Combination needed for uber charger character?

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#1

HeavensThunderHammer

Apr 12, 2009 13:07:20
Hey Guys,

I'm putting together a fighter that does the super charge thing without a mount. IS this list of feats correct?

Power Attack
Improved Bull Rush
Shock Trooper
Leap Attack

And when it comes to mounted combat, I need:

Mounted Combat
Ride by Attack
Spirited Charge

I'm still waiting on my PHBII, is there anything that adds to this combo?

I believe having a "Valorous" weapon helps as well?

thanks!
#2

aelryinth

Apr 12, 2009 14:20:59
Hey Guys,

I'm putting together a fighter that does the super charge thing without a mount. IS this list of feats correct?

Power Attack
Improved Bull Rush
Shock Trooper
Leap Attack

And when it comes to mounted combat, I need:

Mounted Combat
Ride by Attack
Spirited Charge

I'm still waiting on my PHBII, is there anything that adds to this combo?

I believe having a "Valorous" weapon helps as well?

thanks!

You have the core of it, sir. Valorous Weapon is a +1 effect, the weapon deals double dmg on a charge. Most builds that want to include MOunted Combat use a Longspear, which doubles as a Lance on a Charge.

To the first part, you'll probably want to take Combat Brute for the followup to any survivors in the area, although your best bet is simply to Charge, Charge, Charge, and kill them all. Just try to stay away from those set spears...they ouchie.

Heedless Charge if you have Orc Blood, anything which ups your Strength and Jump Skill, Powerful Charge, etc....plenty of ways to up your damage. You want Pounce, too, for the multiple attacks on a Charge, so plan on at least one level of Lion Totem Barbarian...

==Aelryinth
#3

HeavensThunderHammer

Apr 12, 2009 14:56:08
What book has powerful charge in it? A quick look up via web said PHB, but is this PHB 3.0, 3.5 does not have it. Thanks for all the help!
#4

SimDawg

Apr 12, 2009 16:18:59
I tried to research the UbererCharger but the link seems to be gone. (From the handy CO links in the top) Does anyone have another link or another build I can look at to get the feel of this guy? Thank you.
#5

zaxter

Apr 12, 2009 16:42:58
What book has powerful charge in it? A quick look up via web said PHB, but is this PHB 3.0, 3.5 does not have it. Thanks for all the help!

Check the Monster Manual.
#6

HeavensThunderHammer

Apr 12, 2009 16:59:06
Check the Monster Manual.

Didn't find it there either.

Quick question then:

Do the improved power attack feats from the Frenzied Beserker combine with Leap Attack??

Also, does Leap Attack combine with Spirited Charge?

thanks!
#7

phaedrusxy

Apr 12, 2009 17:01:39
Headlong Rush is an awesome addition for an orc or half-orc.

The only Powerful Charge feat I've seen was kind of crappy, only adding a couple of dice of damage. It was in the Eberron campaign book, I believe.
Do the improved power attack feats from the Frenzied Beserker combine with Leap Attack??

Also, does Leap Attack combine with Spirited Charge?

Yes and Yes. Leap Attack actually doubles all the FB stuff, instead of just adding another multiplier (as most D&D doubling does) because it says adds +100% of your power attack damage. This was even clarified in the FAQ.
#8

HeavensThunderHammer

Apr 12, 2009 17:04:26
Also speaking of pounce:

A barbarian dedicated to the lion totem does not gain the
standard fast movement, uncanny dodge, and improved uncanny
dodge barbarian class features, and instead gains the
following abilities.
• At 1st level, a lion-totem barbarian gains Run as a bonus feat.
• A 2nd-level lion-totem barbarian gains a +2 bonus on Hide
checks.
• A 5th-level lion-totem barbarian gains a +2 bonus on damage
rolls whenever he charges.

Is there another version in a different book???
#9

phaedrusxy

Apr 12, 2009 17:10:03
Yes. Complete Champion.
#10

HeavensThunderHammer

Apr 12, 2009 17:12:47
Yes. Complete Champion.

Sorry about that, I kept looking in the complete *warrior*. Oops.
#11

HeavensThunderHammer

Apr 12, 2009 17:23:51
Headlong Rush is an awesome addition for an orc or half-orc.

The only Powerful Charge feat I've seen was kind of crappy, only adding a couple of dice of damage. It was in the Eberron campaign book, I believe.
Yes and Yes. Leap Attack actually doubles all the FB stuff, instead of just adding another multiplier (as most D&D doubling does) because it says adds +100% of your power attack damage. This was even clarified in the FAQ.

Ok, I"m just trying to double check the legality of how to combine leap attack and frenzied beserker. (below is the exact text) It seems to me that the FB PA bonus and LA both modify the original power attack feat, so using both would add +6 damage per -1 to attack. However, you seem to be saying that I would get +8 damage per -1 to attack? That would mean LA is doubling the Supreme Power Attack Feat, not the vanilla power attack.

Thanks for clarification.

Page 35: Frenzied Berserker’s Improved
Power Attack (class feature)
The improved power attack class feature should read as
follows:
Improved Power Attack: Beginning at 5th level, a
frenzied berserker deals +50% the normal damage from
her use of the Power Attack feat. In other words, when
using the Power Attack feat, a frenzied berserker
wielding a two-handed weapon gains a +3 bonus on
damage rolls (instead of a +2 bonus) for each –1 penalty
she applies to her attack rolls.
Page 36: Frenzied Berserker’s Supreme
Power Attack (class feature)
The supreme power attack class feature should read as
follows:

Supreme Power Attack: A 10th-level frenzied
berserker deals +100% the normal damage from her use
of the Power Attack feat. In other words, when using
the Power Attack feat, a frenzied berserker wielding a
two-handed weapon gains a +4 bonus on damage rolls
(instead of a +2 bonus) for each –1 penalty she applies
to her attack rolls.

Page 110: Leap Attack
The second sentence of the Benefit paragraph should
read as follows:
If you cover at least 10 feet of horizontal distance with
your jump, and you end your jump in a square from
which you threaten your target, you deal +100% the
normal bonus damage from your use of the Power
Attack feat.
#12

HeavensThunderHammer

Apr 12, 2009 17:33:12
Also, further question,

How does Combat Brute stack with Frenzied Beserker's improvement of Power Attack?? Thanks!
#13

phaedrusxy

Apr 13, 2009 0:40:33
Read the main 3.5 FAQ about Leap Attack and FB. I am 99% sure they directly addressed it, and said you get the crazy number (8:1, or whatever).
#14

HeavensThunderHammer

Apr 13, 2009 11:29:42
Read the main 3.5 FAQ about Leap Attack and FB. I am 99% sure they directly addressed it, and said you get the crazy number (8:1, or whatever).

I have poured (I used adobe's word search function) over that FAQ and cannot find anything in there for FB or Leap Attack. The only stuff to go on I've found is the errata for the CA and CW.
#15

phaedrusxy

Apr 13, 2009 13:02:18
Sorry, guess I was wrong. I think I was remembering someone's Cust Serv answer + Errata. It seems it is far from resolved, if you google the board for Leap attack frenzied berzerker. :P Hereis probably the best argument thread I've found on it so far. (It started out as Leap Attack + Combat Brute, but FB got tossed in about halfway through the first page. :D ).

Edit: LOL, I just got to page 2, and I see that you'd already found that thread. Good luck. I don't think you're going to get any clear answers on this.