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#1 SIKBUZ Dec 09, 2008 17:17:39	But cant work out the best way to go.. I've looked and looked for good early level Druid builds but cant find much out there.. And yes i've checked the MOMF & Druid Handbook threads. 3.5 Published sources, no psionics or tome of battle, 32 point buy And yes this needs to be a Druid. Cannot use the wildshaping Ranger Spellcasting is good but I want to utilize Wildshaping.. MOMF looks interesting but 7 Levels is alot for a game that will probably only go to 16.. Druid 5/MOMF 7/leaves you with 4 Lvls to play with so may not be the ticket.. PrC's i've thought might be handy would be: Monk, MOMF, Natures Warrior, and Warshaper. Can anybody who has played a FUN Wildshaping Druid post a build?? Thank you in advance!! Oh and this build will be used so progression would be grand!!
#2 stpetegamer Dec 09, 2008 17:28:19	druid 16 with appropriate items. Clasps or some such that allow you to use magic items when in shaped form. Also MOMF is not a bad option...
#3 malzakthewizard_dup Dec 09, 2008 17:46:45	I recently made a Druid build for the same reasons. Tell me if it's any good. Here is the 16th level. Starting Stuff Complete Druid Class Traits. Role: Striker. You sprint around the battlefield, inflicting massive damage while in beast form. Power Source: Arcane. You gain your powers from an ancient brotherhood of man and beast. Key Abilities: Wisdom , Strength Armor Proficiencies: Cloth , Leather Weapon Proficiencies: Simple Melee , Simple Ranged , Military Ranged , Kama , Scythe Bonus to Defense: +1 Reflex , +1 Fortitude Hit Points at 1st Level: 12 + Con. Score Hit Points per Level Gained: 6 Healing Surges per Day: 5 + Con. Mod Trained Skills: Nature. From the class skills list below, choose three more trained skills at 1st level. Stealth , Endurance , Perception , Athletics or Heal. Build Options: Moonlight Druid , Beast Druid Class Features: Nature Step , Beast Form.
#4 SIKBUZ Dec 09, 2008 18:15:38	Is this a Druid that you made up yourself? Or is it from sources?? Thanks!
#5 jagi_03 Dec 09, 2008 19:53:48	It looks suspiciously like a homebrew 4E Druid.
#6 thegodhead Dec 09, 2008 20:00:10	Druid 16. Natural spell. Next.
#7 SIKBUZ Dec 10, 2008 4:07:08	It looks suspiciously like a homebrew 4E Druid. Ahh.. That would explain it. And Godhead.. Whats Druid 16 got over MOMF in terms of Wild Shape?
#8 thegodhead Dec 10, 2008 4:59:28	Ahh.. That would explain it. And Godhead.. Whats Druid 16 got over MOMF in terms of Wild Shape? Bite of the Wearbear? Shapechange in a level?
#9 pithica Dec 10, 2008 9:05:45	http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=709233 Druid 5/Planar Shepherd 10/XX1 Pick the right outer plane and you can Wildshape into a Solar. (or whatever the heck else you prefer). Oh, and did I mention, you get all their Su and Sp abilities, as well as their Ex's? Who needs Shapechange?
#10 SIKBUZ Dec 10, 2008 14:35:04	http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=709233 Druid 5/Planar Shepherd 10/XX1 Pick the right outer plane and you can Wildshape into a Solar. (or whatever the heck else you prefer). Oh, and did I mention, you get all their Su and Sp abilities, as well as their Ex's? Who needs Shapechange? Only problem there is a Solar is 22HD..? Awesome idea though!!
#11 pithica Dec 10, 2008 15:05:47	Solar was a joke. I was trying to illustrate how retardedly broken the class was and used the first thing with crap-loads of su/sp abilities that was an Outsider I could think of... Try Sylph...cast spells as a sorceror 4 levels above your hitdice. Or Efreeti...Wish as an SLA. I think you get the idea.
#12 SIKBUZ Dec 10, 2008 16:54:15	I do indeed.. Does anyone know how you might be able to wild shape into a neutral magical beast - Exhaulted Wild Shape only allows good magical beasts???
#13 wotf Dec 10, 2008 18:52:04	I do indeed.. Does anyone know how you might be able to wild shape into a neutral magical beast - Exhaulted Wild Shape only allows good magical beasts??? If your dm uses the standard planes. Planar Shepard and the plane that is home to all animals. The Beastlands, I think its called.
#14 jobiejones Dec 10, 2008 19:03:10	You can get magical beast wildshaping only through epic level and the sorces you have already noted. The Shifter is a PrC from 3.0 that functions as an epic MoMF. Awesome if you are going higher.
#15 thegodhead Dec 10, 2008 19:28:25	You can get magical beast wildshaping only through epic level and the sorces you have already noted. The Shifter is a PrC from 3.0 that functions as an epic MoMF. Awesome if you are going higher. MoMF is considered to be the "update" to shifter.
#16 SIKBUZ Dec 10, 2008 20:01:22	Thats awesome.. I guess i'll have to try and talk my DM into letting my go a Planar Shepherd..
#17 heliomance Dec 11, 2008 3:17:23	Good luck with that. It's considered possibly the single most broken class out there.
#18 SIKBUZ Dec 11, 2008 4:45:36	Oh I don't know.. Tome of Battle is pretty broken, Shadow Mage, DMM Persistance, Shapechange spell..
#19 heliomance Dec 11, 2008 5:29:55	Pretty sure there have been extensive analysises (I'm sure that's not the right plural. Analyses?) and proofs done to show that ToB is not actually broken. And yes, the Killer Gnome, the DMM Persist cleric, and the Shapechange spell are all broken. Those are builds, feats or spells though. The Planar Shepherd is horrendously broken without any optimisation. The class itself is inherently just that good.
#20 thegodhead Dec 11, 2008 22:09:13	Oh I don't know.. Tome of Battle is pretty broken, Shadow Mage, DMM Persistance, Shapechange spell.. Excuse me while I go throw up.
#21 half-elfhippie Dec 13, 2008 13:05:42	I recently made a Druid build for the same reasons. Tell me if it's any good. Here is the 16th level. Starting Stuff Complete Druid Class Traits. Role: Striker. You sprint around the battlefield, inflicting massive damage while in beast form. Power Source: Arcane. You gain your powers from an ancient brotherhood of man and beast. Key Abilities: Wisdom , Strength Armor Proficiencies: Cloth , Leather Weapon Proficiencies: Simple Melee , Simple Ranged , Military Ranged , Kama , Scythe Bonus to Defense: +1 Reflex , +1 Fortitude Hit Points at 1st Level: 12 + Con. Score Hit Points per Level Gained: 6 Healing Surges per Day: 5 + Con. Mod Trained Skills: Nature. From the class skills list below, choose three more trained skills at 1st level. Stealth , Endurance , Perception , Athletics or Heal. Build Options: Moonlight Druid , Beast Druid Class Features: Nature Step , Beast Form.