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#1 Cheiron May 14, 2011 21:35:24	Hey everybody, back again, yes so soon.  Just wondering if anybody would be willing to take me up on the task of making a level 21 Gestalt Character right now I wanna go with a half copper dragon troll, after that its really up to you. want to have an amazing great melee character so i was thinking maybe fighter/swordsage or some such. I want a full amazing optimization,  feats, stats items all the goodies
#2 Krusk May 15, 2011 11:36:28	Druid 21//race and whatevs. Wildshape beast combats. Maybe give a little more guidance on stuff? "I like the idea of a reach weapon" "These books are allowed" "Stats like so" "DM says this house rule" "Ubercharge please" "Standard WBL". Heck even tell us how you are doing LA. All on one side. Split between sides. All on both sides? The more info you give the more help you get.
#3 Cheiron May 15, 2011 13:02:35	I am going to take my LA all on one side so it'll be 21blah/5troll/3half dragon/13blah. I don't want a reach weapon, I was thinking maybe a halberd, or great sword for the weapon  my stats are as followed BEFORE racial modifiers STR 12 DEX 14 CON 18 INT 14 WIS 14 CHA 12       Like i stated i want to be a melee master, not one of those 'lookit me spike chain trip AoO' guys, but a hey look at this weapon to your face! or maybe even just laod up on making my natural attacks what i do. I have 1 million gold to start and all 3.5 materical (official that is) is allowed no questions asked, other material i have to make an arguemtn for on a case by case basis. the game setting is  the wall that kept teh good kingdom prected form the evils the drove out millenia before has finally fallen. I want to be a very scary, you know the kind of monster that people tell sotries of and hope they never have to see. I am a troll, so although my stats are pretty good, im still a toll. so I want to be more up in your face deadly, tha  all combat tricky, with random trips and  dozens of AoO each round. I basically want to be a juggernaut, nigh unstoppable.
#4 Cheiron May 15, 2011 20:29:17	actually since its epic, I was wondering.. should I take the paragon template as well since I'll only have 5 base Hit die it will only give me a LA of +6 so there for i can be 21 blah/5troll/3halfdragon/6 paragon/7blah the crazy amount of goodies I get form it I think makes up for   the 6 actual levels I would be getting and I do get 12X21 bonus HP this way I can use my natural weapons and not really have to have much armor.
#5 Krusk May 15, 2011 20:39:36	Cleric 21 (Prestige as you want so long as it gives full casting it literally doesn't matter)//Troll-Dragon 8/Lion barb 1/Fighter 2/CG Paladin Variat 2/X 8. Can you prestige class on both sides? Can you swap stat placement? Wis>Str>Con>Cha>Int>Dex. Grab a magic greatsword. +1 flame/frost/whatever. Hit it with greater magic weapon to make it +5. Do the same for your armor and the armor equivilent spell. Power attack, leap attack, shock trooper. DMM, Extend, Persist. Don't bother actually raging, because you can't cast if you do. Even better would be to trade it for an alternative class feature. If you happen to already be fully buffed, go ahead and rage.
#6 tshern May 18, 2011 17:46:54	If you truly want to create a melee monster for epic, you need magic. Plenty of it, too. While the template stacking may seem like an intriguing idea, it is hardly the best way to go. I'll lay down some ideas now, take them for what you wish and ask questions if you have any. For build perhaps: Transmuter 5/Incantatrix 10/Fullcasting class X 5//Factotum 8/Warblade 2/Swordsage 2/Something else. To top that off, I would probably go for a mixture of Fighter and/or Feat Rogue. Couple of extra feats for beating down those foes is quite good. Use Incantatrix to persist Shapechange, Divine power, Wraithstrike and Bite of the Werebear for starters and then proceed to kick some butt. Divine power can be acquired with Arcane Disciple. Defenses are excellent and you have full casting to "fall back" to. Factotums extra actions can be useful as well. Enjoy.
#7 tshern May 18, 2011 18:04:12	Just for the heck of it, I have another idea as well. Charisma heavy, but could just be workable if you wish something easier than a Wizard. Unseelie Fey Human: Factotum 1/Paladin of Tyranny 2/Hexblade 4/Iajitsu Master 5/Fighter 2/Feat Rogue 2/Monk 1/Warblade 2/Cloistered Cleric//Sorcerer 10/Incantatrix 10 What this idea nets you: -Charisma to saves, twice against spells and spell-like abilities. -Four Fighter bonus feats you can use to boost your melee abilities. -Rebuke undead to fuel something like Travel devotion. Can be substituted for something else. -A few Warblade maneuvers. Can be be used to boost saves or whatever. There are a bunch of options there. -Monk with Ascetic monk for charisma to AC. -Full Sorcerer casting with all the Incantatrix goodness. -Hexblade's Dark companion to give penalties to enemies' saves. -Unseelie fey to give all enemies within 5ft a penalty to saves equal to your charisma modifier. -Factotum to get Iajitsu focus that can be further abused with Iajitsu Master's Strike from the Void. -Factotum to grab a bunch of skills to fuel Knowledge devotion. -Cloistered Cleric gives a load of options. Rebuke undead is obvious, Knowledge devotion is even better and you could grab Time domain to get Improved initiative (prerequisite for Iajitsu Master). There is a negative side to this. You need Sanctum spell to qualify for Incantatrix in time to cram in both that and Iajitsu Master.
#8 awaken_D_M_golem May 22, 2011 13:50:45	You could be "boring", quick and dirty, and just go: CoDzilla 21 // PsyWar 21 Only feats you really need: DMM Something for Cleric or Natural Spell for Druid, Big Guy Is With Me on all the PsyWar side, except with one Metamorphic Transfer. 21) Epic Spells ... with sufficient skill ranks, you'll get 4. That's "enough" by itself. And the PsyWar gets a bonus Epic feat at 21. Not other class does this. 21) fighter-ish goodies