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#1 hand_of_vecna Feb 13, 2009 17:29:02	Me and two friends are planning on starting a rotating gm gestalt game, possibly with each of us focusing on advancing plots involving one of the other players backstory. Characters will be chaotic f the world types or evil the other characters are a barbarian/rouge and a party booster/support/ranged damagedealer. During the initial discussion I commited to bringing healing to the table but was open otherwise. All WotC material is open our one rule is one side of the gestalt equation must be fixed ie something 1-20 in this case it will be easy as I'll be taking illithid 1-15 as per savage species except I've modified it to be the psionic illithid from the Expanded Psionics handbook so that 9 lvls of psion manifesting, 9d8 hp, progression in tentacle attacks and +2 to a stat almost every lvl. Starting lvl is 5 with 10k gold just over the 9k in the dmg. My character will have eaten the brain of and taken the identity of a cleric of hextor who is the twin brother of a prince who is a cleric of heronious. So things I need at character creation... 1) human appearance that lasts all day either from a magic item or dmm though the feat investment seems excessive when cleric casting will be secondary to the character. 2) healing ability obviously have it with cleric lvls though if anyone suggests a non-cleric use of my other side I need alternative healing. 3) has to fake being a cleric of hextor and a human noble so ranks in diplomacy, knowledge(religion) and knowledge (nobility) also I need martial weapon proficiency flail(unoptimal I know) What I hav so far is this my psionic illithid monster proggression (hombrewed see above advances manifesting at lvl1, lvl 15 and even lvls). 1-Illithid 1/Cleric1(Ilsensine) Domain:Knowledge, Domain Magic, feat:martial weapon flail 2-Illithid 2/Cleric2 3-Illithid 3/Cleric3 4-Illithid 4/Cleric4 5-Illithid 5/Cleric5 6-Illithid 6/Cleric6 7-Illithid 7/Cleric7 8-Illithid 8/Illithid Savant1 (assuming I've consumed a cr9 brain) 9-Illithid 9/Illithid Savant2 10-Illithid 10/Illithid Savant3 11-Illithid 11/Illithid Savant4 12-Illithid12/Illithid Savant5 13-Illithid 13/Illithid Savant6 14-Illithid 14/Illithid savant7 15-Illithid 15/Illithid Savant8 16-Psion1?/Illithid Savant9 17-Psion2?/Illithid Savant10 18-Psion3?/Contemplative1? 19-Psion4?/Contemplative2? 20-Psion5?/Contemplative3? Ok, so at this point I'd welcome any advice my primary goal is illithidness, is psion my best move since it will only get me to the equivilant of psion 14 at lvl 20? I doubt contemplative is the best choice since my cleric casting will be pretty gimpy after 10 lvls of savant, though I could have both arcane and divine spells on par with whatever we're facing via the aquire class feature ability. Would this work better? Giving up Cleric lvls to fill in gaps in Psion advancment in Illithid. Is it legal? Illithid advances in Psion equivilant at 1, 15 and even levels. 1-Illithid 1/Cleric1(Ilsensine) Domain:Knowledge, Domain Magic, feat:martial weapon flail 2-Illithid 2/Cleric2 3-Illithid 3/Psion1 4-Illithid 4/Cleric3 5-Illithid 5/Psion2 6-Illithid 6/Cleric4 7-Illithid 7/Psion3 8-Illithid 8/Illithid Savant1 (assuming I've consumed a cr9 brain) At this point I manifest as a Psion of my character lvl am I am manifesting as a psion of my character lvl am I better off putting in psion at 9, 11 and 13 at the cost of delaying illithid savant awsomeness? 9-Illithid 9/Illithid Savant2 10-Illithid 10/Illithid Savant3 11-Illithid 11/Illithid Savant4 12-Illithid12/Illithid Savant5 13-Illithid 13/Illithid Savant6 14-Illithid 14/Illithid savant7 15-Illithid 15/Illithid Savant8 16-Psion4/Illithid Savant9 17-Psion5/Illithid Savant10 18-Psion6/? 19-Psion7/? 20-Psion8/? equivelant Psion 17, fastest possibly savant progression, 3lvls of class x 9-Illithid 9/Psion4 10-Illithid10/Illithid Savant2 11-Illithid 11/Psion5 12-Illithid12/Illithid Savant3 13-Illithid 13/Psion6 14-Illithid 14/Illithid savant4 15-Illithid 15/Illithid Savant5 16-Psion7/Illithid Savant6 17-Psion8/Illithid Savant7 18-Psion9/Illithid Savant8 19-Psion10/Illithid Savant9 20-Psion11/Illithid Savant10 20thlvl Psion equivelant Sorry If I've been a bit long winded but I'm kinda nervous having never submitted anything for advice on the boards before and wanted to show I've put some effort into this myself. Oh, I don't have Lords of madness in front of me right now and I'll probably want some flavorful items from there and that feat that gives you +5 reach if you've got tentacles.
#2 hand_of_vecna Feb 15, 2009 16:03:00	So Bump. I've also made some progress on the build myself. Now I'm planning on taking Palladin of Tyranny at all the lvls the illithid advances Psion increasing hp and BAB and I get Aura of despair which will be great synergy to lower my opponent's saves. So at lvl 5 he'll look something like this. stats were 4d6 drop lowest reroll a single 1. STR 15 (13+2 racial) Dex 11 Con 18 (16+2 racial) INT 22 (17+1inherant +4racial)of course I'll be buying a +int item Wis 17 (15+2 racial) CHA 15 Hp 10+2d10+2d8+20) AC 21 (+8fullplate+2shield+1nat) BA +5 Fort +10 (+4 base+4con+2divine grace) Ref +4 (+2 base +2 divine grace) Will +11 (+6 base +3wis +2divine grace) Speacial Abilities Telepathy 60ft (I keep hearing about a feat called mindsight where and what is it) Aura of Evil detect good at will smite good 1/day (+2hit +3damage) Divine Grace Deadly touch (6 DC13 yep never gonna get used) Aura of Despair Divine Health Mind Blast 1/day(1 creature stun 1d4 rounds DC14) probably won't see much use till it's significantly better, lvl 11 it's 3/day 30ft cone, full illithid ability at 14. Also I have three tentacle natural attacks for 1d4 each maybe I should take multiattack. feats extended reach (I gain improved grab at lvl 8 so I figure this would make a fun counter when being charged.) Boost spelllike ability mindblast Not sure what else I want I haven't played a psion in a while and I don't know how many feats I want to invest in mellee ability. I do know I want quicken spelllike ability mind blast at lvl 18. I think I'm gonna flip con and cha I'll lose 1hp per lvl gain a point in ref and will and raise my mindblast dc to near respectability especially because I have +2 cha coming at lvl 7. items 10k to spend +2 int item (4k) hat of disguise (1.8k) is it fufficient to look human flavorful stuff from lords of madness still not in front of me.