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#1 NiteCyper Jan 17, 2010 0:04:42	chumped "Impromptu Metamagic Level: 1st Replaces: If you select this class feature you do not gain a familiar Benefit: Each day, you may choose a metamagic feat you have. You can cast spells affected by that feat without increasing the spell level or casting time of the spells. You may not use any other metamagic feats that day. You may use this ability a number of times per day equal to 5 minus the level adjustment of the metamagic feat. (Thus, you may use Quicken Spell in this way once per day, while you could use Silent Spell four times per day.) You may apply the metamagic feat spontaneously, as you cast the spell. If you prepare spells, you do not need to prepare the spells with the metamagic feat already applied. Even though this ability does not increase the spell's level, you must be able to cast spells of the level the spell would be if you applied the metamagic feat normally. For example, a quickened magic missile would normally require a 5th-level spell slot. With this ability you may cast a quickened magic missile as a 1st-level spell, but you must still be able to cast 5th-level spells." "Wall of Gloom" (level 2, Spell Compendium, Illusion [Shadow, Mind-affection, and Pattern/Fear something], page 233, Sor/Wiz-only) . Dragon's Tear, optional spell component (CM), 200 GP: "When used in any fire or mind-affecting spell, a dragon's tear increases the spell's level by one, as if affected by the Heighten Spell feat." Precocious Apprentice. Shadowcraft Mage prereqs: Gnome, Bluff & Hide 4 ranks, Spell Focus (SF) (Illusion), able to cast at least three illusion spells, including at least one shadow spell of 4th level or higher. Was there a ruling that disallowed the use of Precocious Apprentice for entry into PrCs?
#2 NiteCyper Jan 18, 2010 21:35:47	Without Eldritch Corruption (Taint hurts), nor down-time money-making investment(s), with Flaws, Gnome Illusionist with a level 1 Shadow spell (Dead End or Net of Shadows), Metamagic School Focus (Illusion, duh, CM), Heighten Spell, Shadow Shaper-ACF (UA, Hide as class skill) Apprentice (Criminal, DMG2, Bluff as class skill), retrains Apprentice to Spell Focus (Illusion). PHBII says you can retrain before attaining the benefits of the next level. MMSF + Heighten to shove it to level 4. Is the MMSF + Heighten combo possible? Is it worth toughing out the Taint? Is the down-time investment really viable? Is there a way to get those 4 Bluff skill ranks? Is there a way to get into ScM at level 2 with the Illusionist?
#3 NiteCyper Jan 19, 2010 5:13:32	Another breakthrough: It would seem one can put the Apprentice (Criminal) feat to use at level one via the Psychic Reformation power (www.d20srd.org/srd/psionic/powers/psychi...). How much does it cost and and how do I figure out how much it costs? Must I now optimize a Psion/wilder to get the casting down to the lowest level possible for cost purposes? Does this trick work; does this let you use skill points with Bluff as a class skill at level 1 (as a Wizard)?
#4 NiteCyper Jan 22, 2010 20:44:38	What's the cost for a manifestation of "Psychic Reformation"? Or, what's the cheapest way to get this manifested upon one's PC? Finding the rules/prices for NPC castings of spells was hard enough. Are there any other ways for the Beguiler to qualify for the Shadowcraft Mage PrC than with Eldritch Corruption (or abuse of bonus high-spellcasting-stat spells)? The problem is that it needs to gain a level 4 Shadow spell with two feats, considering the inclusion of flaws.
#5 NiteCyper Jan 25, 2010 1:10:01	Related fail-threads: community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/758... brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.p... Reason for this post: I found the answer! A 1/day Net of Shadows Runestaff from MIC will cost 200 gp. Ignoring the UMD check, it lets you qualify for ScM as a Beguiler from level 1 if you take Heighten Spell and Metamagic School Focus for it. This assumes you can apply MMSF to Heighten Spell as one applies metamagic to the Runestaff (which is possible). Runestaff from MIC web excerpt: www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ps/200... MY NIGHTS OF RESTLESS SLEEP ARE OVERSOIDHGFOBNOINBfor now...
#6 hsien Feb 01, 2010 12:14:13	Reason for this post: I found the answer! A 1/day Net of Shadows Runestaff from MIC will cost 200 gp. Ignoring the UMD check, it lets you qualify for ScM as a Beguiler from level 1 if you take Heighten Spell and Metamagic School Focus for it. This assumes you can apply MMSF to Heighten Spell as one applies metamagic to the Runestaff (which is possible). Didn't read through linked posts, as this answer is stated in a way that implies no further explanation is needed. Assuming that MMSF can be applied to Heighten, which is be debatable as I see it being like trying to apply Arcane Thesis to Heighten, but I'll accept premise for next step. That would still require that you have a level 3 spell/spell slot available to power the Runestaff spell, when applying Heighten, and thus be able to cast a lvl 4 Shadow spell. How?
#7 NiteCyper Feb 01, 2010 17:42:10	You apply it all at once.
#8 hsien Feb 02, 2010 8:07:10	You apply it all at once. A vague answer as "it" is undefined. a: Applying MMSF and Heighten (assuming again those 2 do work together)  to Runestaff for Net of Shadows still fails to get access to Shadowcraft, as character does not have a (now) 3rd level spell/spell slot to power the Runestaff as a lvl 1 Beguiler. b: MMSF's 3/day uses cannot be applied all at the same time, as that violates rules for stacking. Can you clarify what is the "it" that you reference please. Thanks fyi, I'm looking at playing a Shadowcraft as next character so really interested if this is possible.
#9 NiteCyper Feb 02, 2010 19:04:20	Stackan rules? lol it no say no stack. u must free u mind
#10 hsien Feb 04, 2010 7:51:06	Stackan rules? lol it no say no stack. u must free u mind afb's so not sure if MMSF is  classified as a "feat" or "metamagic feat" but from the... SRD    (Bold mine) "Multiple Metamagic Feats on a Spell" "A spellcaster can apply multiple metamagic feats to a single spell. Changes to its level are cumulative. You can’t apply the same metamagic feat more than once to a single spell." If it's just a feat, not a Metamagic feat, is there any RAW indicating that feat can be applied more then once, multiple charges per day used, when not specified within the feat? Note: stating "it doesn't say it can't be done" does not necessarily equal an allowance in the game mechanics for RAW/RAI.
#11 NiteCyper Feb 05, 2010 0:10:45	"METAMAGIC SCHOOL FOCUS You are unusually skilled at modifying the effects of a particular school of magic.     Prerequisite: Spell Focus (chosen school) or specialist wizard in chosen school.     Benefit: Choose a school of magic for which you have the Spell Focus feat, or the school in which you have specialized. Three times per day, you can reduce by one level the cost of a metamagic feat applied to a spell of the chosen school. If you prepare spells, you can have only up to three such reduced- cost spells prepared at any time.     Special: A wizard can select this feat as a wizard bonus feat. This feat can be taken more than once. Each time you take it, it applies to a different school of magic." - Complete Mage, page 45. "...You can’t apply the same reduction more than once to a single spell." D'OH WELL![/sarcasm]