I am going to play a cleric. Since it is our fist high-level adventure our DM placed a single-class restriction.
The adventure starts at lvl 9 and goes up to 19
Race: out of PH or FRCS
Class: Cleric
Alignment: any good or any neutral
Ability Scores: 6x 4d6 hence I can't count on high ability stats
Wealth: according to PH for a character of lvl 9 (36'000gp) An item's max value is limited to 1/3 of the characters total wealth.
Party: 1 mage, 1 fighter, 1 rogue, 1 monk, 1 ranger, 1 cleric, 1 cohort (mage)
Role: The clerics should be the party buff. He shall help others where it's most efficient. His is NOT a combat healer (I think clerics have a lot more to offer than that). He can heal between encounters, besides most of the party member have a belt of healing. After buffing up the party he can enter melee in order to support others or he can protect arcane casters while hurling spells himself.
I am looking for:
- feats
- domains
- gear and magical items
- good buffing spells (not the common ones like bull-strength, cat's grace,...)
- anti buffing spells
So far I have ended up with the following:
- race: human
- domains: protection, spell (FRCS)
- feats: scribe scroll (from spell domain), extra turning (PH), protection devotion (CC), divine fortune (PH2)
- gear: fullplate +1, heavy steal-shield +1, heavy mace +1 (adamantine), ring of protection +1, cloak of charisma +1, vest of resistance +1, peripat of wisdom +4, healing belt, magic bedroll, daylight pellets, restful crystal, wand of lesser vigor, wand of cure light wounds, all kind of remove scrolls, scroll of delay death, scroll of revivity
I am thinking about:
- augment summoning (+spell focus, both PH) (is it still a worthy bonus @ such levels and worth 2 feats?)
- touch of healing (CC)
- magic devotion (if my DM allows taking this feat for the spell domain)
The idea behind extra turning is using the turn/rebuke slots for buffing, maybe damage dealing in case no undeads are nearby.
Summed creatures could support the fighter and distracting foes from attacking the mages.
I have no clue if the above is a good idea or totally crap. I am quite new to d&d (my 4th character, all the others are of lower levels) and would appreciate any help and good advice.
Thanks!
I personally like the Gold Dwarf Divine Metamagic type, doing DMM: Persistant up the wazoo!
So this takes place specifically in Faerun? Cause in Faerun, clerics NEED to follow particular gods, there is an issue with being a cleric of an ideal, there, I think...
Yes, its an FR Adventure.
Maybe a human cleric of Gond? Planning and Metal? I believe the faerun version of Metal lets you choose ANY hammer. Choose some exotic two handed hammer that does crazy damage, get divine metamagic - persist spell, (the planning domain helps), persist some awesome buff spells, persist Divine Power and maybe some other group buff spell, maybe even get Power Attack, and go do MASSIVE damage...
can you please help me with the persistent stuff? the description of permanent spell in the PH are very restrictive and my dm is most likely not going to allow any more spells.
Tanks
JaronK
Persistant Lesser Mass Vigor will keep your whole party healed throughout the day, allowing you to focus on everyone else.
JaronK
Lesser Mass Vigor is not on the list working with permanency in the PH. In fact none of the buffing spells is. As I already mentioned my DM does not allow other spells to work with permanency if there is not another official source or some kind of rules describing xp cost and min caster level. Things can get unbalanced with things like that pretty easy.
Lesser Mass Vigor is not on the list working with permanency in the PH. In fact none of the buffing spells is. As I already mentioned my DM does not allow other spells to work with permanency if there is not another official source or some kind of rules describing xp cost and min caster level. Things can get unbalanced with things like that pretty easy.
Persistant, not Permenant.
JaronK
Persistant, not Permenant.
JaronK
Source of Persistant? I can't find such a spell (neither in PH nor SC).
Thank you very much
JaronK
It's a feat in one of the Completes. You'll want to use Divine Metamagic with it, another feat.
JaronK
Thanks!
Does this mean, that one can spend up to 6 turn/rebuke attempts to cast a "Persistent Lesser Mass Vigor" as a 3rd level spell?
If yes, what ways exists to increase the number of turn/rebuke attempts per day beside extra turning, CHA increase, reliquary holy symbol (which is a bad idea since it uses the same body slot as a peripat of wisdom)?
Thanks!
Does this mean, that one can spend up to 6 turn/rebuke attempts to cast a "Persistent Lesser Mass Vigor" as a 3rd level spell?
If yes, what ways exists to increase the number of turn/rebuke attempts per day beside extra turning, CHA increase, reliquary holy symbol (which is a bad idea since it uses the same body slot as a peripat of wisdom)?
Actually it is 1 turn attempt + spell level adjustment, so 7 turns for persisting a spell
Ways to get more turn attempts:
Extra turning
Cha increase
Reliquary Holy symbol (check Magic Item Compendium for how to combine that with a periapt of wisdom, it doesn't cost more)
Night sticks (libris mortis)
Reliquary Holy symbol (check Magic Item Compendium for how to combine that with a periapt of wisdom, it doesn't cost more)
Do you refer to the chapter "adding common item effects"? I am not sure if my DM is going to allow this (usually he is extremely restrictive) I already asked him if he would allow me to wear a peripat of wisdom and a reliquary holy symbol at the same time (i was willing to sacrifice another body slot for it) and he denied.
Actually it is 1 turn attempt + spell level adjustment, so 7 turns for persisting a spell
Most of the divine metamagic abilities cost 3 turn/rebuke attempts. Divine metamagic is quite expensive. It requires more or less to specialize the character solely to this ability otherwise all those feats do not provide a good value. With all the items and feats a character gets a maximum of 14+CHA-Mod turn/rebuke attempts a day.
Otherwise this divine metamagic stuff is great and gives a character quite a few nice options :D
Make yourself Human. Take the Planning and Undeath Domain if you can. (Planning only if you can't take both). Grab Persist & DMM Persist at first level. Take extra turning for all the other feats if you want (or craft wondrous item if you have to). Get a reliquary holy symbol and a nightstick (multiple if your DM will let them stack)
That's 30+ turn attempts without even counting Cha. Enough to persist at least 4 spells. At higher levels, that's really all you need. If you want to break his campaign, build a cheater of mystra, you have everything you need for it... o.O
That's 30+ turn attempts without even counting Cha. Enough to persist at least 4 spells. At higher levels, that's really all you need.
I did oversee that one can take extra turning multiple times. Thank very much for your help! This one should be fun :D
I'd say invest a bit in Pearls of Power. They'll make you more viable in multiple combats and allow you to memorize a diversity of spells to handle more than just buffing.
I believe Persistent Spell is in Complete Arcane, and Divine Metamagic is in Complete Divine.
Blessed Aim (1st lvl, SC)
Blade Brothers (2nd, PH2)
Circle of Prot. Evil (2nd, PH)
Conviction, Mass (3th, SC)
Vigor Lesser, Mass (3th, SC)
Delay Death (4th, SC)
Revenance (4th, SC)
Sheltered Vitality (4th, SC)
Righteous Wrath of the Faithful (5th, SC)
Revivivy (5th, SC)
Death Ward, Mass (8th, SC)
Take divine ward feat from PH2, a must to have if you dont want to be to close from ennemies.
P.S. Multiple stack of Nightstick dont work that was a Sage answer.
I am not exactly sure what the pearls of power do (I am not a native english). As I understood it, one can cast up to two spells on it to "charge" it. Once a day it is possible to cast a spell from the pearl instead of the normal prepared spell list. I think so far I should be right. What is not clear to me is, do the pearls loose the charge or does it keep it? If it keeps it, can one change the stored spell?
P.S. Multiple stack of Nightstick dont work that was a Sage answer.
Sage isn't authority on rules. Whether they stack is still debatable, although the Sage offered a good opinion on it. It's really still in the "Ask your DM" territory.
Thank you all very much for your great help.
I am not exactly sure what the pearls of power do (I am not a native english). As I understood it, one can cast up to two spells on it to "charge" it. Once a day it is possible to cast a spell from the pearl instead of the normal prepared spell list. I think so far I should be right. What is not clear to me is, do the pearls loose the charge or does it keep it? If it keeps it, can one change the stored spell?
Whoa. Okay, here's a simple example of how it works. A cleric casts a second level spell (Cure Moderate Wounds) for example. Now he has expended that spell slot for the day. He'll get it back the next day, normally. Instead, he uses a standard action to activate a second level pearl of power. Now he regains that Cure Moderate Wounds as if he had never cast it and can cast it again. The pearl can be used once per day.
I hope that helps.
Okay, here's a simple example of how it works. A cleric casts a second level spell (Cure Moderate Wounds) for example. Now he has expended that spell slot for the day. He'll get it back the next day, normally. Instead, he uses a standard action to activate a second level pearl of power. Now he regains that Cure Moderate Wounds as if he had never cast it and can cast it again. The pearl can be used once per day.
So basically it allows to use the same spellslot twice a day?
So basically it allows to use the same spellslot twice a day?
Yes.
Does this even work with Persistent Spell? Would the duration not still be limited to 25 rounds?
I fear my DM is not going to allow this
