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DM killed my character: So, Frost mage or abjurer/conjurer

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#1
ObsidianConspiracy
Dec 06, 2010 13:35:30 DM just killed my frostmage, and the party cleric in one fell swoop... throwing three creatures that are CR 13 against our two members when we 'let the plot' to explore. Now I would just up and quit, but I've decided instead that it may be best to prove a point to him... I know those CR's are harder to beat, but he felt we were both overpowered.... the cleric was using DMM quite extensively.

SO.... Anybody know how to build a really brutal battlefield control wizard? Because I intend to do this with a wizard. I want to be able to De-buff to hell and also to prevent the DM from being able to reduce the cleric, who will now be building a healbot, party buffer, from being reached... as he is using cloistered cleric to do this.

So any ideas besides Necromancy?

I will use necromancy however... but other ideas too
#2
saethone
Dec 06, 2010 14:20:15 Wizards shouldn't normally be blasters - read treantmonk's guide to being god, it should give you some insight into which spells to chose for either build. Just remember you can always reflavor spells...grease could just be ice slick...scorching ray could be freezing ray, etc
#3
ObsidianConspiracy
Dec 06, 2010 17:19:45 It's true wizards are not normally blasters, but that doesn't mean they make bad ones surely?
#4
ObsidianConspiracy
Dec 07, 2010 17:07:30 DM just killed my frostmage, and the party cleric in one fell swoop... throwing three creatures that are CR 13 against our two members when we 'let the plot' to explore. Now I would just up and quit, but I've decided instead that it may be best to prove a point to him... I know those CR's are harder to beat, but he felt we were both overpowered.... the cleric was using DMM quite extensively.

SO.... Anybody know how to build a really brutal battlefield control wizard? Because I intend to do this with a wizard. I want to be able to De-buff to hell and also to prevent the DM from being able to reduce the cleric, who will now be building a healbot, party buffer, from being reached... as he is using cloistered cleric to do this.

So any ideas besides Necromancy?
#5
phaedrusxy
Dec 08, 2010 15:28:21 Level? Books? You left out a ton of stuff we really need to know... The various wizard guides focus heavily on BFC. So checking them is the best place to start.
#6
meyer_william4
Dec 08, 2010 15:44:23 You cannot beat the DM with raising the power level of your toons ...
#7
phoenix00
Dec 08, 2010 17:50:01 Introduce your DM to the terror that is Astral Projection in convient Nightmare form.
#8
ObsidianConspiracy
Dec 09, 2010 11:41:25
You cannot beat the DM with raising the power level of your toons ...

Tihs is true, however, I'm trying to show him what IS and what isn't broken. I was playing an evoker only. It's an aggravation that this keeps happening however because he doesn't understand that evocation doesn't really get much better at any level.

Level 10, human only, all books allowed is pretty much how it works.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 ObsidianConspiracy Dec 06, 2010 13:35:30	DM just killed my frostmage, and the party cleric in one fell swoop... throwing three creatures that are CR 13 against our two members when we 'let the plot' to explore. Now I would just up and quit, but I've decided instead that it may be best to prove a point to him... I know those CR's are harder to beat, but he felt we were both overpowered.... the cleric was using DMM quite extensively. SO.... Anybody know how to build a really brutal battlefield control wizard? Because I intend to do this with a wizard. I want to be able to De-buff to hell and also to prevent the DM from being able to reduce the cleric, who will now be building a healbot, party buffer, from being reached... as he is using cloistered cleric to do this. So any ideas besides Necromancy? I will use necromancy however... but other ideas too
#2 saethone Dec 06, 2010 14:20:15	Wizards shouldn't normally be blasters - read treantmonk's guide to being god, it should give you some insight into which spells to chose for either build. Just remember you can always reflavor spells...grease could just be ice slick...scorching ray could be freezing ray, etc
#3 ObsidianConspiracy Dec 06, 2010 17:19:45	It's true wizards are not normally blasters, but that doesn't mean they make bad ones surely?
#4 ObsidianConspiracy Dec 07, 2010 17:07:30	DM just killed my frostmage, and the party cleric in one fell swoop... throwing three creatures that are CR 13 against our two members when we 'let the plot' to explore. Now I would just up and quit, but I've decided instead that it may be best to prove a point to him... I know those CR's are harder to beat, but he felt we were both overpowered.... the cleric was using DMM quite extensively. SO.... Anybody know how to build a really brutal battlefield control wizard? Because I intend to do this with a wizard. I want to be able to De-buff to hell and also to prevent the DM from being able to reduce the cleric, who will now be building a healbot, party buffer, from being reached... as he is using cloistered cleric to do this. So any ideas besides Necromancy?
#5 phaedrusxy Dec 08, 2010 15:28:21	Level? Books? You left out a ton of stuff we really need to know... The various wizard guides focus heavily on BFC. So checking them is the best place to start.
#6 meyer_william4 Dec 08, 2010 15:44:23	You cannot beat the DM with raising the power level of your toons ...
#7 phoenix00 Dec 08, 2010 17:50:01	Introduce your DM to the terror that is Astral Projection in convient Nightmare form.
#8 ObsidianConspiracy Dec 09, 2010 11:41:25	You cannot beat the DM with raising the power level of your toons ... Tihs is true, however, I'm trying to show him what IS and what isn't broken. I was playing an evoker only. It's an aggravation that this keeps happening however because he doesn't understand that evocation doesn't really get much better at any level. Level 10, human only, all books allowed is pretty much how it works.