Help with a cohort protector: Abjurer2/Master Specialist10/Initiate of the Sevenfold Veil7

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#1

shriekingdrake

Sep 07, 2009 22:11:44

I'm in the process of making a cohort designed to serve as a protector for my character.  In particular, I've been thinking of an Abjurer2/Master Specialist10/Initiate of the Sevenfold Veil7 optimized specifically to protect a Druid and his Fleshraker.  It's a high magic campaign where we tend to fight above our level.  At the moment I'm tinkering with having the druid take the Improved Cohort feat, so the cohort can be at level 19 when the druid is at level 20.  I'll also have the "protector" take the Precocious Apprentice feat, which will enable the protector to enter the Master Specialist PrC a level early.  I'm quite interested in know whether people think this is a good protector route and how I might optimize such a cohort.   All WotC products are acceptable.  I'd be getting the cohort at level 10, though I'd like to think it through level 19.  --ShriekingDrake

#2

Endarire

Sep 07, 2009 23:25:01

How will you qualify for Master Abjurer at level 3?  What will you take at level 20?

#3

alanlichen

Sep 07, 2009 23:30:13
I don't think Improved Cohort feat could make your cohort break the cap on the table. It merely makes your cohort only -1 level but said nothing about the cap. Please correct me if I an wrong.
#4

jgumbyrx

Sep 07, 2009 23:32:44

I don't think Improved Cohort feat could make your cohort break the cap on the table. It merely makes your cohort only -1 level but said nothing about the cap. Please correct me if I an wrong.

good call.
#5

shriekingdrake

Sep 08, 2009 14:50:51

I don't think Improved Cohort feat could make your cohort break the cap on the table. It merely makes your cohort only -1 level but said nothing about the cap. Please correct me if I an wrong.


This is an excellent point.  I didn't review the table.  Indeed, I think the highest level cohort I'll be able to get below epic is 17.  That may be a cause for rethinking this build a bit.  But, that said, I still think I'd run the Master Specialist to the full 10 before taking any of the IotSV.


Thanks for keeping me honest. --ShriekingDrake

#6

shriekingdrake

Sep 08, 2009 14:52:25


How will you qualify for Master Abjurer at level 3?  What will you take at level 20?




I think that the Precocious Apprentice feat will enable the cohort to qualify for Master Abjurer a level early.  


--ShriekingDrake

#7

alanlichen

Sep 08, 2009 20:07:08


How will you qualify for Master Abjurer at level 3?  What will you take at level 20?




I think that the Precocious Apprentice feat will enable the cohort to qualify for Master Abjurer a level early.  


--ShriekingDrake






Actually I remember seeing the sage ruling out this feat in some place. Probably in Ask Wizard session...

www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4ask/2...
Here we go.
#8

phaedrusxy

Sep 08, 2009 20:46:36

It doesn't really matter what the Sage says. All that matters is what his DM says. Tongue out

#9

shriekingdrake

Sep 08, 2009 21:53:05

OK--it's clear I'm not a born optimizer as I can't seem to apply the rules all that well.  For the moment let's assume that Improved Cohort and Precocious Apprentice are useless to me.


Given that I want to use the leadership feat to "employ" a cohort whose job it is to protect a druid and his fleshraker cohort, does Abjurer3/Master Specialist10 make sense as a base?    


If so, what would be best to fill the last four levels? Initiate of the Sevenfold Veil? Incantatrix? Something else?


If not, what would you recommend?  


--Shrieking Drake

#10

alanlichen

Sep 09, 2009 21:00:50
From a moderate view 3 Abjurer 7 MS 7 IoSF?
#11

shriekingdrake

Sep 09, 2009 22:11:33

Thanks.  I'd considered that as well.  Yet, I really am attracted to the Master Abjurer's ability to put an anti-magic field around a third party, and with extraordinary spell aim, to give that third-party a space in which to use magic.  Then again, an IstSV7 is a force to reckon with.  

#12

alanlichen

Sep 10, 2009 0:28:03
Even though AMF now does not block line of effect, which means enemy casters could also bombard spells upon the third party.
#13

shriekingdrake

Sep 10, 2009 22:51:04

Even though AMF now does not block line of effect, which means enemy casters could also bombard spells upon the third party.


Thanks for this important information.  I wasn't aware that the spell had been updated this way.  Could you point me to the errata or whatever the source is? --ShriekingDrake

#14

phaedrusxy

Sep 10, 2009 23:09:45


Even though AMF now does not block line of effect, which means enemy casters could also bombard spells upon the third party.


Thanks for this important information.  I wasn't aware that the spell had been updated this way.  Could you point me to the errata or whatever the source is? --ShriekingDrake



Rules compendium.
#15

shriekingdrake

Jul 16, 2010 13:29:49
Preservation