Does anyone remember The Casio Keyboard and Oddjob builds?

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#1

123456789blaaa

Jul 13, 2013 7:12:41
Both of these builds were made by JanusJones on these boards back in the old days. I can't find them by way of the WayBack Machine though. All I know was that The Casio was a warforged and that Oddjob was an evil factotum. Does anyone remember anything else about them?
#2

awaken_D_M_golem

Jul 15, 2013 16:04:17
googling only found 1 reference to Gato / Casio Keyboard
and also ony 1 for Oddjob, but not any details or links...."window.parent.tinyMCE.get('post_content').onLoad.dispatch();" contenteditable="true" />
"site:wizards.com janusjones" ... still gets 1000+ results.

#3

123456789blaaa

Jul 15, 2013 16:05:53
I am so sad right now Cry.


Hey Tempest and RT, you were around back then right? Do you guys remember anything?
#4

Tempest_Stormwind

Jul 16, 2013 7:23:33
I remember hearing *of* Casio but not what it actually was, sorry. I thought it was a Warforged Bard, but that could have been Gato instead (which was a pretty basic singing crusader). For some reason I'm thinking artificer was involved.

Odd job, however, I haven't heard of. Knowing JJ it may have involved attacking with your own *head* (inside the hat). There are a few deformity builds that do that, in fact.

Both Gato and the deformity builds are here: community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/758...
#5

123456789blaaa

Jul 16, 2013 9:32:17
Awww Frown.


Where is Janus nowadays anyways? Has he just disappeared?   
#6

ChristopherGroves

Aug 02, 2013 18:47:41
Maybe you can ressurrect from the old gleemax links

brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.p... 
#7

ChristopherGroves

Aug 02, 2013 18:52:27
And/or gather some of the mechanics from here:  brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.p...
#8

NineInchNall

Aug 08, 2013 12:10:38
The Casio keyboard was just a warforged bard/crusader using Words of Creation, a way to be immune to/quickly heal nonlethal damage, and inspire courage bonuses. Add in some Song of the White Raven, Subsonics, and Melodic Casting. You only have the one level of Bard, but since you don't stop singing, like, ever ...
#9

JanusJones

Aug 14, 2013 21:39:41
... and Oddjob was a Factotum who worshipped Elder Evils and either re-trained or Embrace/Shunned Chaos to get extra inspiration points, then nova'd them with wands (Whirling Blade to get Int and throw on a Manyfang Dagger for x4 damage).

Hey all.  Good to be posting.
#10

123456789blaaa

Aug 14, 2013 22:53:56
The Casio keyboard was just a warforged bard/crusader using Words of Creation, a way to be immune to/quickly heal nonlethal damage, and inspire courage bonuses. Add in some Song of the White Raven, Subsonics, and Melodic Casting. You only have the one level of Bard, but since you don't stop singing, like, ever ...



Awesome Laughing. I had managed to guess as much from twin threads on multiple other boards but I was still looking for a solid confirmation. 


Also, a poster on one of those twin threads tried to email you through the email addressed linked in your profile on BG. He didn't get a response. Are you not using that email address anymore?    

... and Oddjob was a Factotum who worshipped Elder Evils and either re-trained or Embrace/Shunned Chaos to get extra inspiration points, then nova'd them with wands (Whirling Blade to get Int and throw on a Manyfang Dagger for x4 damage).

Hey all.  Good to be posting.



Fantastic :D. I've actually been looking for you for a while because while I could find some of your builds through the Wayback Machine, others were lost. Where were you? Are you going to start posting on Gitp or the Minmaxboards?
  

#11

Slagger_the_Chuul

Aug 14, 2013 22:59:06
If they're not around, maybe someone should do a rebuild.
#12

123456789blaaa

Aug 14, 2013 23:02:38
If they're not around, maybe someone should do a rebuild.



Look at the 3 posts above yours Tongue Out.
#13

Slagger_the_Chuul

Aug 15, 2013 1:30:21
If they're not around, maybe someone should do a rebuild.



Look at the 3 posts above yours Tongue Out.

I see a lot of the pieces and some discussions (digging a bit with the Wayback Machine), but not an actual build writeup.
#14

JanusJones

Aug 15, 2013 14:51:04
I've actually been looking for you for a while because while I could find some of your builds through the Wayback Machine, others were lost. Where were you? Are you going to start posting on Gitp or the Minmaxboards?



I was doing that other thing ... whachacallit, living?  Wink  Moved cross-coast, had a baby, that sort of thing.  Had a little time and started kicking around on here and spotted this.  Nice to see I'm still remembered!

@Slagger: Not sure about the time necessary for a full build, but the basics are simple ...

Casio (quoted from the long-ago thread):


  • Required Feats: Improved Resilience (1st), Melodic Casting (3rd), Words of Creation (6th), Skill Focus - Perform (9th), Song of the Heart (12th), Power Attack (15th), Lingering Song (18th). Now I could swap Song of the Heart and Melodic Casting, but I kind of like being able to keep my casting ability while singing all day (very sexy).

  • The build progression, above and beyond the feats listed above, is as follows: Bard 9, Seeker of the Song 2, Bard 9.

  • You end up with a +8 morale bonus to saving throws and a +8 dodge bonus to AC from inspire heroics, plus either a +10 morale bonus to attack and damage from inspire courage or an extra 4d10 HD, +4 competence bonus to attack, and +2 competence bonus to Fort saves. You have +14/+9/+4 BAB, and you can cast while your music is in effect. You have 6th level casting, base number of spells 4/4/4/4/4/3/2. You can sing ALL DAY LONG.

  • And you're a medieval boombox bad*&^. 'Nuff said.


A note, here - if you have the feats, throw on Dragontuched and Dragonfire Inspiration to add tons of dice of damage.  One more would get you Draconic Heritage, and let you go sonic for style points.  Focused Performance, from Dragon #332, is an excellent choice to slam in there as well.  There are also some feats out there that let you stack Inspire Courage effects with various other classes (Cleric, I think, off-hand, and maybe Paladin) which might be worth considering - tons of room to optimize here.  As far as equipment, there's the Horn from Complete Adventurer, the Vest from MIC, and a Badge from the MIC, in addition to two spells that boost your bonus (one from SpC and one from Faerun).

Oddjob:


  • This one doesn't work the way it used to.  I'll give you a simple stub:

  • Font of Inspiration as many times as possible.

  • Get a Wand of Wraithstrike and a Wand of Whirling Blade.

  • Get a Manyfang Dagger.  If you're really picky, get yourself a Chakram or that razordisc from Frostburn (though it'll waste a feat - boo).

  • The original build used Trickery Devotion's double to activate phantom doubles of your items that didn't use charges.  You could also just do it yourself with your zillion standard action from the Factotum's 8th level win.

  • Nova your actions to chuck your dagger as many times as possible, dealing quadruple Int + 4d4 in a 60 ft. line.


Though now, I'd do it a tad differently.  Also, if one were to want even MORE feats, there's probably a way to this with Thrall of Demogorgon or another one of those "any feat" granting evil-worshipping classes.
#15

Slagger_the_Chuul

Aug 15, 2013 23:21:41
@Slagger: Not sure about the time necessary for a full build, but the basics are simple ...

I guess we do get a little spoiled after seeing all those builds posted by Tempest Stormwind.
#16

JanusJones

Aug 16, 2013 13:46:19
When you teach high school, you get in the habit of giving the basics and expecting others to do the research themselves.

It builds character.