Fighter/Barb/Warforged Juggernaut: any good?

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#1

arcane_dup

Jul 09, 2008 21:47:56
I'm planning on making a Fighter4/Lion Totem Barbarian1/Warforged Juggernaut 5/??? 10 for an upcoming campaign. I'm fairly committed to the first 10 levels (I'm going to keep the WFJ levels regardless) but I don't know what to do with the final 10. I don't want to be a gish; I want to stay pure melee fighter, preferably good at charging/bull rushing. What are good choices for the final 10? We don't play with multiclassing XP penalty, so feel free to mix-n-match all you want. I also have all books allowed and access to all of them.

Go crazy! I want Pounce, Combat Brute, and that's about all of my essentials. I'm going to be wielding a two-handed weapon of some sort; probably a Greataxe. When I have enough money, I'll be getting Life-Drinker (DM ruled that I'm immune to level damage/drain when I get ability damage/drain immunity) unless there are better options. I also don't know what I'll be enchanting my armor, armor spikes, and weapon with until then.
#2

reis

Jul 09, 2008 22:29:09
get leap attack and/or shock trooper
#3

arcane_dup

Jul 09, 2008 22:31:03
Why? What do they do? Or what books are they in?
#4

reis

Jul 09, 2008 23:12:33
leap attack is in complete adventurer, it lets you double (or triple) the extra damage from power attack when you make a successful jump check combined with a charge attack, but your jump must cover at least 10 feet horizontally and this is probably kinda tough with adamantine body until mid or high level without magical aid

shock trooper is in complete warrior, the heedless charge ability it gives you allows you to sacrifice points from your AC instead of attack bonus with power attack when executing a charge
#5

arcane_dup

Jul 10, 2008 2:13:01
I really like Shock Trooper, but I'll save Leap Attack for a higher-level feat. Boots of Jumping are cheap enough, or whatever they're called.

I think I'll take 10 levels of Warblade for ECL 11-20. That'll give me bonuses and the ability to always flank for the rogue.

With Combat Brute, I can Power Attack for triple the extra damage (two-handed weapon of some sort) the turn after I charge. That's pretty vicious combined with Shock Trooper - power attack for 7 and add 21 damage on my charge and the turn after my charge. I remember a feat where you can knock opponents prone at the end of a charge - am I just hallucinating, or is this somewhere?

I'm definitely putting Acidic on my spikes, but I don't know what else. Will anything else help, other than straight plusses?
#6

reis

Jul 10, 2008 3:44:10
frenzied berzerker (complete warrior) is pretty good or this type of build too
#7

arcane_dup

Jul 10, 2008 10:26:57
FB doesn't look too good for me. However, I'm extremely impressed by Supreme Power Attack - but how would that stack with Combat Brute, Shock Trooper and Leap Attack?
#8

reis

Jul 10, 2008 12:25:11
with a 2h weapon you would add 4 times the bonus you subtract from AC with shock trooper, then multiply it as normal for combat brute and leap attack. Remember that as always when multiplying in d&d, the result of doubling something twice is triple the orignal.

if you can somehow get Iron Heart Surge with your levels of warblade, you can use it to end a frenzy with no save required.
#9

arcane_dup

Jul 10, 2008 12:45:31
Wait, so if I (say) subtracted 3 from AC, I'd get a +36 damage? Jesus. That's amazing.

I can just barely get 5 levels of Warblade. It'll leave me with 3 feats, just enough to get into WFJ. Unfortunately, I won't have enough feats to get into Frenzied Berserker - I'll have my Level 6 and 9 feats, but I need one more (Destructive Rage, Intimidating Rage, and Cleave are what I need). I don't think it's possible. Fighter4/Barb1/WFJ5/Warblade10 seems to be the right way to go...however, if I'm not too worried about pulling myself out of Frenzy, I can qualify for FB with one feat spare using my previous progression. Level 1, 3, 6, 9 feats + 3 bonus Fighter feats is 7; I need 6 altogether. That wouldn't leave me with any of the feats I've been wanting, though.

Is there some way that I can be a Frenzied Berserker 10 and have Combat Brute and Shock Trooper? They're both pretty vital to my tactics.
#10

dawnmor

Jul 10, 2008 14:06:34
I thought about that idea for quite some time.

So I came to this..........

Fighter 4, Barbarian (Lion totem) 1, WJ 5, FB 10.

Grab a item that enlarges you, from Medium to I believe either Gargantuan or Collosal not sure which. Get yourself a greatsword, Ring of Featherfall, and TONS! of HP somehow, Prefferably through a high Con.

Here is where the fun REALLY! begins.

Somehow get your druid to turn into a Large bird, you ride him up to around 2k feet into the air. You jump off him, Featherfall down to around 100 ft, Enlarge yourself , Roll into a ball by the time your at 100ft, then turn off your ring .

So your now a Cannon ball effecting everyone in a 15 by 15 ft square not including callateral damage from shrapnel or whatever thats on the ground, Weapons will fly everywhere . BOOM! you recieve 10d6 damage, they receive damage for a gargantuan cannon ball. On top of this plan, you go into a frenzy .

Would make for a interesting Siege technique I think, Crash threw a Wall to send stone everywhere, they receive extra damage from the stone flying, you receive whatever damage, .

If you wish, you can go and take Crusader 4, Barb 1, WJ 5, FB 10.

You get maneuvers and youll beable to heal yourself :P, So I wander if being the catalyst for stone your techniquely hitting them, will Martial spirit *Stance* still work :P. Heh.

Would be funny if it did. Send 20 bricks everywhere, all 20 hit, WOOT!! 40 HP back, SUCKERS! :P.

OK im done ranting and raving.
#11

arcane_dup

Jul 10, 2008 15:01:30
We don't have a druid, unfortunately. I'd like that a LOT - very entertaining and effective. However, our druid skipped out on the campaign. We might be getting a new character in the next week or so; if so, I'll ask him to play a druid.

So what sort of item can enlarge me that big?
#12

dawnmor

Jul 10, 2008 20:27:29
Or you can get a item with Fly on it, 60ft fly speed? umm YEAH! LOL, You can get the same with enlarge, get it on an item, but you can only grow by 2 steps.

So you go from Medium to Large to Gargantuan I believe.
#13

arcane_dup

Jul 10, 2008 20:37:25
It shouldn't be too hard to persuade my DM to give me those Wings (the Warforged Component) that give a fly speed of 120/perfect. They also give buffet attacks. He's given Items of Legacy to the rest of the party, and said he'd give me something equivalent. I think that's a fair exchange.
#14

dawnmor

Jul 11, 2008 20:01:39
Then go for it . Youll be a Ironman sorta deal if you could get those.
#15

dawnmor

Jul 11, 2008 20:13:09
Not to mention you will look HAWT!.