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#1 vesa May 19, 2009 5:43:41	how can i use this feat with this template? Rogue 3/Fighter 2/Assassin 9/Telflammar Shadowlord 6, taking the Shadow-walker template Rog1 Dodge, TWF Rog2 Ftr1 Weapon Finesse, Mobility Ftr2 Spring Attack Rog3 Asn1 Blind-Fight Asn2 Asn3 Asn4 ITWF Asn5 Asn6 Asn7 Ability Focus: Death Attack Telf1 Telf2 Telf3 GTWF Telf4 Telf5 Telf6 Quicken Spell-like (Dimension Door) it's a spell, not a spell like, right? Asn8 Asn9
#2 emy May 19, 2009 5:50:19	Well, just at a glance, Quicken Spell-Like Ability will work just fine, but it will only function on the 1/day Dimension Door you get from the Shadow-Walker template. It won't do anything for Dimension Doors cast from your Assassin spells.
#3 risner May 19, 2009 6:56:25	Well, just at a glance, Quicken Spell-Like Ability will work just fine, but it will only function on the 1/day Dimension Door you get from the Shadow-Walker template. It won't do anything for Dimension Doors cast from your Assassin spells. Without looking it up, I will comment. If Shadow-Walker gives the person a Dimensional Door (Sp) ability, then Quicken SLA Dimensional Door will work on it a number of times a day. Each use drains daily uses (if any) of the Shadow-Walker ability. Casted spells of Dimensional Door are unaffected by this.
#4 emy May 19, 2009 10:58:06	Without looking it up, I will comment. If Shadow-Walker gives the person a Dimensional Door (Sp) ability, then Quicken SLA Dimensional Door will work on it a number of times a day. Each use drains daily uses (if any) of the Shadow-Walker ability. Casted spells of Dimensional Door are unaffected by this. That's exactly what I said.
#5 phaedrusxy May 19, 2009 11:10:42	Well, just at a glance, Quicken Spell-Like Ability will work just fine, but it will only function on the 1/day Dimension Door you get from the Shadow-Walker template. I'm pretty sure they get more uses per day of this at higher levels.
#6 emy May 19, 2009 12:47:09	I'm pretty sure they get more uses per day of this at higher levels. Yeah, I didn't read very carefully while making my first post. 1/day at level 3 2/day at level 7 3/day at level 15 Quicken SLA is also 3/day~
#7 risner May 19, 2009 19:51:22	That's exactly what I said. I was aware I was in agreement with your post when I posted my post. Call it "validation", should I have indicated I agreed with you instead?
#8 SwordDisciple May 19, 2009 21:23:10	Yes you can use it. But only after Caster Level 16 for Dimension Door. You only get 3 uses per day from the Shadow Walker template, all of which can be quickened with the feat.
#9 Weezel May 20, 2009 0:56:16	Please correct me if there has been some update or errata to the spell, but it states in the PHB description "After using this spell, you cannot takes any other actions until your next turn." Doesn't this make it an extremely limited power to quicken? I mean... you can't dim door next to a target and attack it, for example...
#10 risner May 20, 2009 1:53:13	you can't dim door next to a target and attack it, for example... Who says you don't move, standard action, then quicken DD?
#11 Weezel May 20, 2009 2:05:46	Who says you don't move, standard action, then quicken DD? Still sounds bad, since you can't use any immediate actions during the next turn, and most arcane spellcasters have something they should be casting with their immediate action...
#12 emy May 20, 2009 2:08:29	Still sounds bad, since you can't use any immediate actions during the next turn, and most arcane spellcasters have something they should be casting with their immediate action... Check out Telflammar Shadowlord's Shadow Pounce ability.
#13 yoss May 20, 2009 12:24:51	Still sounds bad, since you can't use any immediate actions during the next turn, and most arcane spellcasters have something they should be casting with their immediate action... Well, you can still do a Swift on your next turn, though being "dazed" until your next turn sucks.
#14 phaedrusxy May 20, 2009 12:26:40	Still sounds bad, since you can't use any immediate actions during the next turn, and most arcane spellcasters have something they should be casting with their immediate action... I wouldn't really consider an assassin much of an arcane spellcaster. And yeah, getting a second full attack in makes up for whatever he loses in spellcasting ability...