CO Proverbs (The Result of Boredom)

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#1

bozwevial

May 13, 2008 20:15:18
This is a thread for posting any slogans, mottos, catchphrases, proverbs, or quips on, obviously, character optimization. It could be witty, funny because it's true, or be good advice (maybe even all three). Just post them here and let's increase the number of good quotes floating around.

Here's a few to get you started:

You can't spell Mystic Theurge without Ur(Priest).

Time stops for no man, but Time Stop's for casters.
#2

Endarire

May 13, 2008 20:57:33
Immense power corrupts immensely, but absolute power is actually pretty neat. (Pun-Pun)

I've got more spells than you've got hit points! (Mystic Theurge - Order of the Stick)

There are druids who don't take Natural Spell? (Order of the Stick)

Necromancers: Turning the DM's favorite minions into your Pokemon since 1997.
#3

hogarth

May 13, 2008 21:02:53
If you can balance a tack hammer on your head, then you can head off your foe with a balanced attack.
#4

zorgling25

May 13, 2008 21:25:42
How come no one's brought up the good old:

"Thou shalt not lose caster levels!" -Ten CO Commandments
#5

andyjames

May 13, 2008 21:31:02
Because it is PROVERBS, not COMMANDMENTS ?
#6

archerpwr

May 13, 2008 22:01:53
Mindbender has a second level?
#7

Nox_Noctis

May 13, 2008 22:15:45
If at first you don't succeed, you clearly do not have all of the available source-books.
#8

madgryphon

May 13, 2008 22:34:13
If it ain't broke... give CharOp a couple of minutes with it.
#9

Treantmonklvl20

May 13, 2008 22:39:26
If at first you don't succeed - failure may be your style. (Depair.com)
#10

radicaltaoist

May 13, 2008 22:41:50
[thread=985136]Dulce et decorum est pro alea mori![/thread]
#11

rebel7284

May 13, 2008 23:25:06
Warmages blow goats
#12

xaktsaroth

May 13, 2008 23:32:09
I like mine and RT's combination found here:

http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=15620608&postcount=51
#13

aethios

May 13, 2008 23:39:27
What's RAI?
#14

zorgling25

May 14, 2008 1:15:46
Because it is PROVERBS, not COMMANDMENTS ?

It was of such magnitude that it bore mentioning again. :P
#15

reis

May 14, 2008 3:09:55
"THIS IS MY FIREBALL. THERE ARE MANY LIKE IT, BUT THIS ONE IS MINE. MY FIREBALL IS MY BEST FRIEND. IT IS MY LIFE. I MUST MASTER IT AS I MASTER MY LIFE. MY FIREBALL, WITHOUT ME, IS USELESS. WITHOUT MY FIREBALL, I AM USELESS."

-someone's sig, forget who...play off of Full metal Jacket
#16

phoenix00

May 14, 2008 3:16:13
It looks like you don't have enough prestige classes in their...nvm you are playing a druid.
#17

ieniemienie

May 14, 2008 5:13:23
Alea iacta est (the dice has been thrown)
Aleae iactae sunt (the dice have been thrown)
#18

ejothims

May 14, 2008 7:18:03
[thread=985136]Dulce et decorum est pro alea mori![/thread]

Ha... With my rusty Latin and it's closeness to alia, I had to look up alea, but very nice that.

:D
#19

radicaltaoist

May 14, 2008 8:39:59
Did I get the tense in that sentence right?
#20

ieniemienie

May 14, 2008 9:02:55
Isn't it just the Passive Preasans, thus resulting in Moriri? my Lastin is 4 years old, so I could definately be wrong link
#21

autumn_serene

May 14, 2008 9:05:53
Mindbender has a second level?

Sublime Chord has a third?
#22

tshern

May 14, 2008 9:14:26
Sublime Chord has a third?

Applies to Fighters too. It's weird that WotC published so many classes with 1-4 levels...
#23

insatium

May 14, 2008 9:53:37
Isn't it just the Passive Preasans, thus resulting in Moriri? my Lastin is 4 years old, so I could definately be wrong link

Morior is deponent (passive forms are translated actively, no 'passive' translation exists), so this is correct. For a non-deponent verb, the form in question would be the present active infinitive. As to alea (debate from the other thread), it's correct since this is a macron/long mark free environment.
#24

Wyvernhand

May 14, 2008 10:22:58
I have a tshirt from when I did time in the Engineering Building that says:

"Most people think that if it isn't broke, don't fix it. An engineer knows that if it isn't broke, its simply doesn't have enough features yet."

The same holds true for CO....
#25

ejothims

May 14, 2008 10:41:17
Morior is deponent (passive forms are translated actively, no 'passive' translation exists), so this is correct. For a non-deponent verb, the form in question would be the present active infinitive. As to alea (debate from the other thread), it's correct since this is a macron/long mark free environment.

This.

Though said much better than I could have. :D

As for the motto I'll throw in:

'There's a reason we kill kobolds so early.'
#26

ieniemienie

May 14, 2008 11:27:14
'Goblins make for great cannon fodder.'
#27

aethios

May 14, 2008 11:39:31
"An optimized character does not a game break."

"One intelligently placed class-feature does not make a class. Similarly, a certain circumstance in which a class can be played well does not make a class 'well designed'..."- Aristotle
#28

aethios

May 14, 2008 11:41:09
"Better to rule in RaW than to serve in RaI."- Satan
#29

verenal

May 14, 2008 14:00:30
Ask not "Can I", but "How can I".
#30

bozwevial

May 14, 2008 14:28:29
Gishes: 16 BaB and CL 17 or go home.
#31

aethios

May 14, 2008 15:04:05
Man with no Caster Level better have high initiative...

(Optional ending: "to run from one that does.")

(Optional perception: "Mandatory ending: "to run from one that does.")
#32

llochlyn

May 14, 2008 16:32:58
Gishes: 16 BaB and CL 17 or GTFO

fix'd
#33

archerpwr

May 14, 2008 16:41:53
Gishes: 16 BaB and CL 17 or go home.

Fire Elf Wizard 6/ Swiftblade 10/ Unseen Seer 4
16 bab 16 CL.
#34

xanadu

May 14, 2008 17:48:40
Applies to Fighters too. It's weird that WotC published so many classes with 1-4 levels...

:heehee
#35

logicninja

May 14, 2008 17:55:08
Fire Elf Wizard 6/ Swiftblade 10/ Unseen Seer 4
16 bab 16 CL.

Make that sorcerer 6, swiftblade 9, and screw Unseen Seer what's it doing there besides eating up your skills and giivng -1 non-divination CL, anyway. Abjurant Champion or something.

Wizard Swiftblades have the problem of, well, preparing too many hastes.
#36

archerpwr

May 14, 2008 17:58:51
Make that sorcerer 6, swiftblade 9, and screw Unseen Seer what's it doing there besides eating up your skills and giivng -1 non-divination CL, anyway. Abjurant Champion or something.

Wizard Swiftblades have the problem of, well, preparing too many hastes.

I disagree, but let us not debate here. Perhaps the swiftblade handbook?
#37

rabidpirateman

May 14, 2008 18:25:38
Monkey Grip, Oversized Two Weapon Fighting and Bastard Swords: The perfect solution.
#38

tshern

May 14, 2008 18:29:49
Monkey Grip, Oversized Two Weapon Fighting and Bastard Swords: The perfect solution.

I swear I almost exploded when I read that and thought someone was serious about this. That's when I remembered what thread was I in...
#39

carnivore

May 14, 2008 18:35:35
"I made a Halfling Hurler Build once ...... boy did those Halflings hate him":P

:D
#40

Wyvernhand

May 14, 2008 18:45:05
"I made a Halfling Hurler Build once ...... boy did those Halflings hate him":P

:D

I remember from 2nd ed, someone once dictated that the speed factor of a willing halfling was 3, while the speed factor of an unwilling halfling was more like 7. Gotta love small folk.
#41

carnivore

May 14, 2008 18:52:38
the best thing is:

Unconscious creatures are automatically considered willing,

;)
#42

tshern

May 14, 2008 18:56:49
Yet another variation of dead girls don't say no?
#43

zorgling25

May 15, 2008 16:57:07
Candles of Invocation:
"I wish I may,
I wish I might,
I wish I had more wishes tonight!"
#44

tshern

May 15, 2008 17:07:32
Modified from Blue
#45

Wyvernhand

May 15, 2008 17:07:45
Yet another variation of dead girls don't say no?

Back when I played WoW, there was a guild on our served called

Sad....
#46

larry_the_titan

May 15, 2008 17:12:22
"Oh no!! Its CoDzilla!!!" Done in badly done english with subtitles.
#47

Nox_Noctis

May 15, 2008 19:19:14
Yet another variation of dead girls don't say no?

Yeah, like the poster I saw today that said, "Silence Is Consent." This is why you should never pass out at a party. ;)
#48

Nox_Noctis

May 15, 2008 19:22:01
Modified from Blue
#49

bozwevial

May 15, 2008 19:25:42
And on that same note...

It is better to light one Candle of Invocation than to curse the darkness.

(That's been banging around in my head for days, but it flew away when I sat down to post it earlier.)
#50

drowvampyre

May 15, 2008 19:57:37
CharOp: where the same spell can both locate cities and annihilate all their inhabitants.
#51

eldritch_lord

May 15, 2008 20:11:33
How about:

Remember those kobolds you fought 19 levels ago? They're baaack...and they're maaad!

or:

What is CharOp? A land of mechanical perfection, where the only bugs are those in Hiveminds, the only mistakes are those made by folks who think druids suck, and the only critical failures are made by n00bs that **** PhoenixInferno off.

or maybe:

CharOp: Where the whole of a character is guaranteed to be greater than the sum of its parts, and the hole in a character is guaranteed to be greater than 1 mile/caster level wide.
#52

bozwevial

May 15, 2008 20:29:32
When you find yourself exploding because a badger was thrown at you...When the mere mention of a kobold makes your knees tremble...When a candle snuffs out the world...You know you spend too much time on CharOp.
#53

Nox_Noctis

May 15, 2008 21:35:21
How about:

Remember those kobolds you fought 19 levels ago? They're baaack...and they're maaad!

They're MAD... Just kidding, but they seriously are ****** off. :P
#54

archerpwr

May 15, 2008 22:01:56
"I didn't know crying was a fighter bonus feat," my bro.
#55

autumn_serene

May 15, 2008 22:50:00
Who needs Playboy when you have Druid 20?
#56

Saeviomagy

May 15, 2008 23:28:37
ego reputo proinde ego ledo is per a silicis
#57

ieniemienie

May 16, 2008 2:07:16
ego reputo proinde ego ledo is per a silicis

>> I reflect so that I wound them by means of a pebble?

Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas - Happy is he who has been able to learn the causes of things.
#58

kuroimaken

May 16, 2008 2:09:03
Worst blind man is the one who doesn't want to see... unless not seeing is a class feature.

or

All is fair in love, war, and making your DM cry when he sees your character sheet.
#59

ieniemienie

May 16, 2008 2:13:08
Ancient European saying;

"The PHB is harder than the head" - Anonymous
#60

tsuyoshikentsu

May 16, 2008 2:13:54
To paraphrase something said about me once, "Leave it to CharOP to annihilate everything in existence with a second-level spell."
#61

sinfire_titan

May 16, 2008 13:01:29
To paraphrase something said about me once, "Leave it to CharOP to annihilate everything in existence with a second-level spell."

That's a bit slow, don't you think? Why waste a 2nd level spell when we can find a loop-hole to make it a cantrip?
#62

tshern

May 16, 2008 13:06:26
That's a bit slow, don't you think? Why waste a 2nd level spell when we can find a loop-hole to make it a cantrip?

What would you do with the 2nd level spells then?
#63

sinfire_titan

May 16, 2008 13:14:08
What would you do with the 2nd level spells then?

Glitterdust, Alter Self, Scroching Ray, etc. Use the cantrips to blow up the world, and then have your important spells in the proper slots.

Because everyone knows being prepared is more important than destroyuing the cosmos.
#64

clawhound

May 16, 2008 13:58:24
Optimized characters get optimized trouble.
#65

Nox_Noctis

May 16, 2008 14:07:11
Because everyone knows being prepared is more important than destroyuing the cosmos.

Lies! Lies and deceit! Lies and deceit and trickery! Insidious lies and deceit and trickery! *Runs off ranting about how much fun destroying the universe is*
#66

sinfire_titan

May 16, 2008 14:15:58
Lies! Lies and deceit! Lies and deceit and trickery! Insidious lies and deceit and trickery! *Runs off ranting about how much fun destroying the universe is*

Ah, chaos. Nothing wakes me up in the morning like an internet full of ranting, calamity, and confusion.
#67

nightwyrm

May 16, 2008 14:20:42
If you're healing in combat, you're doing it wrong.

If it ain't broken, you're not trying hard enough.

Most classes are less than 4 levels long.

Most feats aren't worth the ink used to print it.
#68

aelryinth

May 16, 2008 14:25:09
I have to contest the Gish Phrase.

BAB 16, CL 17, and 9th level spells, or go home...

Cause those bards with a fighter level or two still aren't taken seriously...

===Aelryinth
#69

aelryinth

May 16, 2008 14:27:15
If you're healing in combat, you're doing it wrong.

If it ain't broken, you're not trying hard enough.

Most classes are less than 4 levels long.

Most feats aren't worth the ink used to print it.

Most feats AND SPELLS aren't worth the ink used to print them.

===Aelryinth
#70

nightwyrm

May 16, 2008 14:28:22
Most feats AND SPELLS aren't worth the ink used to print them.

===Aelryinth

Quite right. Can't believe I missed that.


Continuing with this line of reasoning...most splatbooks are less than ten pages.
#71

nightwyrm

May 16, 2008 14:34:07
A new one:

You can't roleplay if you're dead.
#72

robbypants

May 16, 2008 14:38:45
For optimization in general:

[INDENT]"Is the glass half full or half empty?"

"It's twice as large as it needs to be."[/INDENT]
#73

eldritch_lord

May 16, 2008 16:19:05
For optimization in general:

[INDENT]"Is the glass half full or half empty?"

"It's twice as large as it needs to be."[/INDENT]

CharOp: Putting 3.629 x 104 gallons of awesome into 2-gallon buckets since 2000.
#74

the_shaman

May 16, 2008 16:24:09
"Simplicity is overrated" - because not even druids get 20 class levels anymore.

"If it has over 2d10 unarmed damage, it's a monk build. If it has at least a level of monk, it's a traditional monk build"

"Power comes at a price, but only a fool equates paying a price with gaining power" - on the RP requirements of paladins.

"There are three kinds of posters at CharOp: the kind that reads the OP's request but doesn't know what to suggest, the kind who knows what to suggest but hasn't read it, and the kind that will point you towards the important links thread"

"If you get enough monkeys with typewriters, they will eventually write a masterpiece. If CharOp gets involved, replace "eventually" with "Within 3 rounds". "
#75

Midnight_v

May 16, 2008 16:39:24
Past a certain level, it doesn't matter. Because if you're not a caster, you're a caster's hoe so your opinion doesn't matter. That or you're dead. And dead people are resurected to serve casters anyway


"Leaving anything to the discretion of the DM is always a bad idea.
Optimization should not rely on being given anything."
-Prototype00
#76

Wyvernhand

May 16, 2008 17:58:33
Ok, rookie, listen to me. I'm a caster, and you are not. Your sole purpose is to follow me around and inflict HP damage upon anything I deem necessary. When I say Power Attack, you ask "HOW MUCH?". Are we clear?

SIR YES SIR!

EDIT:
This is pretty close to something that one character (Killer Gnome) said to my character (melee mutt) at DDXP last Febuary at the Core Special. The whole table was laughing so hard we had to take a break from absolutely slaughtering the mod to catch out breath. Good times were had by all.
#77

Nox_Noctis

May 16, 2008 18:03:38
A new one:

You can't roleplay if you're dead.

Right, so never drink the soda that your DM provides. Bring your own drinks and snacks to the table.
#78

Nox_Noctis

May 16, 2008 18:05:47
Ah, chaos. Nothing wakes me up in the morning like an internet full of ranting, calamity, and confusion.

[Folger's Jingle]The best part of waking up is ... your spell slots are replenished.[/Jingle] ;)
#79

archerpwr

May 16, 2008 19:11:16
I have to contest the Gish Phrase.

BAB 16, CL 17, and 9th level spells, or go home...

Cause those bards with a fighter level or two still aren't taken seriously...

===Aelryinth

Bard gishes have 16 bab and 9th spells. They suck though compared to IC bards.
#80

the_shaman

May 18, 2008 18:40:51
IC bards?
#81

tshern

May 18, 2008 18:56:21
Inspire Courage, I believe.
#82

archerpwr

May 18, 2008 19:30:03
Inspire Courage, I believe.

Indeed. 14d6 sonic damage per hit for the whole party at level 14 is pretty haus.
#83

tshern

May 18, 2008 19:37:26
Indeed. 14d6 sonic damage per hit for the whole party at level 14 is pretty haus.

So I've heard.

Show
Not funny, I take it?
#84

bozwevial

May 18, 2008 20:46:24
So I've heard.

Show
Not funny, I take it?
#85

eldritch_lord

May 18, 2008 21:34:49
Hear, hear.

Or rather, don't. ;) You'll be wishing for a scroll of silence whenever that guy pulls out the ol' lute.
#86

kaiza

May 19, 2008 15:30:27
A new one:

You can't roleplay if you're dead.

Nobody loves Ghostwalk.

k.
#87

eldritch_lord

May 20, 2008 17:58:25
Nobody loves Ghostwalk.

k.

What makes you say that? If you're a ghost, you're not dead, you're either Undead or Differently-Animated, your choice of phrasing.
#88

shadeseraph

May 20, 2008 19:31:05
Because being GOD and being a god is different... And I still prefer the former.
#89

carnivore

May 17, 2009 14:33:16
to save this resource

:D
#90

Endarire

May 20, 2009 12:25:16
Anything worth accomplishing will be interruped by the DM, especially with a phrase like, "As you do so..."

If doing something is truly harmless, it's probably useless. If it's harmless and hilarious, it's probably worth repeating.
#91

phaedrusxy

May 20, 2009 13:27:37
Continuing with this line of reasoning...most splatbooks are less than ten pages.

I used to have a quote in my sig that was something like:

"Most prestige classes could come from the same book: The Book of Complete Crap."
#92

dr_rocktopus

May 20, 2009 15:31:53
"This city deserves a better class of basketweaver, and I'm going to give it to them."
#93

tshern

May 20, 2009 15:34:53
"This city deserves a better class of basketweaver, and I'm going to give it to them."

"Let's put a basket on that face of yours!"
#94

curufin

May 20, 2009 16:15:00
This town needs an anima, mage.
#95

dandu

May 20, 2009 16:19:35
When in doubt, kill it with fire.
#96

phaedrusxy

May 20, 2009 16:23:18
This town needs an anima, mage.

Truly awesome!