Help me flesh out my Gestalt Beguiler build

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#1

houkama

Mar 27, 2009 12:49:18
I'm doing a level 18 gestalt solo campaign. I'm able to use all 3.5 sourcebooks, core, Eberron, and Forgotten Realms. I can take prestige classes on both sides of the progression, just not combination prestige classes.

Here's what I have planned so far:

Point buy: 40

STR 14
DEX 8
CON 18 (+2 racial): 20
INT 18 (+4 level bumps): 22
WIS 10 (-2 racial) 8
CHA 8 (-2 racial) 6

Race: Warforged
Alignment: True Neutral

Side 1: Beguiler 5/Shadow adept 1/Rainbow Servant 10*/Beguiler 2
Side 2: Fighter 5/WFJ 1/ Beguiler 1/ WFJ 2/ Beguiler 1/ WFJ1/ Beguiler 2/WFJ 1/ ???

Feat choices:
Level 1: Adamantine Body
Flaws (both of them): Battle Caster
Fighter 1: Power Attack
Fighter 2: Improved Bullrush
Level 3: Shadow Weave magic
Fighter 4: ???
Level 6: Insightful Reflexes
Level 9: Endurance
Level 12: Steadfast Determination
Level 15: ???
Level 18: ???

*My DM ruled that Rainbow servant will use the table for spellcasting progression, but at level 10, I get spontaneous casting to the entire Cleric Spell list (except for domains).

I was thinking about the Prestigous Bard for my last two levels on side two. If it makes more sense to drop some beguiler levels for other Prestige classes, I am not adverse to doing that. I just wanted to make the most out of my advanced learning spells.

Obviously, I'm trying to make sure my character has maximum survivability and versatility. Any suggestions?

And DMM is out since, I can't turn undead, only air elementals.
#2

tshern

Mar 27, 2009 12:59:57
Troubles. First off, you need to offset the arcane spell failure of your adamantine armor. Secondly, if WFJ stands for Warforged Juggernaut, you have to make sure that you do not take two prestige classes at the same time, that is not allowed in gestalt. Secondly, I would seriously adjust those stats. You have a 40 point buy, so I wouldn't keep negative modifiers. And Fighter 5 is a trap. I'd rather use Feat Rogue or anything, but not odd levels of Fighter.
#3

hogarth

Mar 27, 2009 13:17:22
Troubles. First off, you need to offset the arcane spell failure of your adamantine armor. Secondly, if WFJ stands for Warforged Juggernaut, you have to make sure that you do not take two prestige classes at the same time, that is not allowed in gestalt. Secondly, I would seriously adjust those stats. You have a 40 point buy, so I wouldn't keep negative modifiers. And Fighter 5 is a trap. I'd rather use Feat Rogue or anything, but not odd levels of Fighter.

First, he has Battle Caster x2, so that should address the ASF issue.
Second, he said he can take two prestige classes at once in his post.
Finally, if he took a level of Feat Rogue instead of Fighter, he might have an XP penalty.
#4

tshern

Mar 27, 2009 13:26:37
I was not familiar with the feat, if it works, then he is just fine. I just should read things before commenting...

As an additional idea, I would add a level of Mindbender change Insightful reflexes to Mindsight.
#5

houkama

Mar 27, 2009 15:48:46
I would seriously adjust those stats. You have a 40 point buy, so I wouldn't keep negative modifiers.

Most of the time, I would agree, but I really am trying to get the most out of my abilities. Since I am immune to ability damage, I don't think I have much to worry about for having a low Cha. Although after considering the importance of initiative in high level fights I may go for that.

I'm AFB right now, does Mindsight require line of sight to be effective?
#6

tshern

Mar 27, 2009 17:47:04
No, it doesn't.