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| #1vglcatDec 03, 2008 20:48:13 | i was thinking one day what if you had a dancing invisible un-kill-able spellcaster'o'doom? think of the possibillities!!!:D |
| #2reisDec 03, 2008 20:51:47 | http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1017351 check it out dude! |
| #3vglcatDec 03, 2008 21:10:17 | what about the ghost and wizard part??? ![]() |
| #4ChristopherGrovesDec 03, 2008 21:16:33 | Tack on 5 more LA to one of the builds in the Pixie handbook. Seriously though ... you're looking at 9 LA. The answer is "No ... you can not make a decent wizard with 9 LA". 9 LA means that when you're casting 1st level spells, the other folks are throwing around 5th. It means at 17th they are slinging 9th level spells and you're sitting pretty at ... 4th. It means at 20th level you have 11 hit dice and the cleric has 20 ... one misplaced holy word and you're gone for good. 9 LA is a bit much to swallow, and harsher still for casters. |
| #5vglcatDec 03, 2008 21:35:10 | I grow sad![]() ![]() ![]() |
| #6vglcatDec 03, 2008 21:39:55 | wait what about a ghost pixie? also what mm is a solaris in??? |
| #7vglcatDec 03, 2008 21:52:14 | after my last post i reilized 9 was a little high but what about a broken shapeshifter (race not wild shape or momf ect.).... also this tread really needed a better name......... |
| #8phaedrusxyDec 03, 2008 21:54:05 | Yes, I can. A wizard 17 can Shapechange into a ghost pixie. The end. |
| #9vglcatDec 03, 2008 22:07:35 | and the manual of monsters in witch a solaris is located would be mister smarty pants?:P |
| #10malkavonDec 03, 2008 23:03:47 | and the manual of monsters in witch a solaris is located would be mister smarty pants?:P If you mean the Solar, it's in the Monster Manual pg. 12, under Angels. |
| #11DeAnnoDec 04, 2008 3:43:38 | Well, if you wanna be an ECL 20 Ghost Pixie, there's really only one way it's gonna work, and that's Telekinesis. And it'll be GOOD too, just watch. Ghost Pixie = LA 9 You get Incorporeality and GI, which makes you pretty much unseeable without True Sight. We'll work on exploiting your hideyness for all it's worth. your total stat adjustments are: Str -4 (This stat is only important for things you encounter on the ethereal plane); Con -; Dex +8; Int +6; Wis + 4; Cha +10 Str is a dump stat, put everything in the other 4. As for class levels, we want to get as much brokenness as we can out of that Cha +10: Rogue 1/Paladin 2/Marshal 1 (Complete Miniatures)/Battledancer 1 (Dungeon Magazine) The rogue is for useful sneaking class skills, the Pally is for Divine Grace (Cha to Saves), the Marshal is for Minor Aura: Art of War (+ Cha to Disarm, Trip, Bull Rush), and the Battledancer gives Cha to AC. If you can't sell the Dancer to your DM, go monk instead for Wis to AC. From here, we go to offense. Note that Paladin has concentration as a class skill. We use this to qualify for Master of the Unseen Hand and we take at least four levels of it (The last ability is kinda crappy). The final two levels are pretty much up to you (more Rogue for the fun skills ain't bad: get your Hide up so you can sneak by pesky people with True Sight!). In summary, we get Telekinesis, at Caster level 12, as an Su (meaning you never have to check SR) from Ghost. You're full attacking with a BaB of +12 (by RAW, Improved caster level doesn't work for Su abilities, for the good reason that they scale themselves), and can use that BaB with your Cha added to make touch attacks for combat maneuvers. Disarm, Trip, and Bull Rush all have insane modifiers due to Cha adding to them twice, and you should be able to do them to pretty much anything. As for Violent Thrust, which you can do every 1d4 rounds, have your party members carry around a collection of greatswords or something to utterly ravage the poor target with. There's more skeeze that can be done with violent thrust, such as using Greater Mighty Wallop (Races of the Dragon) on all the objects, but it isn't truly necessary. Don't forget that your ghost can get gear like a +6 Cha cloak if a party member plane shifts it to the ethereal plane for him. In the end, we actually manage to eat 9 levels of LA, and if the game is at least ECL 18, we still have a quite playable character. |
| #12reisDec 04, 2008 14:50:28 | Yes, I can. A wizard 17 can Shapechange into a ghost pixie. The end. you can shapechange into templated forms? |
| #13vglcatDec 04, 2008 15:00:56 | Well, if you wanna be an ECL 20 Ghost Pixie, there's really only one way it's gonna work, and that's Telekinesis. And it'll be GOOD too, just watch. In the end, we actually manage to eat 9 levels of LA, and if the game is at least ECL 18, we still have a quite playable character. I will now proceed to list the good things that happend because of what you siad. the giko gecko beat up tucan sam some where chuck norris saved the universe wizards recieved a check for 100,000,000 dollars amor games won best game site of the year 400 people started playing dungeons and dragons and billy finally reached the salt. (it was empty thoughe ![]() ):D |
| #14carnivoreDec 04, 2008 15:16:49 | actually Pixies are not allowed to be Ghosts.... notice :Acquired Template that can be applied to any Aberration, Animal, Dragon, Giant, Humanoid, Magical Beast, Monstrous Humanoid, or Plant. Pixies are Fey Types..... thus unable to do it... but Pixie Wizard 17 is still very nice and is great for even a Core only game :D |
| #15vglcatDec 04, 2008 15:22:21 | well carnivore (creator of the pixie guide) you have made me once again depressed. the bright side is this opens a new search for me. a search for a list of all good la races (i'm sorry whisper nomes) and a speically aberitions man aberitions is impossible to spell!![]() |
| #16carnivoreDec 04, 2008 15:55:42 | just stick with Pixie.... they give you everything you need i also have trouble with words like Aberration :D |
| #17vglcatDec 04, 2008 16:10:02 | one thing i have wondered ever since posting on the boards is why do u have a fbi type agent thing mobaber as an avatar? also who's otto? it should be carnivore's magical dance! |
| #18carnivoreDec 04, 2008 16:16:04 | it is the Charismatic Hero type from D20 Modern games :D |
| #19phaedrusxyDec 04, 2008 16:45:48 | you can shapechange into templated forms? Well, it's broken as hell of course, but I think RAW it is legal. assume the form of any single nonunique creature I doubt a pixie ghost is unique. |
| #20acereraklivesDec 04, 2008 16:56:43 | it is the Charismatic Hero type from D20 Modern games I always assumed it was Leorio, a character from an anime I saw back at college. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leorio |
| #21vglcatDec 04, 2008 18:29:36 | hey you know what? i think dungeons and dragons is racist! no really fey can't have templates. thats bulls****! whey the h*ll is that!?!?!? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
| #22snexDec 04, 2008 19:22:32 | how are you going to manipulate material spell components as a ghost? |
| #23vglcatDec 04, 2008 19:23:59 | ghosts can become in-corporeal and corpreal |
| #24vglcatDec 04, 2008 19:24:35 | also did you even read the rest of the thread? |
| #25snexDec 04, 2008 19:28:09 | ghosts can become in-corporeal and corpreal no, they cant. they can stay on the ethereal plane or manifest as an incorporeal creature on the material plane. |
| #26vglcatDec 04, 2008 19:35:08 | that's what i siad. (also see the feats listed in the ghost guide because they explain my logic. search for it. find it.) |
| #27DeAnnoDec 04, 2008 19:35:39 | OK, so a Pixie can't become a Ghost. Directly. MINOR Hurdle; we can do this the hardcore way. Don't worry vglcat, you're gonna have this thing operational at ECL 20 if I have to make your DM's head explode to do it. The bad news, is you have to devote yourself to the cult of the Dragon Below. You can't be Lawful, or Good, which means the following retroactive build changes: The Paladin has to be a Unearthed Arcana Paladin of Slaughter (C/E). If you went Monk instead of Battledancer, you're gonna have to be a Chaotic Monk. (Dragon 335). Lastly, you don't have space in the build for the Rogue level anymore, but don't worry, we can still get Hide as a class skill. Start as a C/E Pixie with +4 LA. Then, take Pally 2/Marshal 1/Battledancer 1. Then, proceed to Dragon 332, devote yourself to the Cult of the Dragon Below, turn to page 45, and take three levels in Aberrant Paragon. At the end of the day, you gain +2 Cha (yay!) and become an Aberration. After this, die, rise as a Ghost, change your type to Undead, and gain +5 LA. From here, take Master of the Unseen Hand 4. You are now ECL 20 with 11 HD, as a Telekinesis-abusing C/E Ghost Pixie with a side of Aberration. Take that, logic and reason. |
| #28vglcatDec 04, 2008 19:43:41 | ![]() YOU DID IT! you actually did it!........ you only broke the laws of physics int the process..... ![]() also would that work? i'm not sure cuz i'd still be fey. or is that as long as your one of those types you can take templates ![]() |
| #29DeAnnoDec 04, 2008 19:45:56 | You would still be a Pixie Ghost. Your type would be Undead (Augmented Aberration (Augmented Fey)). If you have Fey only Feats to take, take them before you reach Aberrant Paragon 3. |
| #30vglcatDec 04, 2008 20:10:57 | You would still be a Pixie Ghost. Your type would be Undead (Augmented Aberration (Augmented Fey)). If you have Fey only Feats to take, take them before you reach Aberrant Paragon 3. i think we need to unleash this undead augmented abberition fey on the boards!:D |