The rules are: level 5, elf, 9000gp, no Exalted Deeds stuff, roll the stats.
The stats are: 15, 13, 13, 12, 11, 5
I've considered Zen Archery and 5 dex but the AC hit is bothering me. Then I considered 5 Int, but it's rough on the skills.
Can you guys give me a few tips on how to build this guy? If you have pointers on equipment to buy I'd appreciate that too!
Thanks in advance!
That said, I've played an elven cleric archer with a 5 Charisma. As long as you're not planning on (ab)using Divine Metamagic, it should be fine to dump it. I said he had a terrible facial deformity, and that being teased because of it had scarred him emotionally. He was a cleric of Fenmaril Mestarine, and stayed in the wilderness all the time.
13-1 STR
12-1+1 CON <= +1 stat increase
11+2-1 DEX
13+1 INT
15+1 WIS
5-2+1 CHA
(alternatively go with Aquatic Elf from MM (+2 Dex -2 Int), dump Int and invest your single skill point into Concentration)
(or wild elf +2 Str +2 Dex -2 Con -2 Int, keep at least 12 con, dump int)
(consider dragonborn template, +2 Con, -2 Dex)
full plate +1 (2800 gp)
elvencraft dwarvencraft composite +1 STR longbow +1 = ~3000 gp
metamagic rod of extend, lesser 2700 gp
periapt of wisdom 4000 gp
Elf domain - Point Blank Shot
1 Zen archery
3 Rapid Shot or Precise Shot
6 the other shot
I'd dump either cha or int
Dragonborn Wood Elf(+2 Str,-2 Int)
Ranger 2/ Cloistered Cleric 3
Domains:
Elf .................. Point Blank Shot
War ................ Weapon Focus(Composite Longbow)
Knowledge ....... exchange for feat: Knowledge Devotion
13 Str(11 +2 Racial)
13 Dex(13)
12 Con(12)
11 Int(13 -2 Racial)
18 Wis(15 +1 lvl+ 2 amulet)
5 Cha(5)
Feats:
Track(ranger bonus)
Rapid Shot(Ranger bonus)
Knowledge Devotion(Cleric Bonus)
Weapon Focus(Composite Longbow)(Cleric Bonus)
Point Blank Shot(Cleric Bonus)
1st lvl: Zen Archery
3rd lvl: Precise Shot
9000gp to spend:
1350gp Elvencraft Dwarvencraft Composite Longbow(+1 Str)
500gp Misc Arrows
1100gp Mithral Chain Shirt
205gp Darkwood buckler
750gp Healing Belt
750gp Wand of Cure Light Wounds
4000gp +2 Amulet of Wisdom
150gp Light Warhorse(trained)... combat ready and can fight
100gp.. War Pony(trained)... for carrying supplies... combat ready and can fight
75gp...3x Guard Dogs(trained).....trained for various things
Elvencraft
Elvencraft Longbow(RotW p166)
any Longbow (including Composite, Mighty, etc.)
May be used as a Longbow –or– a Quarterstaff. The wielder threatens the squares around himself/herself even if the last use was as a ranged weapon. The bow is not damaged when used as a melee weapon and the wielder may shift
between ranged and melee as part of a Full Round Attack (if desired).
cost +300 gp
any Longbow (including Composite, Mighty, etc.)
May be used as a Longbow –or– a Quarterstaff. The wielder threatens the squares around himself/herself even if the last use was as a ranged weapon. The bow is not damaged when used as a melee weapon and the wielder may shift
between ranged and melee as part of a Full Round Attack (if desired).
cost +300 gp
try this:
Elvencraft Dwarvencraft Composite Longbow(+1 Str)
:D
Visions of two cantankerous crafters with completely different opinions arguing over how to better create the bow. And as always with design by committee, it ends up totally borked and completely useless.
Anyway, I'd probably laugh someone right out of the room if they brought that to the table.
I don't think arbitrary restrictions/commentary on RP fluff specific to campaign worlds has any place here, personally, unless the OP posts it to tell us what he can or can't do.
I think it'll have to be the Int, since the rumour is that there are plenty of undead in the adventure.
Cheers! You've given me plenty to work with!
I don't think arbitrary restrictions/commentary on RP fluff specific to campaign worlds has any place here, personally, unless the OP posts it to tell us what he can or can't do.
Especially since nothing prevents a weapon manufacturer from using both techniques without being of either race.
even then, cha being penalized youd still be able to use divine metamagic, as nothing prevents you of buying extra turning and nightsticks and so on... in the end you just really need 14 turn undead attempts for the 2 most broken persisted spells I can think at the moment, everything else is vanity =P, maybe 21 for three... anyway
I believe you asked for some advice of how to build a cleric archer? as far as I can tell, one (dunno if the best, but a very decent one) of the builds is to go for extend spell, persistent spell, divine metamagic persistent spell and for every 7 turn undead attempts you spend, one of your spells (buffs)will have a duration of 24 hours. Think of divine power: 24 hours per day and many others. Depending of how many t/u attempts you have you can start using them for less useful or conditional buffs: my favourites have to be greater spell immunity, veil of undeath, freedom of movement, and so on...
For domains my favourites are Spell /Animal from a character optimization perspective but it might be not as exciting to play as another type of cleric RP wise. Animal could be scalykind or any other that has Shapechange as a lvl 9th domain spell. Believe me, that spell, when persisted, changes everything. Look at the Gloom in the Epic Level Handbook (i believe its 21 HD) 24 hours per day and youll see what im talking about.
Spell domain gives you access to two of the best spells a cleric could have access to: Anyspell and Greater anyspell. Meaning: Arcane buffs..oh yeah. Last time I checked polymorph is an arcane spell, you would be able to get it (and persist it) when you can cast lvl 6th spells. There's an option to overcome your natural 5 in a stat: Polymorph rewrites your physical scores, so you could very well have Str or Dex 5 (id prefer str) and have a decent one when you poly. I wouldnt choose constitution because polymorph/shapechange are errataed to not give you extra hp based on your new constitution score.
Just some ideas in case you want to go the optimized way. If you are playing on a Forgotten Realms campaing , consider a property of ranged weapons (which name i dont recall currently) that whenever you fire a missile weapon (say a bow) the arrow splits in two and essentially you make the double of attacks per turn. I believe it costs a +3 bonus. Anyway, hope it helps.
5 con + necropolitan is another idea.
This is an amazing idea. Seriously. This one this one this one!
5 con + necropolitan is another idea.
+1 to this. Hard to dump cha as a cleric, and int is always pianful to dump.
If you going necropolitian see if your DM will allow you to be spellstiched.
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As for Necropolitan, the campaign will be undead-havy so that could turn out interesting! If the other cleric in the party turns undead, am I affected automatically? Or does he select 'enemy' undead?
Thanks for the explanation, Goldenbraid! It's all a bit clearer now
As for Necropolitan, the campaign will be undead-havy so that could turn out interesting! If the other cleric in the party turns undead, am I affected automatically? Or does he select 'enemy' undead?
I think you are automatically affected. Although you get turn resistance iirc as a necropolitan AND you cannot be turned by a cleric if you have total cover against them (or you are more than 60ft away) >:D
the Build i gave works great... without Buffing for combat... it is always ready... if it is a "One Off" game, how high do you think you will actually get?
another thing to remember.... Archery is VERY feat intensive.... Extend Spell, Persistant Spell, Divine Metamagic(persistant) ... use up 3 feats.... then you will be spending even more resources to get more Turn Attempts
it is far easier to make a Simple Cleric Archer build without all of that... and it is thematicly better
:D