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Feats Which Count as Other Feats

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#1
The_Fred
Oct 04, 2012 10:35:15 Is there a list anywhere of feats which count as others for the purposes of meeting prereqs?

So far we have:
Combat Reflexes - Evasive Reflexes [ToB]
Dodge - Desert Wind Dodge [ToB], Expeditious Dodge [RotW], Mightnight Dodge [MoI]
Endurance: Kobold Endurance [RotD?]
Power Attack - Stone Power [ToB]
Psionic Meditation [XPH] - Instant Clarity [ToB]
Toughness - Azure Toughness [MoI]
Weapon Finesse - Shadow Blade [ToB]

And maybe one or two more. I always think that the Cerulean feats from MoI count as Iron Will/Great Fort/Lightning Ref but alas they don't. Just wondering if there were any more, it'd often be handy to know.

EDIT: Updated the list. Seems interesting to note how many of these come from ToB, or MoI. Signifies something of a shift in philosophy, I think.
#2
frost.fire
Oct 04, 2012 11:27:03 Would improved toughness count as toughness, or wouldn't it because it is up to dm fiat
#3
The_Fred
Oct 04, 2012 11:27:49 It wouldn't (though many DMs would allow it to, I think) since it doesn't actually say so.
#4
radicaltaoist
Oct 04, 2012 11:36:53 Expeditious Dodge from Races of the Wild can also be used in place of Dodge.
#5
The_Fred
Oct 05, 2012 17:09:08 I'd heard that one too but I couldn't remember where it came from.
#6
Slagger_the_Chuul
Oct 05, 2012 23:10:07 I've formalized this in my own campaign by designating the existing feats of this type as "substitute" feats (and adding some, including Improved Toughness and a few of my homebrew feats). The official feat substitutions of which I'm aware are:

Combat Reflexes: Evasive Reflexes
Dodge: Desert Wind Dodge, Expeditious Dodge, Midnight Dodge
Endurance: Kobold Endurance
Power Attack: Stone Power
Psionic Meditation: Instant Clarity
Toughness: Azure Toughness
Weapon Finesse: Shadow Blade
#7
The_Fred
Oct 06, 2012 12:00:41 Great.

If there isn't a community list already, I might make this in to one, actually.
#8
Maat_Mons
Oct 06, 2012 15:17:06 This is the best I can turn up.
#9
The_Fred
Oct 06, 2012 15:49:59 Ah, that's great! Looks like there aren't that many of them after all, though.
#10
awaken_D_M_golem
Oct 09, 2012 17:19:40 Oriental Adventures ... has a small pile
of feats and class features that "count as".

I haven't had access to Dr#318 for a long time,
so idk wtf the OA updates have changed.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 The_Fred Oct 04, 2012 10:35:15	Is there a list anywhere of feats which count as others for the purposes of meeting prereqs? So far we have: Combat Reflexes - Evasive Reflexes [ToB] Dodge - Desert Wind Dodge [ToB], Expeditious Dodge [RotW], Mightnight Dodge [MoI] Endurance: Kobold Endurance [RotD?] Power Attack - Stone Power [ToB] Psionic Meditation [XPH] - Instant Clarity [ToB] Toughness - Azure Toughness [MoI] Weapon Finesse - Shadow Blade [ToB] And maybe one or two more. I always think that the Cerulean feats from MoI count as Iron Will/Great Fort/Lightning Ref but alas they don't. Just wondering if there were any more, it'd often be handy to know. EDIT: Updated the list. Seems interesting to note how many of these come from ToB, or MoI. Signifies something of a shift in philosophy, I think.
#2 frost.fire Oct 04, 2012 11:27:03	Would improved toughness count as toughness, or wouldn't it because it is up to dm fiat
#3 The_Fred Oct 04, 2012 11:27:49	It wouldn't (though many DMs would allow it to, I think) since it doesn't actually say so.
#4 radicaltaoist Oct 04, 2012 11:36:53	Expeditious Dodge from Races of the Wild can also be used in place of Dodge.
#5 The_Fred Oct 05, 2012 17:09:08	I'd heard that one too but I couldn't remember where it came from.
#6 Slagger_the_Chuul Oct 05, 2012 23:10:07	I've formalized this in my own campaign by designating the existing feats of this type as "substitute" feats (and adding some, including Improved Toughness and a few of my homebrew feats). The official feat substitutions of which I'm aware are: Combat Reflexes: Evasive Reflexes Dodge: Desert Wind Dodge, Expeditious Dodge, Midnight Dodge Endurance: Kobold Endurance Power Attack: Stone Power Psionic Meditation: Instant Clarity Toughness: Azure Toughness Weapon Finesse: Shadow Blade
#7 The_Fred Oct 06, 2012 12:00:41	Great. If there isn't a community list already, I might make this in to one, actually.
#8 Maat_Mons Oct 06, 2012 15:17:06	This is the best I can turn up.
#9 The_Fred Oct 06, 2012 15:49:59	Ah, that's great! Looks like there aren't that many of them after all, though.
#10 awaken_D_M_golem Oct 09, 2012 17:19:40	Oriental Adventures ... has a small pile of feats and class features that "count as". I haven't had access to Dr#318 for a long time, so idk wtf the OA updates have changed.