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Duskblade/Monk

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#1
felgoroth
Nov 20, 2009 15:42:28 Ok, so I've been trying to figure out how to make a build that uses the Duskblades Arcane Channeling ability and the Monks Unarmed Strike although I think Improved Unarmed Strike and Superior Unarmed Strike would be ok if there's no other way. The only way I've figured this could work is if I was in a gestalt setting but, you guys might be able to figure something out better. While looking through some books I noticed the Ascetic Mage feat but, the wording seems to make it that you can only multiclass Sorcerer and Monk for the bonus. Also with that the Unarmed Strike damage doesn't even go up as you gain levels in Sorcerer. I also noticed that I could go into Enlightened Fist and do something similar to the Duskblade/Monk but, I wouldn't be able to channel my spells until at the least 8th level.

I almost think without gestalt the Enlightened Fist would be the easiest going Monk/Sorcerer and taking Ascetic Monk, going Monk/Wizard Focused Specialist (with Necromancy or Evocation), or possibly even going Monk/Dread Necromaner. I'd like the Duskblade/Monk build but, if I go that route I can't change ray spells into touch spells like the Enlightened Fist and I don't get as many spells. Unless I do the Sorcerer/Monk I'm most likely going to take Kung Fu Genious so I don't have to rely on Wis so much.
#2
Chosenofragnarok
Nov 20, 2009 16:33:19
Ok, so I've been trying to figure out how to make a build that uses the Duskblades Arcane Channeling ability and the Monks Unarmed Strike although I think Improved Unarmed Strike and Superior Unarmed Strike would be ok if there's no other way. The only way I've figured this could work is if I was in a gestalt setting but, you guys might be able to figure something out better. While looking through some books I noticed the Ascetic Mage feat but, the wording seems to make it that you can only multiclass Sorcerer and Monk for the bonus. Also with that the Unarmed Strike damage doesn't even go up as you gain levels in Sorcerer. I also noticed that I could go into Enlightened Fist and do something similar to the Duskblade/Monk but, I wouldn't be able to channel my spells until at the least 8th level.

I almost think without gestalt the Enlightened Fist would be the easiest going Monk/Sorcerer and taking Ascetic Monk, going Monk/Wizard Focused Specialist (with Necromancy or Evocation), or possibly even going Monk/Dread Necromaner. I'd like the Duskblade/Monk build but, if I go that route I can't change ray spells into touch spells like the Enlightened Fist and I don't get as many spells. Unless I do the Sorcerer/Monk I'm most likely going to take Kung Fu Genious so I don't have to rely on Wis so much.

Well let me first start off by saying that the dusk blades ability is un-nessasary you can already channel touch attacks through unarmed strikes.

so in theory a wizard/monk or a sorc/monk is better i belive even a warmage/monk would be better...
you could go rogue/monk/sorc/Enlightened Fist/the ray specialist from complete scoundrel.

but monk/duskblade is pointless.. no offence

#3
felgoroth
Nov 20, 2009 17:58:54 Wow... As you can tell I normally don't play spellcasters. If I'd have known that I wouldn't have even said anything about the Duskblade. Now it's deciding what is the best way to get a bunch of touch and ray spells. Warmage would be good... I'll look tomorrow but, I'll also ask so I might not have to. Out of a Warmage, a Sorcerer, or a Focused Specialist Wizard which would get the most touch/ray spells per day?
#4
lycanthrope0
Nov 22, 2009 9:18:38 just thinking that a wizard would get more spells known and earlier but i believe that a sorcerer would be able to cast the most a day and not kill you on lack of buff spells to defend yourself with.

i would probably for effeficeny sake go Monk 2/ wizard 3 / EF 10/ Abj champion 5 with carmadine monk or kungfu geniuse feats. you would get less spells perday but win out on versatility would be 1 caster level off of 9th level spells. Add in a good selection of magic items ( rings of wizardry ) and you would be good to go with a solid mobil gish.

Personaly i played ( mostly for rp reasons and we were in a low magic setting ) i played a version based off of sorcerer with ardent savant thrown in for 100+ AC into the Epic levels an relied on a divine power and arcane strike to power my Offense

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#1 felgoroth Nov 20, 2009 15:42:28	Ok, so I've been trying to figure out how to make a build that uses the Duskblades Arcane Channeling ability and the Monks Unarmed Strike although I think Improved Unarmed Strike and Superior Unarmed Strike would be ok if there's no other way. The only way I've figured this could work is if I was in a gestalt setting but, you guys might be able to figure something out better. While looking through some books I noticed the Ascetic Mage feat but, the wording seems to make it that you can only multiclass Sorcerer and Monk for the bonus. Also with that the Unarmed Strike damage doesn't even go up as you gain levels in Sorcerer. I also noticed that I could go into Enlightened Fist and do something similar to the Duskblade/Monk but, I wouldn't be able to channel my spells until at the least 8th level. I almost think without gestalt the Enlightened Fist would be the easiest going Monk/Sorcerer and taking Ascetic Monk, going Monk/Wizard Focused Specialist (with Necromancy or Evocation), or possibly even going Monk/Dread Necromaner. I'd like the Duskblade/Monk build but, if I go that route I can't change ray spells into touch spells like the Enlightened Fist and I don't get as many spells. Unless I do the Sorcerer/Monk I'm most likely going to take Kung Fu Genious so I don't have to rely on Wis so much.
#2 Chosenofragnarok Nov 20, 2009 16:33:19	Ok, so I've been trying to figure out how to make a build that uses the Duskblades Arcane Channeling ability and the Monks Unarmed Strike although I think Improved Unarmed Strike and Superior Unarmed Strike would be ok if there's no other way. The only way I've figured this could work is if I was in a gestalt setting but, you guys might be able to figure something out better. While looking through some books I noticed the Ascetic Mage feat but, the wording seems to make it that you can only multiclass Sorcerer and Monk for the bonus. Also with that the Unarmed Strike damage doesn't even go up as you gain levels in Sorcerer. I also noticed that I could go into Enlightened Fist and do something similar to the Duskblade/Monk but, I wouldn't be able to channel my spells until at the least 8th level. I almost think without gestalt the Enlightened Fist would be the easiest going Monk/Sorcerer and taking Ascetic Monk, going Monk/Wizard Focused Specialist (with Necromancy or Evocation), or possibly even going Monk/Dread Necromaner. I'd like the Duskblade/Monk build but, if I go that route I can't change ray spells into touch spells like the Enlightened Fist and I don't get as many spells. Unless I do the Sorcerer/Monk I'm most likely going to take Kung Fu Genious so I don't have to rely on Wis so much. Well let me first start off by saying that the dusk blades ability is un-nessasary you can already channel touch attacks through unarmed strikes. so in theory a wizard/monk or a sorc/monk is better i belive even a warmage/monk would be better... you could go rogue/monk/sorc/Enlightened Fist/the ray specialist from complete scoundrel. but monk/duskblade is pointless.. no offence
#3 felgoroth Nov 20, 2009 17:58:54	Wow... As you can tell I normally don't play spellcasters. If I'd have known that I wouldn't have even said anything about the Duskblade. Now it's deciding what is the best way to get a bunch of touch and ray spells. Warmage would be good... I'll look tomorrow but, I'll also ask so I might not have to. Out of a Warmage, a Sorcerer, or a Focused Specialist Wizard which would get the most touch/ray spells per day?
#4 lycanthrope0 Nov 22, 2009 9:18:38	just thinking that a wizard would get more spells known and earlier but i believe that a sorcerer would be able to cast the most a day and not kill you on lack of buff spells to defend yourself with. i would probably for effeficeny sake go Monk 2/ wizard 3 / EF 10/ Abj champion 5 with carmadine monk or kungfu geniuse feats. you would get less spells perday but win out on versatility would be 1 caster level off of 9th level spells. Add in a good selection of magic items ( rings of wizardry ) and you would be good to go with a solid mobil gish. Personaly i played ( mostly for rp reasons and we were in a low magic setting ) i played a version based off of sorcerer with ardent savant thrown in for 100+ AC into the Epic levels an relied on a divine power and arcane strike to power my Offense