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Daring Outlaw (Swashbuckler/Rogue build) - Help with Feats

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#1
koudanshi
Apr 05, 2008 3:27:03 I'm making a Swashbuckler/Rogue cross-class build. We're starting at lvl 1 right now and need approve for all material that's not part of PHB and DMG, though our DM is usually lenient. (I have, after all, gotten Swashbuckler, Daring Outlaw and one Luck Feat through).

Stats are these:
Str 14, Dex 16, Con 16, Int 16, Wis 12, Cha 14

Levels are laid out as:
Swashbuckler 2, Rogue 3, Swashbuckler 15 -- Daring Outlaw at level 6.

Which, in the end, nets me a nice BAB of 19 and 10d6 Sneak attack if I interpret Daring Outlaw correctly and get the sneak attack advancement for -all- Swashbuckler levels.

Now I'm looking for good feats to add. So far, I was thinking:

1 Improved Initiative
1 (That luck feat that allows an Initiative reroll. Alternatively, I'll try and propose that one where you can put yourself at the very start of the initiative list 1/day, though I can't remember where it is nor what it's called.)
3 open
6 Daring Outlaw

If we don't get a party Rogue instead of 17 times 4+Int and three times 8+Int I'll be getting 6+Int for all levels so I can also -- sorta -- fill that role.

Other than that, what are good combinations I could go for? Flavor-wise I'm going for a brash but witty Swordsman, swift and deadly but no muscleman. I guess Weapon Focus might work and I'll probably be allowed to take Weapon Specialization but I'm not sure that's the best I can do, both optimization and flavour-wise.
#2
CantripN
Apr 05, 2008 3:40:56 Good options:
TWF, ITWF, GTWF
Craven (CoR)
Dodge, Mobility, Elusive Target
Darkstalker (LoM)
Staggering Strike
Trickery Devotion (CC)
Undo Resistance (FC2)
Weaken The Heart (Dragon)
#3
koudanshi
Apr 05, 2008 3:57:19 Weaken The Heart ... is that in the Dragon Magazine Compedium? I don't have my books right now.
#4
CantripN
Apr 05, 2008 5:04:15 Weaken the Heart
#5
x-codes
Apr 05, 2008 5:04:37 +1 Rogue, -1 Swashbuckler. Uncanny Dodge is far more useful than whatever you get at Swashbuckler 17.
#6
x-codes
Apr 05, 2008 5:06:10 Aww, Weaken the Heart is just plain mean. You hit them and then trip them twice and bam, they're Exhausted.
#7
koudanshi
Apr 05, 2008 5:16:33 Level 17 Swashbuckler gives you Slippery Mind.
#8
x-codes
Apr 05, 2008 5:21:38
Level 17 Swashbuckler gives you Slippery Mind.

Ah, right. It's nifty if you have a high Will save, but you don't. You do, however, have lots of Dex and Dodge bonuses to AC. Therefore, Uncanny Dodge is a lot more useful than Slippery Mind.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 koudanshi Apr 05, 2008 3:27:03	I'm making a Swashbuckler/Rogue cross-class build. We're starting at lvl 1 right now and need approve for all material that's not part of PHB and DMG, though our DM is usually lenient. (I have, after all, gotten Swashbuckler, Daring Outlaw and one Luck Feat through). Stats are these: Str 14, Dex 16, Con 16, Int 16, Wis 12, Cha 14 Levels are laid out as: Swashbuckler 2, Rogue 3, Swashbuckler 15 -- Daring Outlaw at level 6. Which, in the end, nets me a nice BAB of 19 and 10d6 Sneak attack if I interpret Daring Outlaw correctly and get the sneak attack advancement for -all- Swashbuckler levels. Now I'm looking for good feats to add. So far, I was thinking: 1 Improved Initiative 1 (That luck feat that allows an Initiative reroll. Alternatively, I'll try and propose that one where you can put yourself at the very start of the initiative list 1/day, though I can't remember where it is nor what it's called.) 3 open 6 Daring Outlaw If we don't get a party Rogue instead of 17 times 4+Int and three times 8+Int I'll be getting 6+Int for all levels so I can also -- sorta -- fill that role. Other than that, what are good combinations I could go for? Flavor-wise I'm going for a brash but witty Swordsman, swift and deadly but no muscleman. I guess Weapon Focus might work and I'll probably be allowed to take Weapon Specialization but I'm not sure that's the best I can do, both optimization and flavour-wise.
#2 CantripN Apr 05, 2008 3:40:56	Good options: TWF, ITWF, GTWF Craven (CoR) Dodge, Mobility, Elusive Target Darkstalker (LoM) Staggering Strike Trickery Devotion (CC) Undo Resistance (FC2) Weaken The Heart (Dragon)
#3 koudanshi Apr 05, 2008 3:57:19	Weaken The Heart ... is that in the Dragon Magazine Compedium? I don't have my books right now.
#4 CantripN Apr 05, 2008 5:04:15	Weaken the Heart
#5 x-codes Apr 05, 2008 5:04:37	+1 Rogue, -1 Swashbuckler. Uncanny Dodge is far more useful than whatever you get at Swashbuckler 17.
#6 x-codes Apr 05, 2008 5:06:10	Aww, Weaken the Heart is just plain mean. You hit them and then trip them twice and bam, they're Exhausted.
#7 koudanshi Apr 05, 2008 5:16:33	Level 17 Swashbuckler gives you Slippery Mind.
#8 x-codes Apr 05, 2008 5:21:38	Level 17 Swashbuckler gives you Slippery Mind. Ah, right. It's nifty if you have a high Will save, but you don't. You do, however, have lots of Dex and Dodge bonuses to AC. Therefore, Uncanny Dodge is a lot more useful than Slippery Mind.