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| #1kairosuyOct 09, 2008 23:39:28 | Hi there, this is my first post so i'm kind of nervous xD I'm playing a massive powerbroken D&D campaing, we are something like sixty players and i may need a little help with this build i have been working on First of all i'll set the rules of the game I can use any classes, prestiges, skills, feats, spells and items that come from these books: - Player’s Handbook 3.5 - Dungeon Master Guide 3.5 - Monster Manual I 3.5 - Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting - Players Guide to Faerûm - Complete Adventurer - Complete Arcane - Complete Champion - Complete Divine - Complete Mage - Complete Scoudrel - Complete Warrior And any class, prestiges, skills, feats, spells, or items that comes form ONLY one of these books: - Player’s Handbook II - Champions of Valor - Champions of Ruin - Sandstorm - Frostburn - Stromwrack - Races of Destiny - Races of Stone - Races of the Dragon - Races of the Wild - Shining South (FR) - Serpent Kingdoms (FR) - Underdark (FR) - Unapproachable East (FR) - City of the Spider Queen (FR) - Silver Marches (FR) The atributes system is the one from the dungeon master guide, with 38 points to buy scores, and the races from the player's handbook or the variants from faerun (races with LA are excluded) The build that i've been playing is a human Hexblade5/Rogue2/Blackguard1, and i want it to have one level of exemplar to boost his use magic device skill The feats that he already has are drathful wrath, power atack, cleave, sunder, and skill focus: use magic device He is probably going to wear heavy armor because recently he recived a Demon armor and it's too cool to waste it, but loosing the evasion form the rogue was a tough decision I need some adviece in the possible prestige, feats and other classes that he may dip in, i was thinking in Divine shield an divine might, to give more uses to his nice carisma score (24 with a cloak) His role in the party is to debuff the enemies, then grab a couple of scroll and make caos I can't remember any other important thing to say, i leave it in the hand of the experts, Thank you very much!!!! |
| #2SenevriOct 10, 2008 2:19:04 | So...human Hexblade5/Rogue2/Blackguard1 No idea what's so 'dratful', but snarking about spelling aside... You have two separate casting classes, and IIRC one is arcane, other divine, and you're losing evasion to wear a cool-looking armor. also you're losing Hexblade's pitiful spellcasting. Your feats are one unknown, prerequisites for Blackguard and skill focus in, admittedly one skill that is worth having skill focus on. ...Not sure I could nerf this more if I tried. I'll need to think about this. |
| #3kairosuyOct 10, 2008 9:14:53 | The thing with the armor, is that i need the ac bonus, otherwise the monsters hit me, and it hurts I realized that in my particular situation (i've only once needed to roll evasion) is preferable to loose evasion for a couple of levels (maybe until y can have divine shield) than to be hit and hit by monster _ The name of the feat is "dreadful wrath" from the PGtF pg 38, whenever you cast a spell, make a full atack, or charge, each enemy within a 20ft area centered on you must make a will save (dc 10+ 1/2 your CL+ your CHA modifier) or be shaken for 1 minute _ Well, i don't care about the spellcating of the hexblade, the blackguard has nice spells, but is not the main focus of the character, maybe i can use some of the buffes of the blackguard, but the idea of the character si to first, bebuff the enemy with the blackguard aura (-2 to saves) then maybe hit or cast a spell, to activate dreadful wrath for another -2 on atacks and saves, and finaly, Hexblade curse for another -2 (greater in a couple of levels) I want it to have 2 more levels of hexblade (so he has greater hex) 2 more of blackguard (to gain turn and channel it to ac or damage) and one level of exeplar for taking 10 in UMD checks The problem is that i don't know what to do next, i have seven free levels, and three feats, i was thinking in divine shield and divine might, but if you are thinking in something better, well, bring it on |
| #4xoraxxOct 10, 2008 9:34:23 | Well, i don't care about the spellcating of the hexblade, the blackguard has nice spells, but is not the main focus of the character, maybe i can use some of the buffes of the blackguard, but the idea of the character si to first, bebuff the enemy with the blackguard aura (-2 to saves) then maybe hit or cast a spell, to activate dreadful wrath for another -2 on atacks and saves, and finaly, Hexblade curse for another -2 (greater in a couple of levels) get the ACF for Hexblades from PHB2, thats another -2 saves and ac for your enemies, for your free levels you might take Ravager from Complete Warrior for another -2 saves aura. |
| #5orenmirOct 10, 2008 13:31:44 | I'm playing a massive powerbroken D&D campaing, What do you mean by "powerbroken"? we are something like sixty players What?!!??! Do you mean: sixty-year-old players? Are you really playing a single D&D campaign with 60 people? |
| #6kairosuyOct 10, 2008 15:40:54 | Yes, we are sixty players, it's a pretty interesting system, we have 4 DM, and 20 scenaries called dungeons, dungeon 1, dungeon 2, etc Every month a new dungeon is created, and all the partyies clan play it, it's a very fun system, it's called "Epic Challenge" Thank you for the tip of the ravenger, i'll take a look at it, we can't use ACF :S the dark companion is very intresting but i can't ![]() |
| #7kairosuyOct 11, 2008 8:44:03 | Ravenger is good, the requeriments are the same (more or less) of the blackguard, i think three levels of ravenger is the best option 01-Hex1 Dreadful wrath|Power Atack 02-Hex2 03-Hex3 Cleave 04-Hex4 05-Hex5 Sunder 06-Rogue 1 07-Rogue 2 08-BlackG1 09-BlackG2 Skill focus: Use Magic Device 10-BlackG3 11-Exemplar 12-Ravenger Divine Shield 13-Ravenger 14-Ravenger 15- Divine Might 16- 17- 18- 19- 20- Only six level missing and one feat, perhaps it can be completed with more levels of blackguard |
| #8SenevriOct 11, 2008 10:45:02 | What do you mean by "powerbroken"? Well, this character's power is definitely broken. KairosUY; 1: WTF is 'ravenger'? if you mean 'Ravager', you're better off EVEN with a fighter, even if there's _some_ fear stacking.for Fear optimization, Barbarians can get pretty Terrifying. *edit* Okay, bonus to saves and all that. Better than Fighter's 5th level, since you already qualify for this. 2: Blackguard pretty much sucks. If you must, go up to BG5. No More. What about Ordained Champion? At this point, it's probably your best bet, even if it requires a sub-optimal feat in Weapon Focus. Or, if Hexblade is a spontaneous caster, Dragon Disciple for at least 4 levels should be good.^H^H^H^H^Hless bad. Divine Shield -- you realize you'll actually have to USE the feat, right? It's like having one average spell you can't change for a few times/day. Divine Might, at least, is Free Action. You'd also better have CHA in the low-30s to consider these feats. |
| #9kairosuyOct 11, 2008 12:53:53 | Sorry, Ravager is the correct name Ordained champion, it's good, but the character worships bane, so it cann't be Dragon disciple is not a bad choice, i'll think about it |