours.
#17 flay_crimsonwind Apr 07, 2008 19:41:36	I don't have Dungeonscape, but would an Acidborn Aquatic Human cover Acid Immunity? No LA on Acidborn I believe (one of the two), erego not fit for PCs. Plus, you'd need to shove Shadow in there or something, as stated above. But main problem is that it's not PC ready.
#18 skydragonknight Apr 07, 2008 20:06:23	By spell just use 2 Energy Immunities (Wiz 7) spells. Lasts for 24 hours. Only the most recent casting applies, though. But Fire Immunity is relatively easy to get, so the spell is good to get the more difficult Acid Immunity. That said I prefer Ex Immunities since in one Epic game I played in there was "Antimagic Lava".
#19 skydragonknight Apr 07, 2008 20:13:59	Proposition 1: Jade Phoenix Mage with Energy Immunity spell(Acid) and Flame's Blessing Stance. Proposition 2: Dragon Shaman(any dragon with acid breath weapon) with 1 level of Swordsage or Martial Study + Martial Stance(Flame's Blessing). Martial study gives you Tumble as a class skill forever, so the feat it still useful even if you take the level in Swordsage. At 16th level(19 ranks in Tumble) you're immune to Fire while in the stance.
#20 ChristopherGroves Apr 07, 2008 20:15:52	There's no reason Mantle of the Fiery Spirit (sandstorm) won't work. Permanently gives you the subtype (fire) - duration is instantaneous, so should still work in AMF ... and the druid version is 8.
#21 Nathreet Apr 08, 2008 0:04:40	Sorceror 7. Resist energy and protection from energy all day long. One fire, one acid.
#22 vicen_korel Apr 08, 2008 0:45:19	At what level does Dragon shaman get its immunity? If it's low enough that for black dragon can cover acid.
#23 x-codes Apr 08, 2008 3:29:44	Dragon Shamans get energy immunity at 9th, just like I said. (Well, suggested.)

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flay_crimsonwind

Apr 06, 2008 0:20:25

I'm trying to work out this character concept that so far I haven't seen done. To complete it, I need the most effective and efficient (means cheap, fast, and plausible) ways of getting fire and acid immunity on a human being. Some have probably caught on. I know of a few, scrolled through crystal keep and the SRD (away from my books, or I'd be scouring them), but I'm looking for any help, since they aren't great ways.........

Alright, I know that the following templates grant immunity as listed:

Show

Voidmind - Acid - +1 LA and hellish roleplay problems
Saint - Acid + others - +2 LA, must be good and stuff
Half Fire Elemental - Fire - +3 LA
Fire-souled - Fire (through fire subtype) - +3 LA

ppaladin123

Apr 06, 2008 0:36:52

Shape soul meld (planar chausible) will give you fire resistance 10 if you are evil or lawful and another 5 for every point of essentia you invest. If you are an azurin (they are humans despite the name) you can boost this a bit.

vicen_korel

Apr 06, 2008 0:42:00

Get the Glimmering skin draconic graft. 30 resistance to 1 element and damage reduction 1/magic. Grab some more draconic grafts and the DR goes up. I think the Glimmering skin graft is like 30,000 gp though.

Also 2nd level spell Resist Energy is the most useful of all energy resistance spells. It does 10 resistance first at CL 7 it does 20 and at CL 11 it does 30, and lasts for 10 min/level, with no max damage absorbtion.

masterjoda999

Apr 06, 2008 1:23:32

Also, to answer your SR question, as I recall, SR does not stack, just overlaps.

vicen_korel

Apr 06, 2008 1:29:48

Energy Resistance from items typically doesn't stack as most items offer enhancement bonuses and enhancement bonuses don't stack with each other (YMMV by DM).

Also if you grab a level in sorcerer you can take draconic heritage and the draconic feat that grants energy resistance, followed by the draconic feat that adds hp for every draconic feat you have.

x-codes

Apr 06, 2008 3:36:17

Sainted Human Dragon Shaman 9 w/ a Gold totem dragon.

paradox-of-life

Apr 06, 2008 5:38:33

Troll Blooded for regen/fire and acid, then add on Voidmind and FireSouled for the added effect of leadership.

flay_crimsonwind

Apr 06, 2008 16:31:51

Troll Blooded for regen/fire and acid, then add on Voidmind and FireSouled for the added effect of leadership.

'Xactly, trying to make an immune guy with trollblooded, but like you have displayed, best is at +4 LA, which I dun think my DM will let fly. Plus, I just don't like voidmind. Being enslaved to a brain-sucker, well, sucks.

X-codes has given a good flavor and mechanics version, though I have to check up on the specifics. It's a bit late activating too, but hey, ECL 11 isn't terrible to gain immunity to damage. :D

atomickitkat

Apr 06, 2008 19:55:46

Blazing Berserker and Frozen Berserker from Sandstorm and Frostburn will get you Fire and Cold Subtypes when Raging.

#10

skydragonknight

Apr 06, 2008 20:19:32

Flame's Blessing, 1st level Desert Wind Stance from Tome of Battle.
Fire Resistance based on ranks in Tumble. 19+ is immunity.

Elemental Savants get Immunity at high levels. Or you could cast the spell that gives energy immunity.

#11

necroramo

Apr 06, 2008 21:32:44

If you're willing to wait a while, there's the mantle of the icy/fiery soul spells, which will give you the obvious respective subtype permanently. Level 9 spell, though

#12

x-codes

Apr 06, 2008 23:08:52

If you're willing to wait a while, there's the mantle of the icy/fiery soul spells, which will give you the obvious respective subtype permanently. Level 9 spell, though

Barring XP/GP costs, that's only 1530 GP to hire someone to cast it for you.

#13

flay_crimsonwind

Apr 07, 2008 15:32:11

Noticing lots of ways for fire resistance/immunity, not a lot for acid. I'm not surprised by either. What's really needed is more acid immunities, if anyone knows of any. And I smack myself for not checking the special abilities thread; doing so now, will report if anything there.

Because neither feat says that you can't take the other, what do you think the call is on the legality of both Frozen Berserker and Blazing Berserker, which would take out the fire immunity, and cover up the apparent new vulnerability to cold? Can you gain two subtypes? That still leaves acid, but this means it can be pulled off by a melee tank at around level six or seven, which is at least getting lower.

Thanks Yekoj

Bonded Summoner - Imm. to energy (fire or acid or cold or electricity) and flanking (9th)

Risen Martyr - Imm. to acid (4th)

Half-Dragon – imm. to 1 element (acid, fire, electricity or cold) & sleep (ECL +3)

Saint template – imm. to acid, cold, electricity, & petrification(ECL +2)

Thanks again Yekoj.

#14

skydragonknight

Apr 07, 2008 18:05:31

I don't have Dungeonscape, but would an Acidborn Aquatic Human cover Acid Immunity?

#15

x-codes

Apr 07, 2008 18:14:36

I don't have Dungeonscape, but would an Acidborn Aquatic Human cover Acid Immunity?

Acidborn requires either Animal or Magical Beast type, so you need another template inbetween there that changes a Humanoid to a Magical Beast (Animal won't work because of the whole 2 intelligence thing).

#16

Jack_Hartwig

Apr 07, 2008 18:25:19

By spell just use 2 Energy Immunities (Wiz 7) spells. Lasts for 24 hours.

#17

flay_crimsonwind

Apr 07, 2008 19:41:36

I don't have Dungeonscape, but would an Acidborn Aquatic Human cover Acid Immunity?

No LA on Acidborn I believe (one of the two), erego not fit for PCs. Plus, you'd need to shove Shadow in there or something, as stated above. But main problem is that it's not PC ready.

#18

skydragonknight

Apr 07, 2008 20:06:23

By spell just use 2 Energy Immunities (Wiz 7) spells. Lasts for 24 hours.

Only the most recent casting applies, though. But Fire Immunity is relatively easy to get, so the spell is good to get the more difficult Acid Immunity.

That said I prefer Ex Immunities since in one Epic game I played in there was "Antimagic Lava".

#19

skydragonknight

Apr 07, 2008 20:13:59

Proposition 1: Jade Phoenix Mage with Energy Immunity spell(Acid) and Flame's Blessing Stance.

Proposition 2: Dragon Shaman(any dragon with acid breath weapon) with 1 level of Swordsage or Martial Study + Martial Stance(Flame's Blessing). Martial study gives you Tumble as a class skill forever, so the feat it still useful even if you take the level in Swordsage. At 16th level(19 ranks in Tumble) you're immune to Fire while in the stance.

#20

ChristopherGroves

Apr 07, 2008 20:15:52

There's no reason Mantle of the Fiery Spirit (sandstorm) won't work. Permanently gives you the subtype (fire) - duration is instantaneous, so should still work in AMF ... and the druid version is 8.

#21

Nathreet

Apr 08, 2008 0:04:40

Sorceror 7. Resist energy and protection from energy all day long. One fire, one acid.

#22

vicen_korel

Apr 08, 2008 0:45:19

At what level does Dragon shaman get its immunity? If it's low enough that for black dragon can cover acid.

#23

x-codes

Apr 08, 2008 3:29:44

Dragon Shamans get energy immunity at 9th, just like I said. (Well, suggested.)