And it seems in a drunken haze i accepted a challenge. I am to try to solo WLD, using 28 point buy, starting ECL 1, and NPC classes only
Am i screwed beyond salvation, or is there help to be gained?
but as adept you get one lvl 1 spell per day!!!11one
It's going to be a tough choice :P
Maby i should just make a Whisper Gnome Expert at level 1, and max my hide... seems like i will be doing that alot.
Hmm... you know, this is probably doable. An Expert might make it, if you could buy magic items to use with UMD. Of course... you can't, right?
So an Adept is probably a better idea. Take Fell Animate and Metamagic School Focus. Cast Sleep on the first things you see that are vulnerable to it, and Coup De Grace them with a cantrip to make a zombie (or more than one).
I don't remember starting gold for NPCs. I doubt you can afford a riding dog, but you could afford a few hunting dogs.
Ah, I think MoS requires Rebuke Undead. I don't know of any NPC classes with that.
Allso, i dot think you can summon in undermountain
WLD is not Undermountain. I don't remember which you can't summon in.
Impossible. I gave my players a free +2 LA, 36 point buy, double feats and full HP every level. They still average 1-3 near deaths every session, and this is a full party. Your DM is going to squish you. You should make a commoner named Hara-Kari.
You could give Pun Pun to a n00b, and he'd still probably get killed somehow. This might have to do with your players more than the module.
Impossible. I gave my players a free +2 LA, 36 point buy, double feats and full HP every level. They still average 1-3 near deaths every session, and this is a full party. Your DM is going to squish you. You should make a commoner named Hara-Kari.
I know this is a tall order to fill, but my definition of "impossible" changed a bit when i found the CO Board some 4-5 years ago.
Maby i should aim for a PrC with its own casting, such as Ur-Priest or Aposte of Peace.
You can't get into Ur-Priest till 6th level at the earliest, and it doesn't really take off in power till alot later (it is almost caught up with sorcerer casting at 10th). Chameleon would actually be better I think, but I don't remember the prereqs.
If i bypass an encounter by sneaking by, i still get a part of the XP right?
In many prefab campaigns they rule 1/2 XP if you manage to cleverly avoid a combat situation... up to the dm though
You could give Pun Pun to a n00b, and he'd still probably get killed somehow. This might have to do with your players more than the module.
That or players adjusting to my no mercy DM style. *shrugs* Being used to DM's that pat you on the head and make everything ok when the going gets tough spoils players.
I know this is a tall order to fill, but my definition of "impossible" changed a bit when i found the CO Board some 4-5 years ago.
Even still, this is a suicide run. To start off with, a player wanting to solo the first half of Map A alone needs darkvision, area effect damage, and the ability to handle traps in order to do so in an efficient manner. Healing, good saves, and a high AC would be secondary to have for a solo person. An expert cannot provide that. How will you handle ability damage and such at level 2, beyond hoping you don't get hit with any?
If only i can survive that long.
Take the infested with Chickens flaw and use the Chickens to trigger traps and feed yourself, perhaps? Could be amusing!
JaronK
If Commoner 1 is your first level, then you can go Commoner 1/Survivor 5. That might be well worth it.
Take the infested with Chickens flaw and use the Chickens to trigger traps and feed yourself, perhaps? Could be amusing!
JaronK
Jackpot!
Added fun... when i show up with a first level commoner, he will **** himself
Lil' Timmy (after an unfortunate fall down a well ) ended up in Undermountain as a lvl 1 commoner and survived to 3rd level commoner. At lvl 3 he was joined by an Expert, Smart Alec
They died horribly shortly thereafter...
With a level cap at six, you'll only be able to get a single level of it.
Hurray for first level spells. Now take on a beholder.
I personally think the main point of E6 is that you're going to get many many feats eventually anyways, so how are you going to use it?
Again, Ur priest isn't going to work.
With a level cap at six, you'll only be able to get a single level of it.
Hurray for first level spells. Now take on a beholder.
I personally think the main point of E6 is that you're going to get many many feats eventually anyways, so how are you going to use it?
E6?
I think ill need to talk with him again while we are both sober....
My $0.02: Try a Dragonborn Jermlaine. Buy a cage made out of some kind of sturdy material, the sturdier the better (stats for cages can be found in the Arms & Equipment Guide). Make sure the bars are too close together to let anything dangerous through (arrows, weapons). Then breathe on anyone who gets too close to your cage.
:heehee Get a way to repeatedly summon an Unseen Servant somehow (to carry the cage), and we might have a winner. :D A wand would work, if you could afford one.
A black etherguant commoner would rock it ;)
Be an aristocrat.
HIRE an adventuring party.
I have not yet tried the World Largest Dungeon.
And it seems in a drunken haze i accepted a challenge. I am to try to solo WLD, using 28 point buy, starting ECL 1, and NPC classes only
Am i screwed beyond salvation, or is there help to be gained?
See, children, this is why you don't game drunk...
On a more serious note, there is a thread somewhere that made a very good chicken thrower out of a Commoner. I would go that way just for giggles.
All good saves (Fort is weakest at +4(?)/Reflex +8/Will +7), 24+ AC, 10 hp... not bad for first level.
ah, Jermlaines... if you take your first level in Monk, you may not need the cage, as things are going to have a hell of a time hitting you (conventionally, anyway, but then again, cages are still bad if you go against spells). Just base, you have +9 AC from your race (+3 Dex, +3 Wis, +3 Tiny... am I missing anything?). Put 10 points into Dex, 6 into Wis, 10 into Con (just in case you do get hit/Fort saves), and 2 into Int. That totals to another +5 AC, and a +2 hp/Fort Saves.
All good saves (Fort is weakest at +4(?)/Reflex +8/Will +7), 24+ AC, 10 hp... not bad for first level.
It is +2 AC for Tiny.
It REQUIRES trapfinding and a lot of skills...
You will get screwed! Just see how creatively you can survive. Uhm, I would cheat and start looking at the WLD book, at least the first dungeon in it! =D
It REQUIRES trapfinding and a lot of skills...
Handle Animal + Bison, trample through the dungeon?
Handle Animal + Bison, trample through the dungeon?
Sadly, not all the traps are the type that, you know, just damage you. There are some that have to be solved with skills, or you DON'T move on... ie, you have to have trapfinding, a good search, and a good disable device, or you CAN NOT leave the room...
What's all this nonsense? You can totally be Pun-Pun and end the whole damn dungeon with a thought. Last I checked, level 1 Expert could totally pull it off.
Yeah, what are we thinking? :heehee