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#1 uttercolddeathlord Jun 09, 2010 15:53:51	I'm playing in a planescape-esque campaign, where all campaign settings are included.  I want to play as a Dread Necromancer, but I can't find any good builds for one. Some of the homebrews are as follows; 1.  No Prestiege Class Before 10th Level 2.  No races outside of the players handbook, or that have been approved 3.  You can use races from 4e, as long as you reformat them for 3.5e In case it matters, it's a rather large group, with 7-9 people. Edit: Forgot to mention.  No LA.  At All.
#2 flyn12 Jun 09, 2010 18:04:59	Okay i can't really help you with this but i can send you this community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/758... just trying to help^^.
#3 uttercolddeathlord Jun 09, 2010 19:56:54	Thank you for the suggestion; I reviewed the handbook, but still hope that some one could come and assist me. BTW, ( And this has nothing to do with any of the rest of the thread, just something that I feel like pointing out ) My favorite thing to ever have happened in D&D was when I went into a portal... and it came out 10000 feet in the air... and I was surrounded by 5 great wyrms, of each chromatic type.  Best... encounter... ever.
#4 flyn12 Jun 09, 2010 20:50:40	okay:what about 8 or 9 lvl of dread necro and get maybe one lvl of cleric for the deathbound domain and go pale master after. nice encounter , me the nice thing i do. i just stole my party 's mage spellbook and i sell is own spellbook for twice the normal prince^^
#5 death_isthe_begining Jun 09, 2010 23:12:35	Corpsecrafter, Destruction Retribution, Tomb Tainted Soul, and other corpsecrafter feats will help. Tomb Tainted Soul helps you because you can heal yourself outside combat. Destruction Retribution can heal you or your other undead. Try to get a Hydra for an undead minion.
#6 uttercolddeathlord Jun 10, 2010 7:13:55	Got'cha.  So, I've got the first 10 levels, but what about past then? BTW: This is the build so far... Fey'ri Dread Necromancer 1 - Tomb-Tainted Soul Dread Necromancer 2 - N/A Dread Necromancer 3 - Arcane Disciple ( Fire ) Dread Necromancer 4 - N/A Dread Necromancer 5 - Energy Substitution ( Cold ) Dread Necromancer 6 - N/A Dread Necromancer 7 - Lord of the Uttercold Dread Necromancer 8 - N/A Dread Necromancer 9 - Fell Animation Eyin' them thar Fey'ri with the eye.
#7 uttercolddeathlord Jun 10, 2010 13:32:46	Bump7 - Anyone got some advice on waht PrC I should go for?
#8 phaedrusxy Jun 10, 2010 16:05:21	Can Dread Necros qualify for Mage of the Arcane Order if they take Arcane Preparation? That would grant you access to all PHB wizard spells... The Dread Necro handbook has a list of suggestions as well.
#9 uttercolddeathlord Jun 10, 2010 17:13:14	I could take it... and all I need is to switch around a few feats, or maybe.... Dread Necromancer 1 - Tomb-Tainted Soul Dread Necromancer 2 - N/A Dread Necromancer 3 - Cooperative Spell Dread Necromancer 4 - N/A Dread Necromancer 5 - Energy Substitution ( Cold ) Dread Necromancer 6 - N/A Dread Necromancer 7 - Lord of the Uttercold Dread Necromancer 8 - N/A Dread Necromancer 9  - Arcane Preparation Dread Necromancer 10 - N/A Mage of Arcane Order 1 - Spell Penetration Mage of Arcane Order 2 - N/A Mage of Arcane Order 3 - Greater Spell Penetration, Twin Spell Mage of Arcane Order 4 - N/A Mage of Arcane Order 5 - Corpse Crafter Mage of Arcane Order 6 - N/A Mage of Arcane Order 7 - Destruction Retribution Mage of Arcane Order 8 - N/A Mage of Arcane Order 9 - Maximize Spell, Empower Spell Mage of Arcane Order 10 - N/A So... Critique and tell me how I should improve
#10 Senevri Jun 11, 2010 5:45:21	Should work well enough. Dread necros, as spontaneous, can also qualify for fiend-blooded, but only go there if you need 1-4 specific spells to your spell list. You're _probably_ better off with Arcane Disciple and other spell list adders. Oh, and what did your DM say considering versatile spellcaster? Certain interpretation allows a VS to gain spells of a higher level 2 levels early.
#11 uttercolddeathlord Jun 11, 2010 6:52:10	I haven't been able to get in touch with him; I'm not at home right now, and his phone is out.
#12 uttercolddeathlord Jun 12, 2010 11:21:20	Dread Necromancer 1 - Tomb-Tainted Soul Dread Necromancer 2 - N/A Dread Necromancer 3 - Arcane Disciple ( Fire ) Dread Necromancer 4 - N/A Dread Necromancer 5 - Energy Substitution ( Cold ) Dread Necromancer 6 - N/A Dread Necromancer 7 - Lord of the Uttercold Dread Necromancer 8 - N/A Cleric 1 - Cooperative Spell Cleric 2 - N/A Cleric 3 - Arcane Preparation Mage of Arcane Order 1 - N/A Mage of Arcane Order 2 - Spell Penetration, Twin Spell Mage of Arcane Order 3 - N/A Mage of Arcane Order 4 - Corpse Crafter Lord of the Dead 1 - N/A Lord of the Dead 2 - Destruction Retribution Lord of the Dead 3 - N/A Lord of the Dead 4 - Fell Animate Lord of the Dead 5 - N/A Please read and Review and/or Critique :D
#13 uttercolddeathlord Jun 12, 2010 20:44:48	I think that I might want to switch my focus from Necromancy to Summoning... what do you guys think 'bout that?
#14 urpriest Jun 12, 2010 23:58:30	In a dedicatedly multiplanar world, Necromancer might be cooler than Summoner...a summoner archetype has to rely on limited lists for most casting (except planar bindings etc.) while a necromancer can skeletonize any broken monster with bones. Of course, this depends on what your DM rules about outsiders' corpses disappearing.
#15 uttercolddeathlord Jun 13, 2010 0:36:52	I'm afriad that I believe that you misinterpreted what I said earlier; what I meant was that all of the campaign worlds were in the campaign setting; so a plane shift spell could take you from Toril to Krynn.
#16 uttercolddeathlord Jun 13, 2010 11:45:05	Ok... this is the build ( Before Level 10 ) That I'm looking at...     Conjurer Focused Specialist, Rapid Summoning, Enhanced Summoning ( Evocation, Enchantment, and Necromancy Banned ) Variant 1 - Feats are unchosen thus far Focused Conjurer 2 Focused Conjurer 3 Focused Conjurer 4 Focused Conjurer 5 Focused Conjurer 6 Focused Conjurer 7 Focused Conjurer 8 Focused Conjurer 9 Malconvoker 1 Malconvoker 2 Malconvoker 3 Malconvoker 4 Malconvoker 5 Malconvoker 6 where should I got from here?
#17 urpriest Jun 13, 2010 12:35:05	I'm afriad that I believe that you misinterpreted what I said earlier; what I meant was that all of the campaign worlds were in the campaign setting; so a plane shift spell could take you from Toril to Krynn. Ah sorry. That makes a necromancer better actually...no need to worry about disappearing outsider corpses, you can exploit any monster with bones from any campaign setting.
#18 uttercolddeathlord Jun 13, 2010 12:55:02	Damn all the classes looking epic...   Now I'm stuck between friggin' Totemist and Conjurer and Necromancer... Which should I go with?  I don't care much about power-levels... I just want to know which one sounds the coolest.
#19 sea_cucumber Jun 15, 2010 14:15:24	Well, I know you don't care about power levels, buuuuut malconvoker is pretty damned good. Unless your DM is handing you sweet corpses on a silver platter, definitely better than Dread Necromancer. As for cool...well, I'm not sure how much I can help you with that :P If you do consider going Malconvoker though, I'd recommend shuffling things around so you have more levels of it sooner...there are some really clutch class abilities you definitely want ASAP in that class, esp. at level 5
#20 steelblue Jun 16, 2010 2:48:52	BTW, ( And this has nothing to do with any of the rest of the thread, just something that I feel like pointing out ) My favorite thing to ever have happened in D&D was when I went into a portal... and it came out 10000 feet in the air... and I was surrounded by 5 great wyrms, of each chromatic type.  Best... encounter... ever. Most of CO read this and thought "Sweet encounter! Easy win for the PC though..." ;) That does sound epic. May have to do something similar in one of my games sometime...