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#1 Chosenofragnarok May 11, 2009 16:08:31	So after digging around for a fighter type.... Was looking at warshaper and saw that the only prerequisites where +4 bab and one of the following. The only one that stood out was the shape changer subtype.... well i took a look at changelings and saw that they had the shape changer subtype. So I relised that they could take there first level of warshaper at 5th. 1 level earlyer then most. Is there any way to abuse this? I can see things like being in an alternate form (seeing as changlings can stay in there new form indefinetly) and as a move action can keep growing more natural weapons. But are there other ways to abuse it?
#2 carnivore May 11, 2009 16:10:13	there are lots of ways .... many have been done..... a search in here will help: http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=482636 :D
#3 Chosenofragnarok May 11, 2009 16:52:48	Thanks carnivore for Reposting. I did a look for Warshaper and a look for changling but didn't come up with any thing? My searching ability sucks though, Could you point me to any in perticular?
#4 ah_andras May 11, 2009 17:45:44	I played a Changeling Monk 6/ Warshaper 4/ Pious Templar and it was a pretty effective character. I also took the monk's Holy Strike acf from Complete Champion.
#5 mister_crowley May 11, 2009 17:52:53	So after digging around for a fighter type.... Was looking at warshaper and saw that the only prerequisites where +4 bab and one of the following. The only one that stood out was the shape changer subtype.... well i took a look at changelings and saw that they had the shape changer subtype. So I relised that they could take there first level of warshaper at 5th. 1 level earlyer then most. Is there any way to abuse this? I can see things like being in an alternate form (seeing as changlings can stay in there new form indefinetly) and as a move action can keep growing more natural weapons. But are there other ways to abuse it? welcome to two years ago
#6 carnivore May 11, 2009 19:54:30	just use the Search feature at the top of this forum..... it will give at least 4 pages of threads that have something to do with Warshaper yes Changelings qualify for early entry into the PrC .... yes the PrC is very handy for certain types of builds ..... and some DMs might allow you to continue growing extra arms as many as you like(many reasonable DMs wont) hope this helps :D
#7 casualgatherer May 11, 2009 22:10:57	You can also get in at 5th level with a Shifter. Its been seen before.
#8 BloodDragon May 11, 2009 22:23:45	Weren't you able to get in with the Druid "Shifter" variant as well.
#9 Chosenofragnarok May 12, 2009 7:56:52	well then I guess im not surprised that others have found it. Retardedly powerfull or just meh?
#10 carnivore May 12, 2009 8:05:35	it isnt either extreme .... it is simply a useful PrC ... usually i will use it for a 2 level dip.... for any character that uses shapechanging abilities(Polymorph, Wildshape,etc....) they give a lot while not impacting on the build too much(you only will lose 2 caster levels) if you are a Martial Character(fighter, Ranger, Paladin,etc...), 4 levels is a great investment, especially if you focus on Unarmed or Natural Attacks :D