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Effigy madness!

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#1
darkwingpuck
Mar 20, 2008 15:11:51 Hey, I'm building a Dwarven Artificer who is going to specialize in effigy construction from "Complete Mage" . He's currently Artificer8 / Effigy Master 2.

My question is this, at 13 hit die what is/are the most efficient creatures to make into effigies for pure asskicking/spying/what-have-you potential?

Basically I'm looking for the top ten creatures to build into effigies, for whatever reason. So far the best I can see is a Firbolg from MMII. He's a CR 12 with ridiculous str, can wield weapons and doesn't lose much in the transition to effigy. Does anyone else have some ideas?
#2
BloodDragon
Mar 20, 2008 15:16:35 I assume you mean without Template stacking cheese?
#3
hogarth
Mar 20, 2008 15:58:04 A good place to get some tips is the Master of Many Forms Bible; it lists forms with cool (Ex) abilities. Good ones are the Cave Troll, Firbolg and War Troll.
http://forums.gleemax.com/wotc_archive/index.php/t-363632
#4
darkwingpuck
Mar 20, 2008 16:14:18 Cool, thanks!

And no, no templates.
#5
verdra001
Mar 27, 2008 21:13:24 remember the effigies loses all (EX) special quailities like regen but not (EX) special attack like constrict or swallow whole but not con based one like a chuul's paralytic tentacles

the best form i have found is the Rukanyr in fiend folio 6 claws (d6) 3 bites (d8) 1 slam (3d6) plus a stunning strike dc18 fort or stunned for d4 rounds it's nice

oh and its only 7HD but can be scaled all the way to, well, it list 29+ for advancement so no cap
#6
ninja1
Mar 28, 2008 14:29:34 Here's a link to the thread: Best Effigies

Here's some generic effigy recommendations:

In case you haven't see it, here's the thread by deathwishjoe that has Templates applied to effigies:
Domo Arigato Mr. Roboto.

Are you familiar with all of the item cost reducing feats? (Extroadinary Artisan, Legendary Artisan, and Magical Artisan)

There's also the Exceptional Artisan feat (-25% time).

The XP cost could be shared by other characters:
Magic Items: Transferring XP Costs

For construct boosts, I highly recommend Dragon magazine #327. Page 73 has some neat extra abilities that can be built into your constructs.

Rudimentary Intelligence gives your constructs an Intelligence score, and they gain feats and skill points as a result.

Extra Arms gives your constructs 2 additional slam attacks as part of its full attack.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 darkwingpuck Mar 20, 2008 15:11:51	Hey, I'm building a Dwarven Artificer who is going to specialize in effigy construction from "Complete Mage" . He's currently Artificer8 / Effigy Master 2. My question is this, at 13 hit die what is/are the most efficient creatures to make into effigies for pure asskicking/spying/what-have-you potential? Basically I'm looking for the top ten creatures to build into effigies, for whatever reason. So far the best I can see is a Firbolg from MMII. He's a CR 12 with ridiculous str, can wield weapons and doesn't lose much in the transition to effigy. Does anyone else have some ideas?
#2 BloodDragon Mar 20, 2008 15:16:35	I assume you mean without Template stacking cheese?
#3 hogarth Mar 20, 2008 15:58:04	A good place to get some tips is the Master of Many Forms Bible; it lists forms with cool (Ex) abilities. Good ones are the Cave Troll, Firbolg and War Troll. http://forums.gleemax.com/wotc_archive/index.php/t-363632
#4 darkwingpuck Mar 20, 2008 16:14:18	Cool, thanks! And no, no templates.
#5 verdra001 Mar 27, 2008 21:13:24	remember the effigies loses all (EX) special quailities like regen but not (EX) special attack like constrict or swallow whole but not con based one like a chuul's paralytic tentacles the best form i have found is the Rukanyr in fiend folio 6 claws (d6) 3 bites (d8) 1 slam (3d6) plus a stunning strike dc18 fort or stunned for d4 rounds it's nice oh and its only 7HD but can be scaled all the way to, well, it list 29+ for advancement so no cap
#6 ninja1 Mar 28, 2008 14:29:34	Here's a link to the thread: Best Effigies Here's some generic effigy recommendations: In case you haven't see it, here's the thread by deathwishjoe that has Templates applied to effigies: Domo Arigato Mr. Roboto. Are you familiar with all of the item cost reducing feats? (Extroadinary Artisan, Legendary Artisan, and Magical Artisan) There's also the Exceptional Artisan feat (-25% time). The XP cost could be shared by other characters: Magic Items: Transferring XP Costs For construct boosts, I highly recommend Dragon magazine #327. Page 73 has some neat extra abilities that can be built into your constructs. Rudimentary Intelligence gives your constructs an Intelligence score, and they gain feats and skill points as a result. Extra Arms gives your constructs 2 additional slam attacks as part of its full attack.