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Decisive Rogue

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#1
twizted_leo
Jul 18, 2009 23:07:23 Rogue 1 Monk 19
Decisive strike monk variant.
Ascended rogue feat.
Monk and Rogue levels stack blah blah blah xD.
The real question
If I sneak attack do I apply the sneak attack damage before or after the x2 for decisive strike?
#2
fisharewet
Jul 18, 2009 23:36:39 Effects that add extra dice are normally never multiplied and on precedent I think that holds true here.

However, for the sacrifice you make by making attacks Decisive, a reasonable DM would allowed the Sneak Attack dice to be doubled.

Hell, even doubling the SA dice is adding less damage then a full round attack would be otherwise.
#3
dandu
Jul 19, 2009 0:51:13 You'd probably be better off as a Rogue1/Monk1/Rogue12/Shadowdancer1/Shou Disciple5, honestly.

Large base damage, doubled with Decisive Strike, 7d6 sneak attack, the ability to flurry with martial and light weapons, and Hide in Plain Sight.
#4
twizted_leo
Jul 19, 2009 15:06:21 Well that does sound very good to me, I like the idea of sneak attacking with your fists sounds like you're striking pressure points. Now what is this Shou Disciple? What book is it in cause I havn't seen it before.
#5
true_shinken
Jul 19, 2009 15:55:05 Uh, I thought Ascetic Rogue did not advance Sneak Attack. Text trumpting table and all.
#6
dandu
Jul 19, 2009 16:05:43
Well that does sound very good to me, I like the idea of sneak attacking with your fists sounds like you're striking pressure points. Now what is this Shou Disciple? What book is it in cause I havn't seen it before.

Either Oriental Adventures or Unapproachable East.

5 levels, increases Unarmed Damage at a good pace, lets you flurry with light weapons at 4rd level and martial weapons at 5th level.

Pick up Improved Natural Attack, Snap Kick, Superior Unarmed Strike, and you'll do horrendous unarmed damage and 6d6 sneak attack.
#7
fisharewet
Jul 19, 2009 17:09:12
Uh, I thought Ascetic Rogue did not advance Sneak Attack. Text trumpting table and all.

Oh, good point!

Add 2 to the DC of Stunning Fist if it's a sneak attack and advances unarmed damage. And free multiclassing.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 twizted_leo Jul 18, 2009 23:07:23	Rogue 1 Monk 19 Decisive strike monk variant. Ascended rogue feat. Monk and Rogue levels stack blah blah blah xD. The real question If I sneak attack do I apply the sneak attack damage before or after the x2 for decisive strike?
#2 fisharewet Jul 18, 2009 23:36:39	Effects that add extra dice are normally never multiplied and on precedent I think that holds true here. However, for the sacrifice you make by making attacks Decisive, a reasonable DM would allowed the Sneak Attack dice to be doubled. Hell, even doubling the SA dice is adding less damage then a full round attack would be otherwise.
#3 dandu Jul 19, 2009 0:51:13	You'd probably be better off as a Rogue1/Monk1/Rogue12/Shadowdancer1/Shou Disciple5, honestly. Large base damage, doubled with Decisive Strike, 7d6 sneak attack, the ability to flurry with martial and light weapons, and Hide in Plain Sight.
#4 twizted_leo Jul 19, 2009 15:06:21	Well that does sound very good to me, I like the idea of sneak attacking with your fists sounds like you're striking pressure points. Now what is this Shou Disciple? What book is it in cause I havn't seen it before.
#5 true_shinken Jul 19, 2009 15:55:05	Uh, I thought Ascetic Rogue did not advance Sneak Attack. Text trumpting table and all.
#6 dandu Jul 19, 2009 16:05:43	Well that does sound very good to me, I like the idea of sneak attacking with your fists sounds like you're striking pressure points. Now what is this Shou Disciple? What book is it in cause I havn't seen it before. Either Oriental Adventures or Unapproachable East. 5 levels, increases Unarmed Damage at a good pace, lets you flurry with light weapons at 4rd level and martial weapons at 5th level. Pick up Improved Natural Attack, Snap Kick, Superior Unarmed Strike, and you'll do horrendous unarmed damage and 6d6 sneak attack.
#7 fisharewet Jul 19, 2009 17:09:12	Uh, I thought Ascetic Rogue did not advance Sneak Attack. Text trumpting table and all. Oh, good point! Add 2 to the DC of Stunning Fist if it's a sneak attack and advances unarmed damage. And free multiclassing.