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Drunken Master, need advice

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#1
tsp7
Apr 01, 2009 15:16:30 I want to build a Drunken Master and pursue it completely, to really get the flavour of it (D.M. is one of those PrCs you take because it sounds cool, but turns out to suck). One of our house rules is that you take only one prestige class, so all the minmaxing options I could find are not really an option.

I'm thinking about taking some levels fighter which could lead to this:

1. Mnk (Stunning Fist, Dodge, Great Fortitude)
2. Mnk (Combat Reflexes)
3. Mnk (Power Attack)
4. Mnk
5. Mnk
6. Mnk (Imp. Natural Attack, Imp. Trip)
7. D.M.
8. D.M.
9. D.M. (?)
10. Ftr (?)
11. Ftr (?)
12. Ftr (?)
13. Ftr (?)
14. D.M.
15. D.M. (?)
16. D.M.
17. D.M.
18. D.M. (?)
19. D.M.
20. D.M.

We play in the Shaar and without Psionic powers, which limits feat choice. So, any advice about feats and class progression to make this a reasonable Drunken Master within the given limitations? Thanks in advance
#2
gorthawar
Apr 01, 2009 16:56:23 You could take a lvl of lion totem barbarian (complete champion) and do full attacks after a circle charge or however that move of the drunken master is called.
The only problem is the alignment shift from lawful to chaotic but in my opinion a drunken master should be allowed to become chaotic anyways.

cheers
Gorthawar
#3
obtusehobbit
Apr 01, 2009 20:47:45 Another nice combination with drunken master is Fist of the Forest since it give your con to AC allowing a drunken master to mantian their AC when drinking. Also it is nice and flavorful as a homeless drunk who can bet you down is just fun.
#4
SIKBUZ
Apr 01, 2009 22:50:45
Another nice combination with drunken master is Fist of the Forest since it give your con to AC allowing a drunken master to mantian their AC when drinking. Also it is nice and flavorful as a homeless drunk who can bet you down is just fun.

He can only use the one PrC..

I would use a Tattood Monk rather than a Drunken Master if you are going Monk PrC way..
#5
dr_rocktopus
Apr 01, 2009 23:22:08 Actually, DM is a superb prestige in a low magic game, and also excellent as a dip.

Consider how attached you are to actually running as a full DM, and also whether or not you desire to actually play as a monk. Further, is tome of battle allowed? I don't mean to sound like a broken record, but warblade is to fighter as cleric is to adept.
#6
smurph
Apr 01, 2009 23:29:39 Levels in Warblade should give you stances/maneuvers that boost your charge, in addition to filling the "fighter" role.

As a DM, your charge is your best option.

That, and the hilarity of wielding tables and assorted miscellanea.
#7
dr_rocktopus
Apr 02, 2009 15:04:20 Erm, I'll mention this here, but.... as written, you get reach appropriate to the length of the weapon you are wielding as an improvised weapon.

#8
tsp7
Apr 03, 2009 7:49:52 Thanks for all the help, it was very useful! Unfortunately Tome of Battle is out, so I decided to stay fighter (we do to much roleplaying to really accept a shift to barbarian, though that would have been great!)

So this is what I have now, any advice on the feats?

1. Mnk (Stunning Fist, Dodge, Great Fortitude)
2. Mnk (Combat Reflexes)
3. Mnk (Weapon focus: natural)
4. Mnk
5. Mnk
6. Mnk (Imp. Natural Attack, Imp. Trip)
7. D.M.
8. D.M.
9. D.M. (Pounce/Lion Tribe Warrior)
10. Ftr (Rapid Stunning)
11. Ftr (Weakening touch)
12. Ftr (Superior Unarmed Strike)
13. Ftr (Weapon specialization: natural)
14. D.M.
15. D.M. (Defensive Throw)
16. D.M.
17. D.M.
18. D.M. (Flying kick)
19. D.M.
20. D.M.

Especially the last two feats are just nice tricks, so if anyone knows a better use for those two feat slots....
#9
chibishuffle
Apr 03, 2009 8:27:47 This is totally random but:

dwarf

monk 2/ knight 5/ DM 4/dwarven defender 9

1:dodge
3: great fortitude
6: endurance
9: toughness (as about using imp toughness from CW)
12:
15:
18:

Use the cityscape web enhancement to exchange ride for tumble all around to meet tumble reqs. Please understand this is not optimized in anyway shape or form what is though is hillarious.

He uses drink like a demon to up his CON and drop his WIS and INT into the ground then he takes on a defensive stance. with huge reach from a ladder as an improvised weapon and the knights vigilant defender and knights challenge.

So he stands there on the battle field swearing and gesturing at his opponents who get so angry they attack him. Given his impressive CON from DD and DM he has the HP to take the hits. In short greatest Knight ever.

In essence this guy gets paid to stand around and drink all day. Who wouldn't want that job?
#10
sofawall
Apr 03, 2009 19:20:04
In essence this guy gets paid to stand around, drink, yell and hit people all day with ladders. Who wouldn't want that job?

Fixed :D

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 tsp7 Apr 01, 2009 15:16:30	I want to build a Drunken Master and pursue it completely, to really get the flavour of it (D.M. is one of those PrCs you take because it sounds cool, but turns out to suck). One of our house rules is that you take only one prestige class, so all the minmaxing options I could find are not really an option. I'm thinking about taking some levels fighter which could lead to this: 1. Mnk (Stunning Fist, Dodge, Great Fortitude) 2. Mnk (Combat Reflexes) 3. Mnk (Power Attack) 4. Mnk 5. Mnk 6. Mnk (Imp. Natural Attack, Imp. Trip) 7. D.M. 8. D.M. 9. D.M. (?) 10. Ftr (?) 11. Ftr (?) 12. Ftr (?) 13. Ftr (?) 14. D.M. 15. D.M. (?) 16. D.M. 17. D.M. 18. D.M. (?) 19. D.M. 20. D.M. We play in the Shaar and without Psionic powers, which limits feat choice. So, any advice about feats and class progression to make this a reasonable Drunken Master within the given limitations? Thanks in advance
#2 gorthawar Apr 01, 2009 16:56:23	You could take a lvl of lion totem barbarian (complete champion) and do full attacks after a circle charge or however that move of the drunken master is called. The only problem is the alignment shift from lawful to chaotic but in my opinion a drunken master should be allowed to become chaotic anyways. cheers Gorthawar
#3 obtusehobbit Apr 01, 2009 20:47:45	Another nice combination with drunken master is Fist of the Forest since it give your con to AC allowing a drunken master to mantian their AC when drinking. Also it is nice and flavorful as a homeless drunk who can bet you down is just fun.
#4 SIKBUZ Apr 01, 2009 22:50:45	Another nice combination with drunken master is Fist of the Forest since it give your con to AC allowing a drunken master to mantian their AC when drinking. Also it is nice and flavorful as a homeless drunk who can bet you down is just fun. He can only use the one PrC.. I would use a Tattood Monk rather than a Drunken Master if you are going Monk PrC way..
#5 dr_rocktopus Apr 01, 2009 23:22:08	Actually, DM is a superb prestige in a low magic game, and also excellent as a dip. Consider how attached you are to actually running as a full DM, and also whether or not you desire to actually play as a monk. Further, is tome of battle allowed? I don't mean to sound like a broken record, but warblade is to fighter as cleric is to adept.
#6 smurph Apr 01, 2009 23:29:39	Levels in Warblade should give you stances/maneuvers that boost your charge, in addition to filling the "fighter" role. As a DM, your charge is your best option. That, and the hilarity of wielding tables and assorted miscellanea.
#7 dr_rocktopus Apr 02, 2009 15:04:20	Erm, I'll mention this here, but.... as written, you get reach appropriate to the length of the weapon you are wielding as an improvised weapon.
#8 tsp7 Apr 03, 2009 7:49:52	Thanks for all the help, it was very useful! Unfortunately Tome of Battle is out, so I decided to stay fighter (we do to much roleplaying to really accept a shift to barbarian, though that would have been great!) So this is what I have now, any advice on the feats? 1. Mnk (Stunning Fist, Dodge, Great Fortitude) 2. Mnk (Combat Reflexes) 3. Mnk (Weapon focus: natural) 4. Mnk 5. Mnk 6. Mnk (Imp. Natural Attack, Imp. Trip) 7. D.M. 8. D.M. 9. D.M. (Pounce/Lion Tribe Warrior) 10. Ftr (Rapid Stunning) 11. Ftr (Weakening touch) 12. Ftr (Superior Unarmed Strike) 13. Ftr (Weapon specialization: natural) 14. D.M. 15. D.M. (Defensive Throw) 16. D.M. 17. D.M. 18. D.M. (Flying kick) 19. D.M. 20. D.M. Especially the last two feats are just nice tricks, so if anyone knows a better use for those two feat slots....
#9 chibishuffle Apr 03, 2009 8:27:47	This is totally random but: dwarf monk 2/ knight 5/ DM 4/dwarven defender 9 1:dodge 3: great fortitude 6: endurance 9: toughness (as about using imp toughness from CW) 12: 15: 18: Use the cityscape web enhancement to exchange ride for tumble all around to meet tumble reqs. Please understand this is not optimized in anyway shape or form what is though is hillarious. He uses drink like a demon to up his CON and drop his WIS and INT into the ground then he takes on a defensive stance. with huge reach from a ladder as an improvised weapon and the knights vigilant defender and knights challenge. So he stands there on the battle field swearing and gesturing at his opponents who get so angry they attack him. Given his impressive CON from DD and DM he has the HP to take the hits. In short greatest Knight ever. In essence this guy gets paid to stand around and drink all day. Who wouldn't want that job?
#10 sofawall Apr 03, 2009 19:20:04	In essence this guy gets paid to stand around, drink, yell and hit people all day with ladders. Who wouldn't want that job? Fixed :D