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#1
borgur
Feb 19, 2009 9:41:45 Hi, our GM decided to restrict us to the "Complete..." series and PHB 1 for an adventure.

Could anyone be so kind and help me look at my idea so far? I'm thinking of making a Dervish with 1 level in sorcerer, with oversized twf and monky grip. (Huge scimitars if enlarged by Enlarge Person). A few levels in fighter to get the twf feats i need, and a level in barbarian for the movement speed, and rage when not dancing...

Does anyone see potential good changes or additions to this? Remember i'm restricted to PHB 1 and the "Complete" books. Any help would be much appreciated
#2
jameswilliamogle
Feb 19, 2009 9:47:25 Does "Complete" include the last ones to come out (Complete Mage, Complete Scoundrel, Complete Champion)?

Starting level? Campaign details? Party makeup?

Monkey Grip and oTWF is kind of bad.
#3
oprick
Feb 19, 2009 10:12:41 can you give us more information on what role you'd like to fill (tank, ranged, blaster, utility, skillmonkey, healer, &c.) and your starting level?

are you allowed the SRD? if so, the variants? complete psionic?

the reserve feats in complete mage are very useful for lower-level casters

the completes contain most ingredients for a karmic strike fighter

there are some interesting possibilities with master thrower

eldritch disciple is strong

CD gives access to divine metamagic

-obviously there are a lot of options, and the complete series is not very limiting. dont forget about the alternate class features (CM, CC), and the racial classes in CPsi
#4
innabinder
Feb 19, 2009 11:14:33 Given the parameters the OP requested, here's a 32PB build:

Human
Lion Totem Barbarian 1/Ranger 2/Scout 3/Stalwart Sorcerer 4/Dervish 10

STR 14 DEX 16 CON 14 INT 13 WIS 8 CHA 13, BOOST STR exclusively

Feats (no particular order, includes bonus feats): Combat Expertise, Dodge, Mobility, Spring Attack, Track, TWF, WF(Scimitar), Extra Rage, Instantaneous Rage, Monkey Grip , Extra Spell, Swift Hunter

Second level spells, Pounce, full Dervish progression. Stalwart Sorcerer and a Toad Familiar mean the HP lost aren't unbearable, given you'll be bouncing around the battlefield like a vulcanized rubber pinball. As JWO said, Monkey Grip is a REALLY SUBOPTIMAL choice. I'd much prefer to toss a better damage amplifier in there.
#5
borgur
Feb 20, 2009 10:01:42 Thanks for replies!

Forgot to say we will start at level 12. I want to deal as much damage as possible. Complete mage, scoundrel and champion is also included, but not psionics. i know nothing of the adventure yet... the other party members haven't decided what to be yet either.
#6
carnivore
Feb 20, 2009 11:21:39 i have an idea... will post it later

:D
#7
metagon
Feb 20, 2009 19:33:11 If only you got Magic Item Compendium. Strongarm Bracers allow you to wield a weapon one size category higher without penalty.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 borgur Feb 19, 2009 9:41:45	Hi, our GM decided to restrict us to the "Complete..." series and PHB 1 for an adventure. Could anyone be so kind and help me look at my idea so far? I'm thinking of making a Dervish with 1 level in sorcerer, with oversized twf and monky grip. (Huge scimitars if enlarged by Enlarge Person). A few levels in fighter to get the twf feats i need, and a level in barbarian for the movement speed, and rage when not dancing... Does anyone see potential good changes or additions to this? Remember i'm restricted to PHB 1 and the "Complete" books. Any help would be much appreciated
#2 jameswilliamogle Feb 19, 2009 9:47:25	Does "Complete" include the last ones to come out (Complete Mage, Complete Scoundrel, Complete Champion)? Starting level? Campaign details? Party makeup? Monkey Grip and oTWF is kind of bad.
#3 oprick Feb 19, 2009 10:12:41	can you give us more information on what role you'd like to fill (tank, ranged, blaster, utility, skillmonkey, healer, &c.) and your starting level? are you allowed the SRD? if so, the variants? complete psionic? the reserve feats in complete mage are very useful for lower-level casters the completes contain most ingredients for a karmic strike fighter there are some interesting possibilities with master thrower eldritch disciple is strong CD gives access to divine metamagic -obviously there are a lot of options, and the complete series is not very limiting. dont forget about the alternate class features (CM, CC), and the racial classes in CPsi
#4 innabinder Feb 19, 2009 11:14:33	Given the parameters the OP requested, here's a 32PB build: Human Lion Totem Barbarian 1/Ranger 2/Scout 3/Stalwart Sorcerer 4/Dervish 10 STR 14 DEX 16 CON 14 INT 13 WIS 8 CHA 13, BOOST STR exclusively Feats (no particular order, includes bonus feats): Combat Expertise, Dodge, Mobility, Spring Attack, Track, TWF, WF(Scimitar), Extra Rage, Instantaneous Rage, Monkey Grip , Extra Spell, Swift Hunter Second level spells, Pounce, full Dervish progression. Stalwart Sorcerer and a Toad Familiar mean the HP lost aren't unbearable, given you'll be bouncing around the battlefield like a vulcanized rubber pinball. As JWO said, Monkey Grip is a REALLY SUBOPTIMAL choice. I'd much prefer to toss a better damage amplifier in there.
#5 borgur Feb 20, 2009 10:01:42	Thanks for replies! Forgot to say we will start at level 12. I want to deal as much damage as possible. Complete mage, scoundrel and champion is also included, but not psionics. i know nothing of the adventure yet... the other party members haven't decided what to be yet either.
#6 carnivore Feb 20, 2009 11:21:39	i have an idea... will post it later :D
#7 metagon Feb 20, 2009 19:33:11	If only you got Magic Item Compendium. Strongarm Bracers allow you to wield a weapon one size category higher without penalty.