Just a basic, level 10 build with feats, some item choices and some suggested skills to max out.
Edit: Prestige Classes from anywhere, as long as you tell me where. Some reccomended prestige if i don't fit the requirements at 10th level. Don't worry about multiclassing to fit a prestige class. Also, i've always loved the Cleric/Rogue classes...
works even in Core only games
:D
max out concentration, spellcraft, knowledge nature and survival.
The only feat you will have to take is natural spell at sixth the rest is open. Dump CHA into the ground focus on CON and WIS when allocating scores.
To improve healing I recommend getting access to complete divine for the feats augmented healing and spontaneous healer.
...which is, after all, still one of the top-tier skill monkeys along with Factotum and Beguiler.
Warlock 1/ Cloistered Cleric 4/ Eldritch Disciple 5
gain the following:
9th lvl Cleric abilities
6th lvl Warlock abilities:
3d6 EB
3 least Invocations[indent]
All Seeing Eyes (CM): +6 Search and spot bonus and comprehend language for written things
Beguiling Influence: +6 Diplomacy, Bluff, Intimidate
See the Unseen: See Invisibility -and- Darkvision[/indent]
1 lesser[indent]
Fell Flight .... 24 hour Fly[/indent]
:D
According to the OP he only has the PHB, we should probably try and stick to that to be helpful.
... i knew i was forgetting something... try this:Core only:
Wood Elf(+2 Str, +2 Dex, -2 Con, -2 Int)
Ranger 1/ Cleric 7/ Thaumaturgist 2
Patron: Ehlonna
Domains: Animal, Plant
BAB +7
Attributes: (assuming 32pt buy)
12 Str(10 +2 Racial)
20 Dex(14 +2 Racial+4 Gloves)
12 Con(14 -2 Racial)
12 Int(14 -2 Racial)
18 Wis(14 +2 lvls+2 Amulet)
16 Cha(14 +2 Cloak)
Feats:
Track(ranger bonus)
Augment Summoning(Thaumaturgist bonus)
1st lvl: Point Blank Shot
3rd lvl: Precise Shot
6th lvl: Spell Focus(Conjuration)
9th lvl: Weapon Focus(Composite longbow)
Equipment:(49000 GP)
16000gp +4 Gloves of Dex
4000gp +2 Amulet of Wisdom
4000gp +2 Cloak of Charisma
2500gp Ring of Sustenance
2500gp Boots of the Winterlands
2375gp +1 Longbow
25gp Holy symbol, silver
1800gp Efficient quiver
3000gp Rod of extend,lesser
3000gp 3x Pearl of Power (1st lvl spells)
750gp Wand Cure light wounds
2000gp Handy Haversack
600gp lots of Arrows......some Alchemical Silver,..some Cold Iron....some regular
320gp Masterwork Rapier
1205gp +1 Darkwood buckler
2100gp +1 Mithral Chain Shirt
200gp......2x War Ponies(trained)...one to be riden, one for carrying supplies...both are combat ready and can fight
150gp......6x Guard Dogs(trained).....trained for various things
400gp Acid flasks(40)
400gp Alchemists fire(20)
150gp Antitoxin(3)
110gp Everburning torch
200gp Holywater(8)
100gp Smoke sticks(5)
300gp Thunderstones(10)
250gp Tanglefoot Bags(5)
48435gp spent.... 565gp left to spend.... Scrolls(1@ 2nd lvl spell, 16 @ 1st lvl spells) would be a good investment
Final Build should look like this:
Ranger 1/ Cleric 15/ Thaumaturgist 4
continued feat progression:
12th lvl: Quicken Spell
15th lvl: Rapid Shot
18th lvl: Improved Precise Shot
:D
I like the idea of a Cleric Archer, if that idea could be fleshed out a bit...
The Warlock thing looks the most appealing though, on a quick skim. I'd love a skilled cleric, and playing as a cleric rogue still appeals to me.
EDIT: Doing my own research here, Is the PrC from Complete Divine, Geomancer, worth a look? it does have full caster level progression, so i'll only be missing out on the two levels of arcane that i have to take.
Second Edit... Dont worry too much about attributes, we will be rolling them.
If you REALLY want to be strong, Divine Metamagic is in Complete Divine, and when combined with either Quicken or Persistant Spell really will be powerful (perhaps too powerful - use your descretion).
Im sort of adding new restrictions as i go along, based on what my DM tells me as he fleshes the world out. the newest update (which was literally just now...) is no psions without an extremely good reason. not that this thread seems to be focusing on psionics, and i don't think that thread was directed at me as much.
18 (wis)
16 (con)
15 (int)
14 (dex)
14 (cha)
10 (str)
(are for me. changes are fine, but please please please don't tell me to put cha at 10.) Also, No races from the MM.
Grr... still want a roguish character, and an archer looks nice. The problem im finding is mostly that i still need some healing ability, so i can't just go Cleric 4 Rogue 2 Shadowdancer 4 or something like that.
I think my build will end up as a Cloistered Cleric (via SRD!) into some prestige class which gives sneak attack and caster progression. Any reccomendations?
Base Classes:
Cloistered Cleric(Unearthed Arcana)
Warlock(Complete Arcane)
PrC:
Eldritch Disciple(Complete Mage)
Feats:
Knowledge Devotion(Complete Champion)
Zen Archery(Complete Warrior)
for a Skilled character.... Cloistered Cleric is the way to go.... Ranger is also nice, since it gives a major boost to Saves, BAB, Skills, Weapon Proficencies, HD ... Rogue is good, great for skills, but thats about it
if you are allowed Alternative class features... you could take the Trapfinding Ranger Variant from Dungeonscape and do very well with that
also for a more complete version:
Human
Warlock 1/ Cloistered Cleric 4/ Eldritch Disciple 5... (not in that order, Cloistered Cleric is first)
Patron: Principle or ideal(no patron)
Domains:
Knowledge(Cloistered Cleric bonus)
Elf ..... gives Point Blank Shot
Magic ... Use scrolls, wands, and other devices with spell completion or spell trigger activation as a wizard of one-half your cleric level (at least 1st level).
Attributes(using your stat array)
10 Str
14 Dex
16 Con
15 Int
18 Wis
14 Cha
Feats:
Precise shot(Human Bonus)
1st lvl: Practiced Caster(Cleric)
3rd lvl: Knowledge Devotion
6th lvl: Zen Archery
9th lvl: Summon Elemental(Reserve)
Summon Elemental feat
Summon Elemental[Reserve](Complete Mage)Prerequisite: Ability to cast 4th-level spells.
Benefit: As long as you have a summoning spell of 4th level or higher available to cast, you can summon a Small elemental (air, earth, fire, or water; your choice) within a range of 30 feet. The elemental acts as if summoned by a summon monster spell (PH 285). The duration of the summoning is equal to 1 round per level of the highest-level conjuration (summoning) spell you have available to cast.
You can have only one summoned elemental from this feat at a time; if you use the ability a second time, the first elemental disappears. Also, you must remain close to the elemental you summon. If at the end of your turn you are more than 30 feet from the elemental, it disappears.
If you have a conjuration (summoning) spell of 6th level or higher available to cast, you can summon a Medium elemental instead. If you have a conjuration (summoning) spell of 8th level or higher available to cast, you can summon a Large elemental instead.
As a secondary benefit, you gain a +1 competence bonus to your caster level when casting conjuration (summoning) spells.
Benefit: As long as you have a summoning spell of 4th level or higher available to cast, you can summon a Small elemental (air, earth, fire, or water; your choice) within a range of 30 feet. The elemental acts as if summoned by a summon monster spell (PH 285). The duration of the summoning is equal to 1 round per level of the highest-level conjuration (summoning) spell you have available to cast.
You can have only one summoned elemental from this feat at a time; if you use the ability a second time, the first elemental disappears. Also, you must remain close to the elemental you summon. If at the end of your turn you are more than 30 feet from the elemental, it disappears.
If you have a conjuration (summoning) spell of 6th level or higher available to cast, you can summon a Medium elemental instead. If you have a conjuration (summoning) spell of 8th level or higher available to cast, you can summon a Large elemental instead.
As a secondary benefit, you gain a +1 competence bonus to your caster level when casting conjuration (summoning) spells.
Human
Warlock 1/ Cloistered Cleric 4/ Eldritch Disciple 5... (not in that order, Cloistered Cleric is first)
Patron: Principle or ideal(no patron)
Domains:
Knowledge(Cloistered Cleric bonus)
Elf ..... gives Point Blank Shot
Magic ... Use scrolls, wands, and other devices with spell completion or spell trigger activation as a wizard of one-half your cleric level (at least 1st level).
There's a few things that I've noticed about this build that got me wondering.
1) One of the requirements for being an Eldritch Disciple is to worship an evil/chaotic deity. To me that, that implies you cannot be a cleric that follows an ideal.
2) A human cleric with the elf domain? This is a personal opinion, but that sounds kind of iffy without a elaborate back story to explain it. Keep that in mind.
3) Finally, I'm not convinced that the Magic Domain is the best choice. According to RAW, you can only use wizard-only items that are half your cleric level. That's means you can use wizard-item at are 2nd level and lower, maybe level 4 at the upper levels.
Personally, I like the Eldritch Disciple build. But, you might want to consider a different choice of domains. Choose a deity with access to the trickery domain. Not sure what I do for the second domain (or ACF, like Divine Magician from Complete Mage)
Race: Human
Class: Cloistered Cleric 4 / Warlock 1 / ED 5
Deity Choice 1: Olidammara | Domains: Trickery, Luck or Celerity.
Deity Choice 2: Tiamat | Domains: Trickery, Scalykind (for a access to Shapechange at level 9)
ASF: Knowledge Devotion
B: Improved Initiate
1: Practiced Spellcaster
3: Zen Archery
6: Travel Devotion
9: Extra Turning
Travel Devoution is a good feat because you then take two standard actions in a round, which means you can fire two eldritch blasts for fun and profit. Extra Turning is used to get more mileage out of Travel Devotion.
If you choose Tiamat, ask your DM if you can use the Scalykind's domain rebukes to fuel Patron Gift / Travel Devotion.
Those two deity are my suggestions. Feel free to change to any patron/domain that suits your concept. However, whoever you choose make sure you can take the Travel Devotion feat.
There's a few things that I've noticed about this build that got me wondering.
1) One of the requirements for being an Eldritch Disciple is to worship an evil/chaotic deity. To me that, that implies you cannot be a cleric that follows an ideal.
I'm sure there is an elf with the magic domain. They are all chaotic, and they all have the elf domain, IIRC. It certainly shouldn't be a problem choosing a deity that fits.
2) A human cleric with the elf domain? This is a personal opinion, but that sounds kind of iffy without a elaborate back story to explain it. Keep that in mind.
I've said the same thing about his other human cleric builds with that. :D
3) Finally, I'm not convinced that the Magic Domain is the best choice. According to RAW, you can only use wizard-only items that are half your cleric level. That's means you can use wizard-item at are 2nd level and lower, maybe level 4 at the upper levels.
You use them as if you were a wizard of half your cleric level. Which means you can use any staff or wand with 0% chance of problems, even if you're a cleric 2 (or maybe even cleric 1). If you try to use a scroll that's technically too high, you'll have to make some checks, but you still have a chance of it working.
There's a few things that I've noticed about this build that got me wondering.
1) One of the requirements for being an Eldritch Disciple is to worship an evil/chaotic deity. To me that, that implies you cannot be a cleric that follows an ideal.
good point... i was doing it from memory.... as PhaedrusXY said.... here are some examples:
Corellon Larethian(CG) domains: Chaos, Community, Elf, Good, Magic, Pride, Protection, War, Zeal ..... Weapon: Longsword
there are more... but they are Mainly Forgotten Realms setting
2) A human cleric with the elf domain? This is a personal opinion, but that sounds kind of iffy without a elaborate back story to explain it. Keep that in mind.
it would simply be a RP thing(human baby found by Elves after parents were killed by Orc raiding party.... raised by elves)
1/2 Elf will also work... as will Elf(Elf requires Warlock 2/ Cloistered Cleric 4 to start to avoid Xp penalties)
3) Finally, I'm not convinced that the Magic Domain is the best choice. According to RAW, you can only use wizard-only items that are half your cleric level. That's means you can use wizard-item at are 2nd level and lower, maybe level 4 at the upper levels.
+1 what PhaedrusXY said
Personally, I like the Eldritch Disciple build. But, you might want to consider a different choice of domains. Choose a deity with access to the trickery domain. Not sure what I do for the second domain (or ACF, like Divine Magician from Complete Mage)
Divine Magician is a fun variant to use.... but you dont really need it
:D
Not to be rude or anything, but i've already started the character, and Ruby Knight Vindicator doesn't look like it'll be happening here.
Also, to clarify my last post, paragons and bloodlines aren't allowed from UA. BoED and BoVD are still offlimits though.