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#1 palanolho Sep 26, 2008 6:07:42	Greetings everyone. Im going to start a new campaign and i would like to play with a diferente race. So i choosed Harssaf (MM3) and Witchblade (MM3) The problem is that they have LA+3 and LA+4. So im trying to lower the LA by twiking some things. So i would like your opinion on my twiks, if you could help.
#2 tytalus Sep 26, 2008 19:48:03	As is, this is not a character optimization question, and doesn't belong on this board. Also note that houserules are usually not being discussed here. In this particular case, you should discuss it with your DM. So im trying to lower the LA by twiking some things. So i would like your opinion on my twiks, if you could help. 4d8 HD Mountrous Humanoid Lowering the racial HD makes the creature much more useful as a PC, not less so (changes in BAB, feats, skills and saves will be more than made up through class levels). It's the opposite of what you want to do. Overall, the resulting creatures are still too good for LA +2 (especially the HARSSAF), if you go by the guidelines in Savage Species.
#3 awaken_D_M_golem Sep 27, 2008 14:03:43	Yeah, Houserule time ... HARSSAF : 6hd + 4la = 10th level start WITCHKNIFE : 9hd + 3la = 12th level start So, you are talking about a custom monster level progression, ala Savage Species or Complete Psionic. That's a lot of work, like a whole pile of balance testing ... are you sure you want to do that ?! A simpler, stronger, more versatile, and better way, would be: Wizard 7 (or 9) and take Polymorph, and have either monster be the form you take. Psion 7 (or 9) and take Metamorph, and Metamorphic Transfer, for added party versatility. Druid w/ Wildshape, and just get close to either, and act like one.
#4 palanolho Sep 28, 2008 10:14:15	hmmm i didnt knew it woild work like that. to makea char with thouse races you dont need to add only the LA ??you have to count with the beggining HD too ?
#5 awaken_D_M_golem Sep 28, 2008 15:02:11	hmmm i didnt knew it woild work like that. to makea char with thouse races you dont need to add only the LA ??you have to count with the beggining HD too ? Yes. LA+2 race, that can start at level 1 with no racial hd, would actually be a (1+2=3) 3rd level character to start. Thri-Kreen are 2hd + La+2 creatures, and start at level 5 ... (2+2)+1. Lucky for them, there is a racial level progression for them in Complete Psionic. Another way, would be to just start your campaign at 12th level.