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Eldritch Character

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#1
cole_caecus
May 18, 2010 16:32:47 Ok, so ive been thinking of making a character, level 10, for a while now. no particular game, just wanted to build it.

So this is what im working on right now.

Level1 Sorc(PA)/3Cleric/3Warlock/ 1 Eldritch Dicsiple, 2 Eldritch Thurge.

Now, i know i lose some levels from All my casting, but i am doin this for fun, but my main question is this. Is there anything that would let me in to it sooner? i use Precocious Apprentice to get into it earlier on the Sorc side, but i dont know anything for the warlock or the cleric. I want to keep warlock and Sorc, but if you have a better suggestion for cleric, or a way to get into these classes earlier, i would welcome the help.
#2
cole_caecus
May 19, 2010 17:51:24 Bump, lol. come on, almost 40 views and no ideas?
#3
max_kravenoff
May 19, 2010 21:33:56 Oh damn forum, just eat my post.

Ur-Priest is your friend if you want QUICK cleric progression.
#4
cole_caecus
May 19, 2010 23:22:23 Mostly, i need a way to get Least invocations quicker. I just looked, it ends up i dont get them till level 6, and i need them to enter both the eldritch prcs.
#5
cole_caecus
May 19, 2010 23:36:58 Ok, so question.

If i make it like this

Sorc1/War6/UrPriest2/ Eldritch Disciple 7/ Eldritch Thuerge 4 (ECL 20)

I would have (If i calculated correct)

Level 17 Caster in Warlock (10 Invocations, up to Dark Invocations)
Level 9 Caster in Ur-Priest (Up to level 9 Cleric Spells)
Level 5 Caster in Sorc (Up to Level 2 Sorc Spells)

Is that correct?
#6
max_kravenoff
May 20, 2010 0:33:58
Mostly, i need a way to get Least invocations quicker. I just looked, it ends up i dont get them till level 6, and i need them to enter both the eldritch prcs.

No, first you only need Warlock 1, since Warlock 1 gives you: 1 least invocation and Eldritch Blast of 1d6.

Let me try...

Sorc 4
War 1
Anything with good Fort def 1
Ur-Priest 2
Eldritch Disciple 7
Eldritch Theurge 4
One more Eldritch level not counted

Warlock Invocations Level: 12 (2 Greater Invocations) CL 12
Ur-Priest Spellcaster Level: 9 (9th level spells) CL 19
Sorcerer Spellcaster Level: 8 (4th level spells) CL 8

You can play with Bard/Sublime Chord, Ur Priest & Warlock to play the Theurges, may be you can get even greater Caster Level and Spell Levels.

Edit to add a new build:

Sorc 4/ War 1/ Monk1/ Ur-Priest 2/ Eldritch Disciple 7/Eldritch Theurge 5
Ascetic Mage in Complete Adventurer make your AC bonus from monk to be tied to your CHA. It's not very optimal*, but solves the problem of save to qually to Ur-Priest.

Warlock Invocations Level: 13 (3 Greater Invocations) CL 13
Ur-Priest Spellcaster Level: 9 (9th level spells) CL 20
Sorcerer Spellcaster Level: 9 (4th level spells) CL 9

A double eldritch build can't be optimal per se, but with Sublime Chord and Ur Priest that have better chances.
#7
cole_caecus
May 20, 2010 14:52:41 Sorry, i meant to say that you have to have Lesser Invocations, not least...

I want to be mainly warlock with the others as bonus types of things. Like a Warlock with dark invocations and level 9 cleric spells, plus a few other spells courtesy of sorc. And you only need level 1 Sorc if you take Precocious Apprentice, which gives you a level 2 spell.
#8
Maat_Mons
May 20, 2010 17:19:12
Sorry, i meant to say that you have to have Lesser Invocations, not least...

No, least is what you need.
#9
cole_caecus
May 21, 2010 0:43:15 Whoops... looks like i lied again, lol.

Ok, so for level 20 ECL what im thinking is this...

1Sorc/ 4Warlock/ 2 UrPriest/ 8Eldritch Disciple/ 5 Eldritch Thuerge

Then i would have, at level 20

Warlock CL 17 (10 Invocations, 1 Dark Invocation)
Ur Priest CL 10 (9th Level Cleric Spells)
Sorc CL 6 (3rd Level Sorc Spells)

I would need a high Wisdom and a high Charisma, And a Descent Dex.

Would that all work out?
#10
max_kravenoff
May 21, 2010 1:20:07
Whoops... looks like i lied again, lol.

Ok, so for level 20 ECL what im thinking is this...

1Sorc/ 4Warlock/ 2 UrPriest/ 8Eldritch Disciple/ 5 Eldritch Thuerge

Then i would have, at level 20

Warlock CL 17 (10 Invocations, 1 Dark Invocation)
Ur Priest CL 10 (9th Level Cleric Spells)
Sorc CL 6 (3rd Level Sorc Spells)

I would need a high Wisdom and a high Charisma, And a Descent Dex.

Would that all work out?

You need, base Fort +3, to qually to Ur Priest, with Warlock 4/ Sorcerer 1, you only get +1, you need a class with good fort to get that in the minimum time possible.
#11
cole_caecus
May 21, 2010 1:25:46 Yeah, was just noticing that. I might take a level dip into monk or fighter...

But i just noticed something else as well. For Ur Priest, I have to be evil, and the main thing i wanted to do for being Eldritch Disciple is use the healing blast ability, which i must be non evil for -.-"
#12
max_kravenoff
May 21, 2010 2:38:00 Told you, you must be evil. Well Healing in combat it's not optimal, search for the "healing handbook" or something like that, or just check the Cleric Handbook, for some ideas to keep your party or yourself healty without spending your actions on it.
#13
TifRhal
May 21, 2010 3:28:03 I would look at taking 1 level of fighter and take the Dragon magazine 355 page 91 the armored savant. It cuts all arcane failure in half plus other bonus.
#14
tr0llman
May 21, 2010 8:36:19 Warlock 1 + (lesser) Chasuble of Fell Power satisfies the 2d6 EB requirement of Eldritch Theurge. And it's explicitly legal.
#15
gorfnad_the_shiznit
May 22, 2010 3:49:04 You could just ignore the sorc and go for Warlock 4/ Binder 1/ Ur-Priest 2/ Eldritch Disciple 10/ Hellfire Warlock 3. Hellfire + Naberius is very nice.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 cole_caecus May 18, 2010 16:32:47	Ok, so ive been thinking of making a character, level 10, for a while now. no particular game, just wanted to build it. So this is what im working on right now. Level1 Sorc(PA)/3Cleric/3Warlock/ 1 Eldritch Dicsiple, 2 Eldritch Thurge. Now, i know i lose some levels from All my casting, but i am doin this for fun, but my main question is this. Is there anything that would let me in to it sooner? i use Precocious Apprentice to get into it earlier on the Sorc side, but i dont know anything for the warlock or the cleric. I want to keep warlock and Sorc, but if you have a better suggestion for cleric, or a way to get into these classes earlier, i would welcome the help.
#2 cole_caecus May 19, 2010 17:51:24	Bump, lol. come on, almost 40 views and no ideas?
#3 max_kravenoff May 19, 2010 21:33:56	Oh damn forum, just eat my post. Ur-Priest is your friend if you want QUICK cleric progression.
#4 cole_caecus May 19, 2010 23:22:23	Mostly, i need a way to get Least invocations quicker. I just looked, it ends up i dont get them till level 6, and i need them to enter both the eldritch prcs.
#5 cole_caecus May 19, 2010 23:36:58	Ok, so question. If i make it like this Sorc1/War6/UrPriest2/ Eldritch Disciple 7/ Eldritch Thuerge 4 (ECL 20) I would have (If i calculated correct) Level 17 Caster in Warlock (10 Invocations, up to Dark Invocations) Level 9 Caster in Ur-Priest (Up to level 9 Cleric Spells) Level 5 Caster in Sorc (Up to Level 2 Sorc Spells) Is that correct?
#6 max_kravenoff May 20, 2010 0:33:58	Mostly, i need a way to get Least invocations quicker. I just looked, it ends up i dont get them till level 6, and i need them to enter both the eldritch prcs. No, first you only need Warlock 1, since Warlock 1 gives you: 1 least invocation and Eldritch Blast of 1d6. Let me try... Sorc 4 War 1 Anything with good Fort def 1 Ur-Priest 2 Eldritch Disciple 7 Eldritch Theurge 4 One more Eldritch level not counted Warlock Invocations Level: 12 (2 Greater Invocations) CL 12 Ur-Priest Spellcaster Level: 9 (9th level spells) CL 19 Sorcerer Spellcaster Level: 8 (4th level spells) CL 8 You can play with Bard/Sublime Chord, Ur Priest & Warlock to play the Theurges, may be you can get even greater Caster Level and Spell Levels. Edit to add a new build: Sorc 4/ War 1/ Monk1/ Ur-Priest 2/ Eldritch Disciple 7/Eldritch Theurge 5 Ascetic Mage in Complete Adventurer make your AC bonus from monk to be tied to your CHA. It's not very optimal, but solves the problem of save to qually to Ur-Priest. Warlock Invocations Level: 13 (3 Greater Invocations) CL 13 Ur-Priest Spellcaster Level: 9 (9th level spells) CL 20 Sorcerer Spellcaster Level: 9 (4th level spells) CL 9 A double eldritch build can't be optimal per se*, but with Sublime Chord and Ur Priest that have better chances.
#7 cole_caecus May 20, 2010 14:52:41	Sorry, i meant to say that you have to have Lesser Invocations, not least... I want to be mainly warlock with the others as bonus types of things. Like a Warlock with dark invocations and level 9 cleric spells, plus a few other spells courtesy of sorc. And you only need level 1 Sorc if you take Precocious Apprentice, which gives you a level 2 spell.
#8 Maat_Mons May 20, 2010 17:19:12	Sorry, i meant to say that you have to have Lesser Invocations, not least... No, least is what you need.
#9 cole_caecus May 21, 2010 0:43:15	Whoops... looks like i lied again, lol. Ok, so for level 20 ECL what im thinking is this... 1Sorc/ 4Warlock/ 2 UrPriest/ 8Eldritch Disciple/ 5 Eldritch Thuerge Then i would have, at level 20 Warlock CL 17 (10 Invocations, 1 Dark Invocation) Ur Priest CL 10 (9th Level Cleric Spells) Sorc CL 6 (3rd Level Sorc Spells) I would need a high Wisdom and a high Charisma, And a Descent Dex. Would that all work out?
#10 max_kravenoff May 21, 2010 1:20:07	Whoops... looks like i lied again, lol. Ok, so for level 20 ECL what im thinking is this... 1Sorc/ 4Warlock/ 2 UrPriest/ 8Eldritch Disciple/ 5 Eldritch Thuerge Then i would have, at level 20 Warlock CL 17 (10 Invocations, 1 Dark Invocation) Ur Priest CL 10 (9th Level Cleric Spells) Sorc CL 6 (3rd Level Sorc Spells) I would need a high Wisdom and a high Charisma, And a Descent Dex. Would that all work out? You need, base Fort +3, to qually to Ur Priest, with Warlock 4/ Sorcerer 1, you only get +1, you need a class with good fort to get that in the minimum time possible.
#11 cole_caecus May 21, 2010 1:25:46	Yeah, was just noticing that. I might take a level dip into monk or fighter... But i just noticed something else as well. For Ur Priest, I have to be evil, and the main thing i wanted to do for being Eldritch Disciple is use the healing blast ability, which i must be non evil for -.-"
#12 max_kravenoff May 21, 2010 2:38:00	Told you, you must be evil. Well Healing in combat it's not optimal, search for the "healing handbook" or something like that, or just check the Cleric Handbook, for some ideas to keep your party or yourself healty without spending your actions on it.
#13 TifRhal May 21, 2010 3:28:03	I would look at taking 1 level of fighter and take the Dragon magazine 355 page 91 the armored savant. It cuts all arcane failure in half plus other bonus.
#14 tr0llman May 21, 2010 8:36:19	Warlock 1 + (lesser) Chasuble of Fell Power satisfies the 2d6 EB requirement of Eldritch Theurge. And it's explicitly legal.
#15 gorfnad_the_shiznit May 22, 2010 3:49:04	You could just ignore the sorc and go for Warlock 4/ Binder 1/ Ur-Priest 2/ Eldritch Disciple 10/ Hellfire Warlock 3. Hellfire + Naberius is very nice.