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Campaign Smashers III: The stuff that completely breaks the game

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Previous thread found HERE
ancientdragon
Nov 01, 2008 4:48:29

Methodology: Campaign Smashers will provide an index of major combos ever appeared on the CO boards.

Aim: Our aim in creating this thread is to have a confortable index of the builds that everyone should read and/or know. Many of them got lost after the TO board capitolation: we hope that our kind users will help us to rescue them.

Criteria: As the time passes, more and more combos are discovered, so we need to say something clearly:

Furthermore, as Gideon Gideonson did, as many tricks are so powerful that may destroy a game even without infinite values, there'll be a section named "Semi-Smashers" dedicated to all that powerful tricks that need to be remembered.

Credit: By saying all this, I need to say who is the founder of this thread: all its merit goes, in fact, to our beloved LordofProcrastination to have found this thread, and then to Gideon Gideonson because he keeped it alive for a long time.

Format: Divided by level-availability and then alphabetically.
Title of Combo: Executive summary of the combo.
Thread - Author

Full author's relevant post
#2
ancientdragon
Nov 01, 2008 4:49:03 Semi-Smashers: This section is reserved for the assorted combinations and builds which can seriously tip the balance of a game in non-optimized play and give even CO-wary DMs and fellow players a chance to gape in awe. However, these "Semi-Smashers" are less likely to immediately and irrevocably render a campaign unplayable.

Behold!: Through use of Polymorph any Object and Metamorphic Transfer, characters can qualify for Beholder Mage, a kickarse class.
Behold! by LordofProcrastination.

Cheater of Mystra: A build which features top-notch metamagic cleric spellcasting and supernatural spells.
The Cheater of Mystra thread by Funny Slaughter and Neonsamurai.

Explosive Rune Collecting: Explosive runes can be made in large quantities, then exploded all at once with an intentional dispel magic.
A basic explanation by soulbergb.

Follower Casting: Uses Epic Leadership and additional casters to drop immensely high DC spells to easy-to-cast levels.
Followers and Epic Spells by sCRuLooSe.

Hannibal Lector: An invulnerability build using Illithid Savant.
hannibal lector by deathwishjoe.

Little Red Raiding Hood: Trick for creating a powerful dragoon, aka lance-user high-jumper killer.
The Little Red Raiding Hood by Endarire.

Mercantile Background: Using this feat with team resource consolidation, Leadership, or the Thrallherd prestige class results in a significant advantage in gold gain.
Awaiting Write-up or Link (AWOL)
Thrallherd sacrifice version by Vikjunk

Mind Switch: Versatile power that lets you pick and choose bodies and capabilities.
More fun than a barrel of Monkeys by Tleilaxu_Ghola.
Stacking combo explained by Tleilaxu_Ghola.

Multipounce: The Telflammar Shadowlord prestige class plus other teleportation powers to gain multiple full-attacks in a round.
Psionic Shadowlord by DisposableHero_.

Save Game: Create a "Save Game" point that you can return to in case things go badly.
Dirty Trick #5: "Save" Game Mechanics by Tleilaxu_Ghola

Spells as Free Actions: writting your spells on ice cubes, you may cast them as free action.
Immoth Break by Soluphobe

Spell-Level Hijinks: Sanctum Spell and other feats can adjust up or down a spell's effective level, enabling a variety of wily tricks.
Sanctum Spell + Affinity Field by Tleilaxu_Ghola et al.
Miracle at Level 6 by DisposableHero_

The Twice Betrayer: Trick for expanded persistification capability and an invulnerability combo.
The Twice Betrayer of Shar by LordofProcrastination.
#3
ancientdragon
Nov 01, 2008 4:49:33
As you may see, we're trying to rescue the builds that got lost after the TO boards closure.
If you wanna help the COmmunity you may!!
Save Knowledge:Test all the links in our first post! If you find any of them still working, copy the relevant part and post it in this thread formatted as in the first post! Start with the Smashers, and continue with the semi-smashers! WE NEED YOU!
#4
ancientdragon
Nov 01, 2008 4:50:47 Why the hell did you make a duplicate of Champaign Smashers II?
People told me that Gideon Gideonson isn't updating his thread anymore, and LordofProcrastination isn't sure uptading his one. So, because new smashers may come up even if 3.5 is no more so actual, I made this new thread 'cause i've the time to update it.
However, I don't know where champaign smashers are, nor I can digg every single topic in the board, so please, if you know any build that you think may smash a champaign and that is not in our list, please post it here.

Thank you,
AD
#5
tytalus
Nov 01, 2008 6:50:11 There's no link to the thread you took all this from. That's not cool.

Why the hell did you make a duplicate of Champaign Smashers II?
People told me that Gideon Gideonson isn't updating his thread anymore, and LordofProcrastination isn't sure uptading his one. So, because new smashers may come up even if 3.5 is no more so actual, I made this new thread 'cause i've the time to update it.

It's still unclear why a new thread is needed unless there actually is a new "smasher".
#6
ancientdragon
Nov 01, 2008 6:55:56 Well... there is a link. The link links to the thread from wich the thread I took from tooks from.

...Just now repling you I discovered that the link is not working anymore. I'll edit it, I'm sorry.

There are new smashers. Mine and Endarire's one. And I think other will pop up soon.

Edit: cvd, janusjones' infinite damage added
#7
NiteCyper
Nov 01, 2008 17:56:55 You should read through the two Campaign Smashers threads to figure out those builds which weren't posted.

You don't have the Shadowcraft Mage there and the 'Knight of Shadows' (in my sig which will be removed if you post it in this thread) multi-pouncer. I think Chrono-Legionnaire might qualify too.
#8
innabinder
Nov 01, 2008 18:05:24 Please fix the links that don't work by connecting to the original threads through the archive. Thanks.
#9
thompsja
Nov 01, 2008 20:31:03 Can you use True Strike with Persistent Spell?

If so, you can have something game-breaking at first level: Human Sorcerer, with two first-level feats: Extend Spell and Persistent Spell. He could be a Metamagic Sorcerer (PHB2), but it is not necessary.

He casts True Strike with Persistent Spell. If he can do that, on level 2, he starts training as a fighter, to use Power Attack and Cleave, etc, since he's not likely to miss with a +20 insight to every attack roll. If it gets dispelled, he casts again.
#10
muertog
Nov 01, 2008 21:26:14 By the rules set within Persistent Spell, you cannot persist True Strike. True Strike is a spell that discharges upon use, AND has a maximum duration of 1 round. Both are not allowed by Persistent Spell.
#11
ancientdragon
Nov 02, 2008 5:10:17 I quote Muertog, plus this thread is not meant to come up with new build, but just to post links to the ones in other threads... I suggest you to open a new thread if you want to discuss a new combo.
@Inna Binder: Yeah, it is a long work I'm working on it, help is appreciated
@NiteCypher: the shadowcraft mage is an handbook... is there any build in it that i missed? About the second link you gave to me: this is not a smasher, just a very well optimized combo. With "smasher" we intend something more tricky, not just a very good optimization.
#12
khift
Nov 02, 2008 6:13:31 I don't see any broken wine anywhere in this thread....

#13
NiteCyper
Nov 02, 2008 22:25:04
@NiteCypher: the shadowcraft mage is an handbook... is there any build in it that i missed? About the second link you gave to me: this is not a smasher, just a very well optimized combo. With "smasher" we intend something more tricky, not just a very good optimization.

1. My name isn't NiteCypher.
2. Trust me, Shadowcraft Mage is broken (e.g. free Miracles).
3. You have a pouncer on your semi-campaign smasher list, I think Chrono-Legionnaire and Knight of Shadows qualify? (I can't check right now, sorry.)

Edit: Even more smashers in my sig. 'Kill at any distance', 'Death by Awesome at level 3' (Not so much a smasher.), 'Optimizing Arcane Swordsage' because Arcane Swordsage is broken.
#14
Endarire
Nov 02, 2008 23:51:13 Unfortunately, you have a buncha broken links.

Also, there's no 'the' in Little Red Raiding Hood.

I appreciate your continuing this otherwise.
#15
ancientdragon
Nov 03, 2008 9:04:58 Thanks for your appreciatements Endarire.
@NiteCyper: sorry for your name :P
I just going to fully restyle this thread, because I have enaugh of digging archives. When everything will be definitive, I'll take a further look of what you suggested. Just give me a couple of days: if possible post or link builds that are no more available, thanks!
#16
ancientdragon
Nov 03, 2008 9:29:57 Ok, this is the format I'd appreciate: what do you guys think about it? Would be abolutely more ocnfortable, and will mean no more digging threads to find what you're looking for.
EDIT: I'm slowly changing the whole first post applying the new format. I hope you'll like it. I see that a lot of builds are gone! We absolutely need to resque 'em! No one has them saved on his computer?
#17
ancientdragon
Nov 03, 2008 12:42:24 ok it seems that I can't have a message longer than 50.000 characters... How can you go past this? any ideas to save the lost builds?
#18
innabinder
Nov 03, 2008 13:33:48
ok it seems that I can't have a message longer than 50.000 characters... How can you go past this? any ideas to save the lost builds?

Spoilers and multiple posts in which to hold the builds.
#19
tsuyoshikentsu
Nov 03, 2008 14:01:42 You don't have the Shaedling.
#20
ancientdragon
Nov 03, 2008 14:09:56 Tsuyoshikentsu, I'm working on it...
InnaBinder: i've not enaught posts reserved... it would be a TON of characters... you might take a look of my last project..
#21
Endarire
Nov 03, 2008 15:11:53 To fully preserve even the first post of each thread, you'd need at least one post in this thread per build post. This equates to a massive book.

Also, you could probably rescue threads from Google's cache like someone did with UberERcharger.

Finally, why is "Champaign Smashers" pertinent to D&D?
#22
ancientdragon
Nov 04, 2008 11:11:09 The first assumption isn't correct, for not every post takes 50.000 characters.

Yeah, I'm trying to. But my google-fu is limitated tu site searches, and I'm not retrieving much.

Uh?
#23
Endarire
Nov 04, 2008 18:02:19 The post should be "Campaign Smashers" not "Champaign Smashers."
#24
ancientdragon
Nov 05, 2008 8:45:53 Shame on me!
#25
ancientdragon
Nov 06, 2008 15:36:04 News! I digged the first part of the first post: i fixed most of the links. Those still unworking are (at leat for me) unretrievable. See if you can find 'em or repost 'em.
#26
innabinder
Nov 06, 2008 16:09:21 Check the last page of the SurrealDex - I think it's post #435 - for working links to 3 of LoP's Dirty Tricks.
#27
rasmus_wagner
Nov 06, 2008 18:49:03
You don't have the Shaedling.

And this is indeed the thread for it.
#28
ancientdragon
Nov 07, 2008 5:40:41 @InnaBinder: thanks but unfortunately, the one I don't have the link for (#3) is broken in that index too
@Rasmus: I stopped updating the thread for a while, 'coz i'm busy to write it all down to our on-workin .doc. See "The Very Best of CO" thread for further explanations.
#29
innabinder
Nov 07, 2008 7:43:28 No, actually, it's not.
#30
DLoFunk
Nov 07, 2008 8:45:09 LOL!^^^

Sorry guy, but that too is dead.
#31
innabinder
Nov 07, 2008 8:50:12 It consistently comes up correctly every time I open it, whether I've logged out or not beforehand. I really don't know what else to say. I can open the link just fine.
#32
DLoFunk
Nov 07, 2008 10:07:29 Interesting. It didn't work when I replied before, but now it does.
#33
ancientdragon
Nov 07, 2008 11:32:30 Woah! It works! I love you Inna! Thankthanks!
#34
thedragonmaster
Apr 21, 2009 16:46:34 I'm not sure if it constitutes as a smasher, but if instantly destroying the entire universe (a.k.a. playing with Ring Gates or Portable Holes) is deemed worthy, I think the following thread should be added:

Advanced Theoretical Mathematics/Physics in DnD: when calculations attack
#35
wings_of_peace
Apr 22, 2009 15:14:17 Didn't there used to be an alternate working Monty link? It was ages ago so I lost it but some time ago someone pointed out a forum database where the thread still existed. That's how I originally read about it.
#36
innabinder
Apr 22, 2009 17:46:51 Here's Monty, by psly4mne :D
#37
dr_rocktopus
Apr 22, 2009 18:28:14 Do you suppose the Buildomancer merits a place here? I mean, once he goes off, the campaign world is unplayable without divine intervention.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Previous thread found HERE ancientdragon Nov 01, 2008 4:48:29	Methodology: Campaign Smashers will provide an index of major combos ever appeared on the CO boards. Aim: Our aim in creating this thread is to have a confortable index of the builds that everyone should read and/or know. Many of them got lost after the TO board capitolation: we hope that our kind users will help us to rescue them. Criteria: As the time passes, more and more combos are discovered, so we need to say something clearly: Furthermore, as Gideon Gideonson did, as many tricks are so powerful that may destroy a game even without infinite values, there'll be a section named "Semi-Smashers" dedicated to all that powerful tricks that need to be remembered. Credit: By saying all this, I need to say who is the founder of this thread: all its merit goes, in fact, to our beloved LordofProcrastination to have found this thread, and then to Gideon Gideonson because he keeped it alive for a long time. Format: Divided by level-availability and then alphabetically. Title of Combo: Executive summary of the combo. Thread - Author Full author's relevant post
#2 ancientdragon Nov 01, 2008 4:49:03	Semi-Smashers: This section is reserved for the assorted combinations and builds which can seriously tip the balance of a game in non-optimized play and give even CO-wary DMs and fellow players a chance to gape in awe. However, these "Semi-Smashers" are less likely to immediately and irrevocably render a campaign unplayable. Behold!: Through use of Polymorph any Object and Metamorphic Transfer, characters can qualify for Beholder Mage, a kickarse class. Behold! by LordofProcrastination. Cheater of Mystra: A build which features top-notch metamagic cleric spellcasting and supernatural spells. The Cheater of Mystra thread by Funny Slaughter and Neonsamurai. Explosive Rune Collecting: Explosive runes can be made in large quantities, then exploded all at once with an intentional dispel magic. A basic explanation by soulbergb. Follower Casting: Uses Epic Leadership and additional casters to drop immensely high DC spells to easy-to-cast levels. Followers and Epic Spells by sCRuLooSe. Hannibal Lector: An invulnerability build using Illithid Savant. hannibal lector by deathwishjoe. Little Red Raiding Hood: Trick for creating a powerful dragoon, aka lance-user high-jumper killer. The Little Red Raiding Hood by Endarire. Mercantile Background: Using this feat with team resource consolidation, Leadership, or the Thrallherd prestige class results in a significant advantage in gold gain. Awaiting Write-up or Link (AWOL) Thrallherd sacrifice version by Vikjunk Mind Switch: Versatile power that lets you pick and choose bodies and capabilities. More fun than a barrel of Monkeys by Tleilaxu_Ghola. Stacking combo explained by Tleilaxu_Ghola. Multipounce: The Telflammar Shadowlord prestige class plus other teleportation powers to gain multiple full-attacks in a round. Psionic Shadowlord by DisposableHero_. Save Game: Create a "Save Game" point that you can return to in case things go badly. Dirty Trick #5: "Save" Game Mechanics by Tleilaxu_Ghola Spells as Free Actions: writting your spells on ice cubes, you may cast them as free action. Immoth Break by Soluphobe Spell-Level Hijinks: Sanctum Spell and other feats can adjust up or down a spell's effective level, enabling a variety of wily tricks. Sanctum Spell + Affinity Field by Tleilaxu_Ghola et al. Miracle at Level 6 by DisposableHero_ The Twice Betrayer: Trick for expanded persistification capability and an invulnerability combo. The Twice Betrayer of Shar by LordofProcrastination.
#3 ancientdragon Nov 01, 2008 4:49:33	As you may see, we're trying to rescue the builds that got lost after the TO boards closure. If you wanna help the COmmunity you may!! Save Knowledge:Test all the links in our first post! If you find any of them still working, copy the relevant part and post it in this thread formatted as in the first post! Start with the Smashers, and continue with the semi-smashers! WE NEED YOU!
#4 ancientdragon Nov 01, 2008 4:50:47	Why the hell did you make a duplicate of Champaign Smashers II? People told me that Gideon Gideonson isn't updating his thread anymore, and LordofProcrastination isn't sure uptading his one. So, because new smashers may come up even if 3.5 is no more so actual, I made this new thread 'cause i've the time to update it. However, I don't know where champaign smashers are, nor I can digg every single topic in the board, so please, if you know any build that you think may smash a champaign and that is not in our list, please post it here. Thank you, AD
#5 tytalus Nov 01, 2008 6:50:11	There's no link to the thread you took all this from. That's not cool. Why the hell did you make a duplicate of Champaign Smashers II? People told me that Gideon Gideonson isn't updating his thread anymore, and LordofProcrastination isn't sure uptading his one. So, because new smashers may come up even if 3.5 is no more so actual, I made this new thread 'cause i've the time to update it. It's still unclear why a new thread is needed unless there actually is a new "smasher".
#6 ancientdragon Nov 01, 2008 6:55:56	Well... there is a link. The link links to the thread from wich the thread I took from tooks from. ...Just now repling you I discovered that the link is not working anymore. I'll edit it, I'm sorry. There are new smashers. Mine and Endarire's one. And I think other will pop up soon. Edit: cvd, janusjones' infinite damage added
#7 NiteCyper Nov 01, 2008 17:56:55	You should read through the two Campaign Smashers threads to figure out those builds which weren't posted. You don't have the Shadowcraft Mage there and the 'Knight of Shadows' (in my sig which will be removed if you post it in this thread) multi-pouncer. I think Chrono-Legionnaire might qualify too.
#8 innabinder Nov 01, 2008 18:05:24	Please fix the links that don't work by connecting to the original threads through the archive. Thanks.
#9 thompsja Nov 01, 2008 20:31:03	Can you use True Strike with Persistent Spell? If so, you can have something game-breaking at first level: Human Sorcerer, with two first-level feats: Extend Spell and Persistent Spell. He could be a Metamagic Sorcerer (PHB2), but it is not necessary. He casts True Strike with Persistent Spell. If he can do that, on level 2, he starts training as a fighter, to use Power Attack and Cleave, etc, since he's not likely to miss with a +20 insight to every attack roll. If it gets dispelled, he casts again.
#10 muertog Nov 01, 2008 21:26:14	By the rules set within Persistent Spell, you cannot persist True Strike. True Strike is a spell that discharges upon use, AND has a maximum duration of 1 round. Both are not allowed by Persistent Spell.
#11 ancientdragon Nov 02, 2008 5:10:17	I quote Muertog, plus this thread is not meant to come up with new build, but just to post links to the ones in other threads... I suggest you to open a new thread if you want to discuss a new combo. @Inna Binder: Yeah, it is a long work I'm working on it, help is appreciated @NiteCypher: the shadowcraft mage is an handbook... is there any build in it that i missed? About the second link you gave to me: this is not a smasher, just a very well optimized combo. With "smasher" we intend something more tricky, not just a very good optimization.
#12 khift Nov 02, 2008 6:13:31	I don't see any broken wine anywhere in this thread....
#13 NiteCyper Nov 02, 2008 22:25:04	@NiteCypher: the shadowcraft mage is an handbook... is there any build in it that i missed? About the second link you gave to me: this is not a smasher, just a very well optimized combo. With "smasher" we intend something more tricky, not just a very good optimization. 1. My name isn't NiteCypher. 2. Trust me, Shadowcraft Mage is broken (e.g. free Miracles). 3. You have a pouncer on your semi-campaign smasher list, I think Chrono-Legionnaire and Knight of Shadows qualify? (I can't check right now, sorry.) Edit: Even more smashers in my sig. 'Kill at any distance', 'Death by Awesome at level 3' (Not so much a smasher.), 'Optimizing Arcane Swordsage' because Arcane Swordsage is broken.
#14 Endarire Nov 02, 2008 23:51:13	Unfortunately, you have a buncha broken links. Also, there's no 'the' in Little Red Raiding Hood. I appreciate your continuing this otherwise.
#15 ancientdragon Nov 03, 2008 9:04:58	Thanks for your appreciatements Endarire. @NiteCyper: sorry for your name :P I just going to fully restyle this thread, because I have enaugh of digging archives. When everything will be definitive, I'll take a further look of what you suggested. Just give me a couple of days: if possible post or link builds that are no more available, thanks!
#16 ancientdragon Nov 03, 2008 9:29:57	Ok, this is the format I'd appreciate: what do you guys think about it? Would be abolutely more ocnfortable, and will mean no more digging threads to find what you're looking for. EDIT: I'm slowly changing the whole first post applying the new format. I hope you'll like it. I see that a lot of builds are gone! We absolutely need to resque 'em! No one has them saved on his computer?
#17 ancientdragon Nov 03, 2008 12:42:24	ok it seems that I can't have a message longer than 50.000 characters... How can you go past this? any ideas to save the lost builds?
#18 innabinder Nov 03, 2008 13:33:48	ok it seems that I can't have a message longer than 50.000 characters... How can you go past this? any ideas to save the lost builds? Spoilers and multiple posts in which to hold the builds.
#19 tsuyoshikentsu Nov 03, 2008 14:01:42	You don't have the Shaedling.
#20 ancientdragon Nov 03, 2008 14:09:56	Tsuyoshikentsu, I'm working on it... InnaBinder: i've not enaught posts reserved... it would be a TON of characters... you might take a look of my last project..
#21 Endarire Nov 03, 2008 15:11:53	To fully preserve even the first post of each thread, you'd need at least one post in this thread per build post. This equates to a massive book. Also, you could probably rescue threads from Google's cache like someone did with UberERcharger. Finally, why is "Champaign Smashers" pertinent to D&D?
#22 ancientdragon Nov 04, 2008 11:11:09	The first assumption isn't correct, for not every post takes 50.000 characters. Yeah, I'm trying to. But my google-fu is limitated tu site searches, and I'm not retrieving much. Uh?
#23 Endarire Nov 04, 2008 18:02:19	The post should be "Campaign Smashers" not "Champaign Smashers."
#24 ancientdragon Nov 05, 2008 8:45:53	Shame on me!
#25 ancientdragon Nov 06, 2008 15:36:04	News! I digged the first part of the first post: i fixed most of the links. Those still unworking are (at leat for me) unretrievable. See if you can find 'em or repost 'em.
#26 innabinder Nov 06, 2008 16:09:21	Check the last page of the SurrealDex - I think it's post #435 - for working links to 3 of LoP's Dirty Tricks.
#27 rasmus_wagner Nov 06, 2008 18:49:03	You don't have the Shaedling. And this is indeed the thread for it.
#28 ancientdragon Nov 07, 2008 5:40:41	@InnaBinder: thanks but unfortunately, the one I don't have the link for (#3) is broken in that index too @Rasmus: I stopped updating the thread for a while, 'coz i'm busy to write it all down to our on-workin .doc. See "The Very Best of CO" thread for further explanations.
#29 innabinder Nov 07, 2008 7:43:28	No, actually, it's not.
#30 DLoFunk Nov 07, 2008 8:45:09	LOL!^^^ Sorry guy, but that too is dead.
#31 innabinder Nov 07, 2008 8:50:12	It consistently comes up correctly every time I open it, whether I've logged out or not beforehand. I really don't know what else to say. I can open the link just fine.
#32 DLoFunk Nov 07, 2008 10:07:29	Interesting. It didn't work when I replied before, but now it does.
#33 ancientdragon Nov 07, 2008 11:32:30	Woah! It works! I love you Inna! Thankthanks!
#34 thedragonmaster Apr 21, 2009 16:46:34	I'm not sure if it constitutes as a smasher, but if instantly destroying the entire universe (a.k.a. playing with Ring Gates or Portable Holes) is deemed worthy, I think the following thread should be added: Advanced Theoretical Mathematics/Physics in DnD: when calculations attack
#35 wings_of_peace Apr 22, 2009 15:14:17	Didn't there used to be an alternate working Monty link? It was ages ago so I lost it but some time ago someone pointed out a forum database where the thread still existed. That's how I originally read about it.
#36 innabinder Apr 22, 2009 17:46:51	Here's Monty, by psly4mne :D
#37 dr_rocktopus Apr 22, 2009 18:28:14	Do you suppose the Buildomancer merits a place here? I mean, once he goes off, the campaign world is unplayable without divine intervention.