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Critique my Duelist

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#1
pelfaid
Feb 25, 2009 13:50:43 Long time lurker, first time poster and I have a build that I hope the board can help me eek out a little more from.
Allowed one flaw, core and completes mostly anything else must have approval. No campaign specific stuff.

Concept: He stabs people and when they stab him back, he stabs them again and leaves.
Race: Human
Stats: (assume stats are decent all around)
Levels:
1: Swashbuckler
2: Swashbuckler
3: Fighter
4: Fighter
5: Swashbuckler
6: Swashbuckler (Seduction dead level)
7: DuskBlade
8: Arcane Duelist
9: Arcane Duelist
10: Swashbuckler
11-20: Duelist

Feats:
1: Able Learner, Dodge, Combat Reflexes, Weapon Finesse
3: Deadly Defense, Mobility
4: Sidestep
6: Elusive Target
9: Spring Attack
12:Robilar's Gambit
15:Einhander
18: (open)

Gives:
Cha to AC
Int to AC
Dex to AC
Int to damage
Fighting defensively gains +1d6 damage

So what do you all think?

Also general question, when flanked if I use elusive target to cause first attack at me to hit the person flanking me, an I still use Robilar's Gambit to stab them for trying to attack me?
#2
jameswilliamogle
Feb 25, 2009 19:00:54 IT STINKS!!! Mwahahahah... I always wanted to do that...

Seriously, though, the Duelist isn't a good PrC. You can emulate the same feel for it a few other ways...

...Unless you're dead set on using the Duelist PrC. In which case, its not horrible (but I have to think about it).

There are several feats in Complete Scoundrel which advance a few different class abilities at once (Daring Outlaw, Swift Hunter, etc).
#3
pelfaid
Feb 25, 2009 19:34:08 Yeah, I know its not the most mechanically strong PrC. I just figured it was a good baseline to start from. Initially I was going to try to work those feats from Complete Scoundrel in but I ran out of levels :embarrass

Was going with duelist to get the Int to AC and the Precise strike, if that can be emulated elsewhere, goodbye duelist.
#4
ninjarabbit
Feb 25, 2009 20:04:18 I think your best bet will be a simple rogue4/swashbuckler16 with the able learner and daring outlaw feats.

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#1 pelfaid Feb 25, 2009 13:50:43	Long time lurker, first time poster and I have a build that I hope the board can help me eek out a little more from. Allowed one flaw, core and completes mostly anything else must have approval. No campaign specific stuff. Concept: He stabs people and when they stab him back, he stabs them again and leaves. Race: Human Stats: (assume stats are decent all around) Levels: 1: Swashbuckler 2: Swashbuckler 3: Fighter 4: Fighter 5: Swashbuckler 6: Swashbuckler (Seduction dead level) 7: DuskBlade 8: Arcane Duelist 9: Arcane Duelist 10: Swashbuckler 11-20: Duelist Feats: 1: Able Learner, Dodge, Combat Reflexes, Weapon Finesse 3: Deadly Defense, Mobility 4: Sidestep 6: Elusive Target 9: Spring Attack 12:Robilar's Gambit 15:Einhander 18: (open) Gives: Cha to AC Int to AC Dex to AC Int to damage Fighting defensively gains +1d6 damage So what do you all think? Also general question, when flanked if I use elusive target to cause first attack at me to hit the person flanking me, an I still use Robilar's Gambit to stab them for trying to attack me?
#2 jameswilliamogle Feb 25, 2009 19:00:54	IT STINKS!!! Mwahahahah... I always wanted to do that... Seriously, though, the Duelist isn't a good PrC. You can emulate the same feel for it a few other ways... ...Unless you're dead set on using the Duelist PrC. In which case, its not horrible (but I have to think about it). There are several feats in Complete Scoundrel which advance a few different class abilities at once (Daring Outlaw, Swift Hunter, etc).
#3 pelfaid Feb 25, 2009 19:34:08	Yeah, I know its not the most mechanically strong PrC. I just figured it was a good baseline to start from. Initially I was going to try to work those feats from Complete Scoundrel in but I ran out of levels :embarrass Was going with duelist to get the Int to AC and the Precise strike, if that can be emulated elsewhere, goodbye duelist.
#4 ninjarabbit Feb 25, 2009 20:04:18	I think your best bet will be a simple rogue4/swashbuckler16 with the able learner and daring outlaw feats.