Character Creation Rules
Cyrocloud;15283878 wrote:
Is that caster as 16? Man. If only you could swap Sacred Exorcist for Cloistered Cleric. Rough.
Yup, finishes up casting 8th level spells and just scrapes BAB 16. Losing another CL would really hurt, and the domains/devotion feats don't quite cut it as a trade imo.
Okay, so there's likely an artificer in the party so I'm pretty sure I can get hold of a custom Runestaff. Namely, "Runestaff of the Elemental Heart" (Heart of Air, Earth, Fire and Water), which I'll be using for pre-buffing. At a higher level I'll likely be looking to get Elemental Body added onto it as well for that tasty fly 100 (perfect) and crit-immunity.
That frees up a few spells known, so right now I'm looking at:
Spells Known
1: Benign Transposition, Mage Armour, Nerveskitter, Shield, Wings of Swift Flying
2: Create Magic Tattoo, Heroics, Wings of Cover, Wraithstrike +1
3: Haste, Heroism, +2
4: Overland Flight, Ruin Delver’s Fortune, Thunderlance
5: Arcane Fusion, Bite of the Wereboar
With a morning buff routine of: Extended Create Magic Tattoo (alternate between +2 competence to attacks and +1 CL), all 4 Heart spells, Overland Flight and Wings of Swift Flying.
Which leaves me one 2nd level spell and two 3rd level spells to choose, and I'm stumped. I've got loads of possibilities, e.g.:
2nd
- Electric Vengeance
- False Life
- Invisibility
- Mirror Image
- See Invisibility
3rd
- Battlemagic Perception
- Dimension Step
- Dispel Magic
- Evard’s Menacing Tentacles
- Girallon’s Blessing (if can be used for x2.5 Str to damage?)
- Greater Magic Weapon
- Karmic Backlash
- Mass Snake’s Swiftness
- Nondetection
- Repelling Shield
- Vampiric Touch
I could use some help narrowing it down a little
Also, got a preliminary equipment list:
No, they don't equate to loosing 8th level spells. Harsh.
Are you going to continue play after 20th? If so, then we can recover from this tragedy.
Forget Abjurant Champion. Use 4 levels of sacred exorcist.
You think? Why?
The +3 Shield AC alone strikes me as far better than the other SE class abilities.
Are you going to continue play after 20th? If so, then we can recover from this tragedy.
Not sure. I believe the vague plan is epic, but given pbp pacing I'm optimizing for the starting level and I'll cross that bridge when I come to it (likely via Otyugh Hole entry to Incantatrix for Persist cheese and casting advancement).
You think? Why?
The +3 Shield AC alone strikes me as far better than the other SE class abilities.
Because combat casting blows.
Because combat casting blows.
Well yeah, but there's not many amazing feats I qualify for at 3rd level so it seems a small price to pay. What exactly would you replace it with?
Well yeah, but there's not many amazing feats I qualify for at 3rd level so it seems a small price to pay. What exactly would you replace it with?
1) Dodge, Mobility, Practiced Spellcaster
3) Power Attack
6) Arcane Strike
9) Combat Reflexes
12) Extend Spell
15) Robilar's Gambit
18) Rapid Metamagic (get quicken via location)
A wizard base is loads stronger, but w/e. You can do without leap attack.
1) Dodge, Mobility, Practiced Spellcaster
3) Power Attack
6) Arcane Strike
9) Combat Reflexes
12) Extend Spell
15) Robilar's Gambit
18) Rapid Metamagic (get quicken via location)
A wizard base is loads stronger, but w/e. You can do without leap attack.
I don't have Leap Attack at all as it stands. And I don't qualify for Arcane Strike till 9th, so that swaps with Combat Reflexes.
Then I'm getting Mobility and Combat Reflexes with items, and effectively trading them in for IUS and Ascetic Mage at 1st and 6th, with Combat Casting retrained in at 3rd (since Bite of the Weretiger/bear grants Power Attack anyway).
I could maybe drop AbjCha, IUS + Ascetic and thereby wind up with 3 free feats at 1st/3rd/6th, but I'm still struggling to think of better choices that a low level Sorcerer qualifies for.
Re Quicken: I've got loads of immediate/swift options as it is (Haste, Divine Companion, Wraithstrike, Wings of Cover, RDF, expending Heart spells), I'm not even sure I can find time for all of those let alone more quickened spells. Plus by the time I'd get Quicken I'll have Perpetual Options and Time Stop, so standard action casting of buff spells really is no problem for me. Although I wouldn't mind Rapid for use with Extend, and I could still grab Elusive Target with Heroics I suppose...
Instead of swapping AC out for more Exorcist, I think you qualify for Enlightened Fist. Three levels of that'll do you good.
Interesting idea. But...
- I'd need Combat Casting and Stunning Fist to get in, and if I'm taking Combat Casting then I'll stick with AbjCha.
- It'd lose another BAB and CL
- I'm not making use of the unarmed advancement so that's irrelevant
- Arcane Fist would require me to use fists instead of my Thunderlance, plus I don't really have room for all that many touch spells on my known list.
So, thanks but no thanks.