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#1 northernry Apr 07, 2009 11:50:58	Ok, here is the situation and I need help, ASAP. 3.5 ed. 80 point buy system. I need to play a rogue. Race - Elven maybe human open to advice... dual wielder - dragonsplit...mm4 pg 151 musical instrument/performance..........no interest in being a bard diplomacy Idea...somewhat dark and mysterious, travels from town to town with small party of rogues, treasure seeking bunch. Plays music as way to help gain favor with locals and information, etc. Also deadly with blades, perhaps going toward Dervish/Swashbuckler. Again, I am operating on an 80 pt buy system, and not sure which race I want, elf or human..I do not think subraces are allowed. Please, help me out...DM wants to play tonight at 5 and I work til 3...
#2 pithica Apr 07, 2009 12:13:12	Simple.... Human Rogue 3/Swashbuckler 17 Take daring outlaw feat and full TWF tree, and you will get 7+ attacks/rd all with 10+d6 of sneak attack damage, and every class feature of Swashie 20 except for wounding critical. In addition, you have evasion, and you take the Penetrating Strike ACF so that you do half sneak attack damage while flanking creatures immune to sneak attack. Slightly better (if allowed)... Switch Human for Strongheart halfling. You lose a bit on the weapon damage, but you gain small size advantages. That'd be where I start... Slightly more complicated.... Human (or SHHalf) Rogue 3/Swashie 12/Invisible Blade 5 But that only works if you're using daggers. It is however Int to both damage and AC, 11+d6 of sneak attack, most of the swashie abilities, and all the Invisible blade goodness. You could also go... Rogue 3/Swashie 9/Dread Pirate 3/Invisible Blade 5 If you are allowed to treat 'Rally the Crew' as 'Inspire Courage' (they're the same ability, just named differently), you could also go Dragontouched/Draconic Heritage/Dragonfire Inspiration and potentially add 3 or 4d6 of sonic damage to every attack. But that's probably not worth it.
#3 true_shinken Apr 07, 2009 14:08:50	I'd go with Rogue 4/Swashbuckler 16, drop the splits for a dagger because of organripper and take Martial Study/Stance for Assassin's Stance. dungeonchambers on the organrippers for golemstrike and the like.
#4 dr_rocktopus Apr 07, 2009 14:42:39	Scrubbed, got nothing useful to say when I thought about it...
#5 hijaxx Apr 07, 2009 14:48:49	nice avatar rocktopus. made me lol.
#6 dr_rocktopus Apr 07, 2009 16:43:35	I'll clean up the transparency later.